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Re: Prog 1768: Toxic Shock!
« Reply #30 on: 06 February, 2012, 02:35:17 PM »
Astonishing prog this week, not least because it took ages to read.

Willsher's cover was a bit nondescript, which is a pity since Pete's blog reveals a more dramatic (if more traditional) composition was pitched to TMO.  I too was puzzled by the metal bits on the judge's arms - I love how Ben, like Cliff Robinson, works little updates into the judges' gear, but it's a bit confusing out of context.

As to the rest... what can be said?  It's all amazing, so just a few thoughts: 

I know I'm late to Day of Chaos, but I love the 'stateless terrorism' aspect of this story.  It's a lovely development of earlier themes of conflict - in The Apocalypse War we had superpower-on-superpower, in Total War we had internal terrorism, here we have an enemy with no homeland bent on complete annihilation of MC-1.  How does any state, even one with borders as relatively secure as MC-1 handle an enemy with nothing to lose and no static C&C or civilian population to threaten? 

I also love the many-headed threat here - why should villains pin all their hopes on one man (Orlok) or one one strategy (hidden nukes) - why not attack from all sides and levls at once, using other dissident groups, sleeper agents, multiple bio-warfare vectors... it's a clever, realistic scheme, and playing out brilliantly.

Oh, and Dante: YAY!  Loved the TV broadcast, loved what is presumably the very last Arbatov, loved everything.

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Re: Prog 1768: Toxic Shock!
« Reply #31 on: 06 February, 2012, 02:49:21 PM »
A particular moving moment in Dante where he cocks his head to his shoulder and retorts to an imagined remissive criticism from the missing Crest.
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Re: Prog 1768: Toxic Shock!
« Reply #32 on: 06 February, 2012, 04:34:10 PM »
A particular moving moment in Dante where he cocks his head to his shoulder and retorts to an imagined remissive criticism from the missing Crest.

So true.  The whole damn thing is moving, even the most heard-it-all-before of rabble-rousing speeches virtually brings a tear to the eye - this is what the word payoff means, a context within which every panel is perfectly pitched to carry the weight of all its predecessors.  As it moves to a close, Dante may be in the process of becoming the greatest of all modern-era 2000AD strips. 

I really hope that Morrison, Fraser and Burns get the credit they deserve when all this is done. 

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Re: Prog 1768: Toxic Shock!
« Reply #33 on: 08 February, 2012, 09:54:07 AM »
I was really touched by the Gary Speed tribute in JD.
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Re: Prog 1768: Toxic Shock!
« Reply #34 on: 09 February, 2012, 03:49:23 AM »
how does Dante stand out against such brilliance that the prog was? it is hard to explain but the nod to his crest was both emotional and one of pure joy, yet it was a single panel!

I would wager it was a moment of shared acknowledgement for those of us with history.seen occasionally in truly wonderful drama.but to convey it in this form. beyond words.

where to begin where to end. THRILLING!!! and satisfying to a level that words cannot convey.

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Re: Prog 1768: Toxic Shock!
« Reply #35 on: 09 February, 2012, 10:26:15 AM »
I appreciate the clandestine Editing skills with this run of stories. Grey Area is well placed between Dredd and Dante. Ipso facto Absolom between Dante and Dog.
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Re: Prog 1768: Toxic Shock!
« Reply #36 on: 09 February, 2012, 10:44:06 AM »
Just one thing I gotta to post here, what a beautiful opening for Dante!

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Re: Prog 1768: Toxic Shock!
« Reply #37 on: 09 February, 2012, 11:16:29 AM »
Wrong issue Goaty.
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Re: Prog 1768: Toxic Shock!
« Reply #38 on: 21 February, 2012, 07:38:28 PM »
Gag! I've been excited to see this cover of ages too! Cheers James!

Pete dashes off to stalk the Wisher droid!

Well done again, although there is an element not covered - the occult symbolism. The issue has been sitting on my desk staring at me, so it kind of slipped in subliminally but once lodged there it is difficult to ignore. Although it seems to have not been picked up, I see Boo Cook caught it in the comments over on your blog:
http://2000adcovers.blogspot.com/2012/02/ben-willsher-gas-attack.html?showComment=1328304563054#c4931666178928314554

On the lefthand block is:

A

A


The magical order set up by Crowley:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%E2%88%B4A%E2%88%B4

The star to the right of it is a unicursal hexagram created by the Golden Dawn and used by Crowley, it now being closely associated with Thelema:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicursal_hexagram
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelema

So is 2000AD back to its old tricks of trying to corrupt the minds of today's youth* with subtle occult symbolism? If so, good job and carry on.

* OK not the core readership any more but it stills stares balefully down at them from news agent shelves
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