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Author Topic: 35 years of thrills: 2012 belongs to 2000 AD!  (Read 1494 times)

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Re: 35 years of thrills: 2012 belongs to 2000 AD!
« Reply #45 on: 30 January, 2012, 05:38:48 PM »
I hope they clean them up.  If I want to see a yellowing comic I can look in my box of progs.  I want to see them in their pristine glory.
Question is how well can those older covers be cleaned up if they are scanned from printed comics?

And how much 'pushing' of the colours would they need in order to look as if they were on pure white paper – which is not how they originally appeared. 

Some of those older Marvel reprints on super white paper look terrible to me. Originally coloured brightly to compensate for the absorption of ink and dulling effect of newsprint stock – they look garish on pure white paper. But at least (it seems) they are reprinted using original artwork – bromides, films, possibly original colour separations.

Now I would guess Rebellion doesn't hold all that in its archives. I don't care for images that have to be retouched so heavily that they become a poor version of the original covers. I want to see them how they were intended.

But 2000AD has an excellent design team. I'm sure they will find the best solution for the older covers whether the book is design in house or externally.
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Re: 35 years of thrills: 2012 belongs to 2000 AD!
« Reply #46 on: 30 January, 2012, 05:50:52 PM »
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Question is how well can those older covers be cleaned up if they are scanned from printed comics?

If they're scanned on the very expensive scanner from the original printing films from the archive then they shouldn't need much tinkering.

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Re: 35 years of thrills: 2012 belongs to 2000 AD!
« Reply #47 on: 30 January, 2012, 06:55:28 PM »
The colour scanning does seem to be improving over time, so I'm hopeful. Some of the recent books have relatively little moire, for example, and great colour repro. Compare those to the horror of the first Devlin Waugh book…

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Re: 35 years of thrills: 2012 belongs to 2000 AD!
« Reply #48 on: 30 January, 2012, 06:58:13 PM »
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Question is how well can those older covers be cleaned up if they are scanned from printed comics?
If they're scanned on the very expensive scanner from the original printing films from the archive then they shouldn't need much tinkering.
Weren't tons of these binned – in the Maxwell era, I think? I thought tons of the material in the graphic novels is scanned from printed comics.
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Re: 35 years of thrills: 2012 belongs to 2000 AD!
« Reply #49 on: 07 February, 2012, 02:46:50 AM »
It is an acknowledged fact that once upon a time original art work was binned!!! :o

which must be worth a kings ransom in this age of collectors.
I am not only referring to 2000ad, think of the beano, Eagle and so forth the value of such treasure must be beyond words. yet all destroyed.
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Re: 35 years of thrills: 2012 belongs to 2000 AD!
« Reply #50 on: 07 February, 2012, 02:59:44 AM »
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Question is how well can those older covers be cleaned up if they are scanned from printed comics?
If they're scanned on the very expensive scanner from the original printing films from the archive then they shouldn't need much tinkering.
Weren't tons of these binned – in the Maxwell era, I think? I thought tons of the material in the graphic novels is scanned from printed comics.

Some of the early GN's were and the reprint that appeared in the meg but since the archive was set up after the DC deal was struck most reprint has been scanned straight from the original films.

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Re: 35 years of thrills: 2012 belongs to 2000 AD!
« Reply #51 on: 07 February, 2012, 09:53:07 AM »
Fantagraphics have started releasing a hardback series of Carl Bark's Disney comics, in date order.  The reproduction on the first one, "Lost in the Andes" is excellent.  The colours (which have been redone) are 'flat' which looks good and might suit the earlier progs.

It is an acknowledged fact that once upon a time original art work was binned!!! :o

which must be worth a kings ransom in this age of collectors.
I am not only referring to 2000ad, think of the beano, Eagle and so forth the value of such treasure must be beyond words. yet all destroyed.


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Re: 35 years of thrills: 2012 belongs to 2000 AD!
« Reply #52 on: 14 February, 2012, 10:20:34 AM »
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