2000ad suspected IP infringement thread

[SpetsnaZ99]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-Judge-Dredds-Shield-2000AD-Large-Patch-/200578259941?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3638139233468365950

I thought I remembered this as a genuine spin-off from back in the day, but judging by the extensive range of other patches, probably a rip-off (am I bad person cos I might still order one?)

They do more just Dredd patch

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-2000AD-Cool-Comic-Patch-Collection-/200579195473

[vzzbux]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-Judge-Dredds-Shield-2000AD-Large-Patch-/200578259941?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3638139233468365950

I thought I remembered this as a genuine spin-off from back in the day, but judging by the extensive range of other patches, probably a rip-off (am I bad person cos I might still order one?)

I wouldn't bother. They look cheap and tacky. Also don't feed the bootleggers.





V

[COMMANDO FORCES]

That bloke sells a lot of 2000AD original art as well 

[A.Cow]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-2000AD-Cool-Comic-Patch-Collection-/200579195473

This is surely a trademark issue, not a copyright one?

This company has set out benefit from the visual identity of a wide number of brands, not the creative work that went into designing them.

Besides, if you steal a quantity of information from a single source, then that's plagiarism; by contrast, if you steal many small pieces (e.g. phrases rather than sentences) from a wide variety of sources, then that's research.  This business is clearly falling into the latter style of 'stealing', and I don't see it as a big deal.

If these were heavy metal band logos then nobody would be batting an eyelid.

[vzzbux]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-2000AD-Cool-Comic-Patch-Collection-/200579195473

This is surely a trademark issue, not a copyright one?

This company has set out benefit from the visual identity of a wide number of brands, not the creative work that went into designing them.

Besides, if you steal a quantity of information from a single source, then that's plagiarism; by contrast, if you steal many small pieces (e.g. phrases rather than sentences) from a wide variety of sources, then that's research.  This business is clearly falling into the latter style of 'stealing', and I don't see it as a big deal.

If these were heavy metal band logos then nobody would be batting an eyelid.

So if someone was profiteering from something you owned you wouldn't mind?




V

[A.Cow]

So if someone was profiteering from something you owned you wouldn't mind?

So Andy Warhol should pay royalties to Marilyn Monroe, or to Campbell's?  There has to be a sensible limit, which is why so many countries have "fair use" rules.

If it was a character drawing being copied you could argue that this is taking money out of somebody's hands.  It's not.  It's a collection of logos, and any creative copyrights to those logos were signed-over at the point of creation specifically because they are created to be used wholesale for promotion.

Rebellion are only likely to complain about this kind of free advertising if it brings the brand into disrepute.

[The Enigmatic Dr X]

So if someone was profiteering from something you owned you wouldn't mind?

If it was a character drawing being copied you could argue that this is taking money out of somebody's hands.  It's not.  It's a collection of logos, and any creative copyrights to those logos were signed-over at the point of creation specifically because they are created to be used wholesale for promotion.

Rebellion are only likely to complain about this kind of free advertising if it brings the brand into disrepute.

2000ad is a registered trademark. A failure to take steps to enforce a trademark can lead to erosion of the rights associated with it. So, while I appreciate the "free advertising" angle there is also a limit to the extent this can be permitted.

[vzzbux]

@ A.COW.
You didn't answer my question.
So if someone was profiteering from something you owned you wouldn't mind?
But I know your answer will be no from your reaction.
If it was me I would be totally pissed.




V

[vzzbux]

Don't remember seeing these advertised.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-AD-GRAPHIC-T-SHIRT-NEW-MENS-WOMENS-SIZES-COLOURS-AVAILABLE-/280769558628?pt=UK_Men_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item870dfb2385
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-Judge-Dredd-Lawgiver-Lawmaster-Comic-Blaster-Pistol-Gun-1-1-Scale-Kit-/230684723934?pt=US_Comics_Apparel_and_Accessories&hash=item35b5e18ade




V

[Dandontdare]

Don't remember seeing these advertised.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-AD-GRAPHIC-T-SHIRT-NEW-MENS-WOMENS-SIZES-COLOURS-AVAILABLE-/280769558628?pt=UK_Men_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item870dfb2385
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-Judge-Dredd-Lawgiver-Lawmaster-Comic-Blaster-Pistol-Gun-1-1-Scale-Kit-/230684723934?pt=US_Comics_Apparel_and_Accessories&hash=item35b5e18ade


V

That t-shirt photo's fake - it's just a comic image pasted over a photo of a bloke in a white t-shirt. He's basically saying "I haven't made it yet, but I could iron THIS image on to a T-shirt for you. Or you could, y'know do it yourself. Legally". And what the drokk is a 'lawgiver lawmaster comic blaster pistol gun'? *sigh*

[SmallBlueThing]

I'm not sure if we've discussed these- but there are a lot of them about. What's the current thinking? Other than "never in a million years!" obviously.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tharg-The-Mighty-Lambert-Surhone/dp/6135254375/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1330781690&sr=8-8

SBT

[Alski]

I'm not sure if we've discussed these- but there are a lot of them about. What's the current thinking? Other than "never in a million years!" obviously.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tharg-The-Mighty-Lambert-Surhone/dp/6135254375/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1330781690&sr=8-8

SBT

I really don't understand what would be in it. I mean, how many wiki articles have there been on Tharg?

[COMMANDO FORCES]

An excellent read, even if a few facts were incorrect 

[Emperor]

I'm not sure if we've discussed these- but there are a lot of them about. What's the current thinking? Other than "never in a million years!" obviously.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tharg-The-Mighty-Lambert-Surhone/dp/6135254375/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1330781690&sr=8-8

A complete waste of people's time and money, all they do is scoop up Wikipedia pages and run them through print-on-demand services and they grab utterly unrelated pages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDM_Publishing
http://www.chrisrand.com/blog/index.php/2010/02/27/odd-tale-alphascript-publishing-betascript-publishing/

It can make looking for books on obscure topics difficult as they can swamp the results.

The sad thing is that Wikipedia does assemble books which would be cheaper and more coherent:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Books

You can see some comics ones here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_books_on_comics

It'd be easy enough to rummage up one on 2000AD too.

[Judge Jack]

Have these been posted on before? - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mongrol-lara-from-the-pages-of-2000ad-hand-painted-on-canvas?item=320860381075
Some Nemesis designs were listed the other day as well.