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ECBT2000ad Podcast #15 - The return of the Oirish lad
« on: 26 November, 2009, 02:29:44 PM »


Direct link:
http://media.libsyn.com/media/geeksyndicate/ECBT2000ADep15.mp3

or you can get it through itunes by looking up Geek Syndicate.
Sorry for the delay - swine flu put me on my arse  :(




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Re: ECBT2000ad Podcast #15 - The return of the Oirish lad
« Reply #1 on: 26 November, 2009, 02:47:47 PM »
Yay! I thought we were well overdue for another of these ...

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PS - Expect obligatory factual nitpick very shortly after I finish listening ...
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Re: ECBT2000ad Podcast #15 - The return of the Oirish lad
« Reply #2 on: 26 November, 2009, 02:48:04 PM »
Thanks Richard.  Just downloaded it onto the nano.  That'll keep me grinning as I hoover.  Honestly, it's like "How Clean Is Your House" round here....
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Re: ECBT2000ad Podcast #15 - The return of the Oirish lad
« Reply #3 on: 26 November, 2009, 02:48:47 PM »
Sorry to hear about the Pig Plague, it's a bastard.  Hope you're better now....
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Re: ECBT2000ad Podcast #15 - The return of the Oirish lad
« Reply #4 on: 26 November, 2009, 02:51:26 PM »
This one could be a collectors item... due to illness its beer free!
Will make up for that in the next one.

Oh, and I think we say about suggestions for an old prog or arc to tackle in the next one, but the lovely people at 2000AD sent us a digital copy of the Anderson files, so will probably look at that and make lots of mature comments about her ass.

And thanks Mike. It was rough but over it now. Got me 6 days off work, cant complain.

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Re: ECBT2000ad Podcast #15 - The return of the Oirish lad
« Reply #5 on: 26 November, 2009, 04:57:03 PM »
Ah now I understand the disclaimer you put on the Geek Syndicate Forum about Necrophim!

Ok so it's obvious Flint isn't a fan. Each to their own, etc. I do get the feeling though that Tony Lee is deliberately trying to do something a bit different with a well known kind of setting (God/Devil/Heaven/Hell etc) - hence the mobiles, reference to video, clash of olde worlde dialogue up against modern slang etc. So some of it might jarr, but maybe he is doing it deliberately to make you ask, 'just what is it that hell would be like?'

Following that course, Lee Carter's art then depicts less of a fire and brimstone setting but more of a monotonous 'nothing' sort of shanti town world, set in perpetual semi-gloom. It kind of echoes some Stephen King work where the ultimate hell is worse than it might look on the surface; it sort of... gets worse once you're there. If that makes sense.

Anyhoo, well done guys, still fun to listen to and looking forward to the Anderson review! But if you slag off Arthur Ranson then there's just no hope for you. And you still need to do the Bisley interview  :)

That entire last paragraph rhymed...

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Re: ECBT2000ad Podcast #15 - The return of the Oirish lad
« Reply #6 on: 26 November, 2009, 05:45:46 PM »
I may be mis-remembering this, chaps, but I think the "farm in the country" refers back to Book One, where Gene meets a human who -- it is strongly implied -- puts down Gene's injured friend Old Man Gary, and then tells Gene that Gary has "gone to a farm on the country" ...

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Re: ECBT2000ad Podcast #15 - The return of the Oirish lad
« Reply #7 on: 26 November, 2009, 06:24:33 PM »
Fantastic job lads and it's great to have you back. Looking forward to the next one already. It's great to hear you will be back to your old self next time Blue.

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Re: ECBT2000ad Podcast #15 - The return of the Oirish lad
« Reply #8 on: 26 November, 2009, 08:05:36 PM »
Just down loaded it now. Yay!
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Re: ECBT2000ad Podcast #15 - The return of the Oirish lad
« Reply #9 on: 26 November, 2009, 08:25:19 PM »
Good to have you back and once again a plesent way to pass an hour and half.

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Re: ECBT2000ad Podcast #15 - The return of the Oirish lad
« Reply #10 on: 26 November, 2009, 08:26:58 PM »
Jim's right, I distinctly remember the "farm in the country" cliche arriving in the Kingdom trade, in reference to Gary.  It made me laugh at the time, but hadn't occured to me that Gene would take it literally (but of course he would, that's one of the core ideas of the series and one of the reasons I love it).

Can't wait to read the next volume either.  

And I'm glad Flint's decided to give the early Dante trade(s) a go.  I think I spy a conversion....
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Re: ECBT2000ad Podcast #15 - The return of the Oirish lad
« Reply #11 on: 26 November, 2009, 08:32:56 PM »
I may be mis-remembering this, chaps, but I think the "farm in the country" refers back to Book One, where Gene meets a human who -- it is strongly implied -- puts down Gene's injured friend Old Man Gary, and then tells Gene that Gary has "gone to a farm on the country" ...
Correct. Furthermore, IIRC, in Book 2 Gene asks the farmers in the country if this is where Old Man Gary came.
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Re: ECBT2000ad Podcast #15 - The return of the Oirish lad
« Reply #12 on: 26 November, 2009, 08:54:21 PM »
Correct. Furthermore, IIRC, in Book 2 Gene asks the farmers in the country if this is where Old Man Gary came.

Yes, he did, bless 'im. It's real quality writing from Abnett that -- just when you're tempted to start thinking of Gene as basically another of 2000AD's big, hard blokes -- he drops in these little things to remind you that, no, he's a dog.

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Re: ECBT2000ad Podcast #15 - The return of the Oirish lad
« Reply #13 on: 26 November, 2009, 08:58:31 PM »
I love that way he takes things on trust too - just like a dog.  A master told him Old man Gary's in a farm in the country so he just believes and he's loyal enough to his old friend to want to find him.  Can't get more dog-like than loyal yet capable of ripping your face off.
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Re: ECBT2000ad Podcast #15 - The return of the Oirish lad
« Reply #14 on: 26 November, 2009, 10:25:55 PM »
So hang on...
If a farm in the country is Kingdom speak for death, does that mean the next arc will be the last? Hope not, but would be a cool as hell ending, especially if he head off to his death thinking it was something else.
Bit like the horse in Animal Farm. What was his name? Boxer or something?

And yeah, we were a bit harsh on Necrophim. Like I said, I love how it looks but the world confuses me. For anyone who has read it from the start was it all explained?
They keep telling me its Hell but I dont feel it.
Dumb on my part but if they said it was set in some fictional place I had no preconceptions of I would probably like it a lot more. As it is I keep thinking "How is that Hell?"
For the record though, its no Cradlegrave for me. I do get at least one "that was pretty cool" moment per installment