Spider-Man (2012) Reboot

[willthemightyW]

Okay, I haven't read many spiderman comics. Well that's a lie, I went through a phase a few years back where I read them, and I will probably start again. Why did he have the non-organic shooters again in ultimate spiderman, was it because he had all the other powers but not the webs?
I don't know much when it comes to spiderman.

[Van Dom]

Oh, just, VOM. That looks like one of those 90s Ben Reilly Scarlet Spider/ Clone Spidey costumes. It's all wrong. What the hell is wrong with the one Steve Ditko designed?

SBT

Remember all that nonsense. My God it went on for about five years. I actually bought all of them, have them at home in a big box. It was actually okay until they (as usual) pussied out and backpedalled on everything they'd done during the story. I think thats what eventually made me quit Marvel. No matter what big, shocking, status quo changing story they did, as soon as the creative team changed a great big reset button got pressed and the whole thing ended up pointless. Not sure if thats still the case at Marvel or not asI havent read a Marvel comic in about 12 years.

[IndigoPrime]

None of the films are remotely close to Gilliam. They lack imagination and wonder; they're so pedestrian (despite a little more visual flair in Azkaban) that it's pretty depressing.

Why did he have the non-organic shooters again in ultimate spiderman, was it because he had all the other powers but not the webs?

Because Bendis decided to be slavish to the original. In Ultimate, the whole webs thing is just irritating. Barely an issue goes by without him shooting so much webbing everywhere that you wonder what's going on, and then with him moaning about how expensive it is to buy and make. Suspension of disbelief goes out the window. The organic thing just makes more sense. He can already stick to walls and he already has 'spider sense', so is it really a leap to have him able to produce webbing? If anything, it makes more sense than "I am a 15-year-old science nerd who can make stuff even the brightest boffins on the planet can't".

[SmallBlueThing]

I think the clone saga went on for most of the nineties actually! perverse old sod that i am, i bought the first two volumes in the collected series, but as yet havent got round to reading them. They're phonebookesque in themselves, and i dont even think we're halfway through yet.
Call me old fashioned, but i like to have the confidence that a story is going somewhere...
SBT

[DrRocka]

Tell you what though, I'd be the first to say that having a Spidey reboot is absolute bo**ocks of the lowest order, but I also though, of the last three films that only the second one was any cop.
This actually looks quite bang on, if it's an Ultimate Spiderman movie. And that was a tremendous comic, up until about issue 107 or so, when they changed the original artist, and it all became a little bit too contentious. But the way the did the clone saga was amazing - really good writing that tied up loads of loose ends from the previous 100 or so issues.
And I'm the same - that original Clone Saga was what made me turn my back on Marvel fr good. That and the fact that no one can die in the Marvel universe. Christ.

[JOE SOAP]

that original Clone Saga was what made me turn my back on Marvel fr good. That and the fact that no one can die in the Marvel universe. Christ.

The original Spidey Clone Saga was 1973.

[Leigh S]

I enjoyed the first two Raimi Spides (never got to see the thrid til it came on TV, and wasnt that impressed).  Then I got the phonebooks of 60s spider-man, and my opinion of the films dropped somewhat.  There really are a lot of tricks they missed from the original series - strangely, "soapy" stuff that would have worked better for character development imo.  Since I see no sign of Betty Brant here, I fear more trick missery is about to occur!

If I was in charge, Id have done a Doc Ock, Betty Brant themed part 1 - maybe stretch that whole Betty Brant/Ned Leeds stuff over 2 films - throw in another early villain like Sandman.

Then a Goblin, Gwen Stacey Spidey at College part 3

Then bring on MJ if youre still going!

[DrRocka]

God, really, 1973??? Wasn't that when they first introduced the idea of a clone Peter?
The nineties guffins that I read was what put me off. As far as I'm concerned, the Green Goblin is still died. He died the issue after Gwen Stacey did.
I did like the Ultimate Spidey, though.

[JOE SOAP]

God, really, 1973??? Wasn't that when they first introduced the idea of a clone Peter?

Uh huh...that's where the Ben Reilly -retrofit- clone came from:

[DrRocka]

Arsom cover!
My spelling, grammar and diction tonight is brought to you tonight courtesy of Peroni lager, for which I can only apologise

[Emp]

Thats what made me move away from Marvel...big spashes like "Even if i live..I die!"

There was an Avengers issue that had the same sort of line... "This issue...EVERYONE dies!!" and they did and it was a great story, just unfortunate that by the next issue i got they were all fine and dandy again.

[Emp]

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My spelling, grammar and diction tonight is brought to you tonight courtesy of Peroni lager, for which I can only apologise
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Thought you were cutting down

[DrRocka]

Not til tomorrow, chum, til then... 'tis the last blowout!
~Although I'm aware, technically, that it IS tomorrow. In which case, today, I mean,
...Ah fuggit, ya know what I mean!
Hey, boy! BOY!! A DRINK FOR ALL MY FRIENDS!!!!

[Colin_YNWA]

The original Spidey Clone Saga was 1973.

Which, if I remember by Marvel Essentials correctly was a fantastic story told in about 5 or 6 issues. Great old school stuff.

[SmallBlueThing]

The original Clone STORY was from 1973 yes, but the CLONE SAGA was a 'nineties' thing, in every sense of the word. :-/
SBT