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Byron Virgo

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Queen & Country
« on: 28 June, 2004, 10:01:08 PM »
So, I thought I might write a little thing about this excellent series that I started reading a couple of weeks ago. It was after I read an interview with Gordon Rennie on the 2000AD Review website, in which he rated the series highly. It was funny, because it was one of those series that I kept on seeing and considering buying, but I never quite got around to getting them. I always seemed to be put off, either because it was a series about British spies written and drawn by Americans, or because it was about the modern world of espionage, a world now almost entirely dominated by the likes of Tom Clancy - the man who is to the world of fictional espionage, what penecillin is to dick rot.

Of course these fears were completely pointless: why shouldn't an American write a perfectly good story about British people (after all, plenty of British writers write American characters)? And Gred Rucka, the writer, can certainly write characters...  

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Re: Queen & Country
« Reply #1 on: 28 June, 2004, 11:15:11 PM »

I've brought a few trades and I'm getting the singles with issue 25. Excellent series with a very British feel. Its also nice to see an espionage series leave politics in the background and just tell a cracking story. Would be a good fit for the Megazine if the art wasn't so miniumalist.

"Of course these fears were completely pointless: why shouldn't an American write a perfectly good story about British people (after all, plenty of British writers write American characters)? "

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Re: Queen & Country
« Reply #2 on: 29 June, 2004, 12:42:34 AM »
No, no, you don't understand. It was because of things like that (and a lot of the drossy art you see in the likes of Vertigo books) that I formed this xenophobic view in the first place.

Still, if I were Irish I'd be much more offended of Mr. Claremont's representation of me (not that I'm rating up all the old Black Knight/Captain Britain/X-Caliber stuff, though).

As for the art in Queen & Country...
I think this is one of it's strong points. At first I thought so called 'cartoony' art would be inappropriate, but it just works so well. Also, the variety of art styles makes it more of a writer's book, which is what is needed when there's such intricate characters on display. It really is in the characters, above all the technical detail, that makes the books so compelling. That said, Rucka can really write a tense scene (as anyone who's read the end of the Afghanistan trip in book 2 can attest).

I would say that, although as previously pointed out, politics is not the driving force for this strip (mirroring the amoral nature of the minders), it is always carefully woven into the background of each story, and it's interesting to observe the changes that occur after September 11th (which, incidentally, is never directly mentioned).

So far, the comic has just reached number 25, I think, and there are five collected tpb's, each between ?5 and ?10, with a mini series, Decalssified, set in Berlin during the Cold War in 1986 also collected, and a sixth volume due for release in Autumn, so there's no reason not to check it out, if you haven't already.

I guarantee that everyone on this board would like it (and that's not something i would say lightly).  

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Re: Queen & Country
« Reply #3 on: 29 June, 2004, 02:07:08 AM »

Oh I love the art; I just don't think it suits the megazine which is a shame as it'd make great reprint material.

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Re: Queen & Country
« Reply #4 on: 29 June, 2004, 02:14:08 AM »
Yeah, I've read the first three trade paperbacks. Bar the occasional lapse in dialogue it's a good read. Lovely art for the third collection.
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Re: Queen & Country
« Reply #5 on: 29 June, 2004, 02:15:24 AM »
Its certainly one of my fave U.S. series of the last 3 or 4 years.
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Re: Queen & Country
« Reply #6 on: 29 June, 2004, 03:54:06 AM »
Couldn't agree more. It's a shame we always dismiss comics from the U.S. when we're really judging them by what's in the mainstream. Queen & Country, for me, comes only behind Walking dead when it comes to current U.S. comics (ftr: Lucifer is 3rd). The art, I feel fits the strip wonderfully. Why wouldn't it fit the Meg? Surely it's not massivly dissimilar to the art for say, Cabbalistics. As long as the srt fits the strip then it's more than welcome ihmo.

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Re: Queen & Country
« Reply #7 on: 29 June, 2004, 03:53:54 PM »
Now go buy Rucka's excellent Atticus Kodiak novels series - FINDER, SMOKER, KEEPER, SHOOTING AT MIDNIGHT and CRITICAL SPACE. He's a marginally better prose author than a comics writer IMO, and I consider him one of the best comics writers currently working, so...

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Re: Queen & Country
« Reply #8 on: 29 June, 2004, 04:20:30 PM »
There's also his novel NO MAN'S LAND, based on the Batman saga of the same name.  I'm readin git at the moment.

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Re: Queen & Country
« Reply #9 on: 29 June, 2004, 04:24:43 PM »
Oooh, is it any cop? His GRENDEL spinoff book, PAST PRIME, is OK...

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Re: Queen & Country
« Reply #10 on: 29 June, 2004, 04:31:09 PM »
Yeah, I'm really enjoying it.  A good example of how to do a novel based on a comic character without looking like you think you're slumming it.

Chris Golden's Hellboy novels, however, are complete dross.  

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Re: Queen & Country
« Reply #11 on: 29 June, 2004, 04:53:16 PM »
I don't see the point in something that was designed for the medium of comics stepping outside that arena (no offence, Gordon). That's not to say there can't be any critical worth to it, or that a good one can't be written, it's just that it doesn't interest me (although I'm not trying to dissparage anyone who does enjoy reading them - or writing them, for that matter).

I think it was Rucka's books that sort of put me off getting Queen & Country. I just don't trust people who use titles like 'Critical Space' - it just smacks too much of 'Tom Clancy's Net Force' for me.

Just finished book five of the collected editions, and I can't believe that I've got to wait until August for the next one! That was a real page turner, as well as being a bit of an emotional upper and downer ( irefuse to use the phrase 'emotional rollercoaster'). Nice art by Carla speed MacNeil as well, which works really well, but only when you least expect it to.

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Re: Queen & Country
« Reply #12 on: 29 June, 2004, 05:46:11 PM »
...Agreed. The ODD JOBS shorts collection isn't brilliant, either, though ISTR a couple of OK stories in it. Sequel's out this year.

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Re: Queen & Country
« Reply #13 on: 29 June, 2004, 05:47:30 PM »
CRITICAL SPACE is a specific reference to bodyguarding - his Atticus Kodiak character is a professional bodyguard. The Kodiak books - even SHOOTING, which deals with a supporting character's heroin addiction - are EXCELLENT.

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Re: Queen & Country
« Reply #14 on: 29 June, 2004, 07:23:52 PM »
I don't know. I know it's only my own pretentions and prejudices holding me back, but I find it very difficult to buy books that have one word titles (which make them sound like a folk record - 'Hitchin', or something) and that feature characters with cool names (Atticus  Kodiak was clearly formed when Mr. Rucka was reading To Kill A Mockingbird and playing with the cap to the roll of film from his camera). I mean, I know he's a good writer - Queen & Country prooved that to me without a shadow of a doubt - but I just find the idea of a book about a bodyguard to be one step beyond for me. I think Kevin Costner has a lot to answer for.