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Re: Watchmen prequels now official and announced
« Reply #105 on: 04 February, 2012, 02:40:11 PM »
I am looking forward to this in much the way I've been eagerly anticipating Dan Brown's Young Raskolnikov series.
Please don't. It's bad enough when Moore compares himself to Melville.
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On the other hand, Mr Moore's always fond of pointing out that the films of his work don't affect the original material as it's all still there and I feel this applies equally here. Unlike Radiator, I really don't think The Matrix is retrospectively made shit by its unfortunate sequels.
A better example might be 'Psycho'. No one's ever gone off that because 'Psycho IV' is a bit rubbish.

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Re: Watchmen prequels now official and announced
« Reply #106 on: 04 February, 2012, 04:11:14 PM »
Kate Halprin?  That's a name I haven't heard in a l-o-o-o-n-g time.  Welcome back!

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« Reply #107 on: 05 February, 2012, 11:58:02 PM »
I'm so sick of all this re-hashing. Just give us something original for God's sake.

I want to see a series about robot blacksmith whose life falls apart after he is re-programmed to be a paedophile.

Still, don't worry Watchmen fans...

...it could have been worse!

All joking aside, he seems to be the only one with the right attitude to this project.

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« Reply #108 on: 06 February, 2012, 12:21:35 AM »
Moore talks about Before Watchmen on his recent webchat: http://vimeo.com/36211102
I'd have had more respect for him if he'd vented to Bleeding Cool in a cloud of bitterness, but he makes a total jerk of himself by responding intelligently and politely incidental to raising funds for the widow of Harvey Pekar, a move which just increases my contempt for Moore as a human being and stiffens my resolve that no matter what objective evaluation of his work comes to the conclusion that he is actually good as a writer, I will forever hate him and vocally point this out at any opportunity in the hope I feel less small.

Although his comments about Grant Morrison were fun: Morrison has gone out of his way to engineer a feud with Moore in recent times, and it would seem that it's because of passing comments made in 1988 that Zenith might be a bit derivative of Miracleman.  That Morison has held a grudge about this for 24 years is utterly hilarious.

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« Reply #109 on: 06 February, 2012, 12:30:54 AM »
More like Be-WHORE Watchmen, amirite?
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Re: Watchmen prequels now official and announced
« Reply #110 on: 06 February, 2012, 01:36:01 AM »
I've thought long and hard about this since it was confirmed/announced last week and the more I've thought about it and discussed it online the more firmly entrenched I've become in my resolve not to touch this fetid project with a 10' barge pole. I wish DC hadn't commissioned it; I wish the book teams (I can't bring myself to call them 'creators', 'necrophiliac grave-robbers' is nearer the mark) had had the integrity to tell DC to get stuffed; I wish the fanboys gleefully rubbing themselves into a masturbatory frenzy over the fact they can now buy a Rorschach comic ('though it looks like some of them might just be doing the same thing over a copy of Dr Manhattan as well!) had the self-respect to realise just how cynical this project is. But wishes ain't fishes... so I'm just going to tell my comics dealer when he (inevitably) asks me which titles I want "Thanks but no thanks", which is a bummer because I'm sure he could use the revenue these titles will undoubtedly generate but I'm damned if I'm going to give DC one penny of my hard-earned cash towards this incredibly cynical exercise.
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« Reply #111 on: 06 February, 2012, 01:41:44 AM »
Cool story, bro.
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« Reply #112 on: 06 February, 2012, 01:47:54 AM »

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« Reply #113 on: 06 February, 2012, 01:56:01 AM »
I'm damned if I'm going to give DC one penny of my hard-earned cash towards this incredibly cynical exercise.



What about all the other cynical exercises DC & Marvel put out every week? Hope you don't buy them either.

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« Reply #114 on: 06 February, 2012, 01:58:23 AM »
People queue round the block to buy Soap's mom's cynical exercises.



And why is everyone awake.
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« Reply #115 on: 06 February, 2012, 02:39:21 AM »
People queue round the block to buy Soap's mom's cynical exercises.



And why is everyone awake.

Really easy w/e.
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« Reply #116 on: 06 February, 2012, 09:26:11 AM »
Told my bro in law about this yesterday as he is a huge fan of Watchmen, GN and film, and he was abit meh but said he will buy the collected edition.
So good or bad it's just a win win for DC.



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Re: Watchmen prequels now official and announced
« Reply #117 on: 06 February, 2012, 04:26:53 PM »
Moore talks about Before Watchmen on his recent webchat: http://vimeo.com/36211102
I'd have had more respect for him if he'd vented to Bleeding Cool in a cloud of bitterness, but he makes a total jerk of himself by responding intelligently and politely incidental to raising funds for the widow of Harvey Pekar, a move which just increases my contempt for Moore as a human being and stiffens my resolve that no matter what objective evaluation of his work comes to the conclusion that he is actually good as a writer, I will forever hate him and vocally point this out at any opportunity in the hope I feel less small.

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Although his comments about Grant Morrison were fun: Morrison has gone out of his way to engineer a feud with Moore in recent times, and it would seem that it's because of passing comments made in 1988 that Zenith might be a bit derivative of Miracleman.  That Morison has held a grudge about this for 24 years is utterly hilarious.

I love Zenith, but it definitely owes a lot to [Marvel|Miracle]man. It's also by far the best thing Morrison's ever done. There may be a connection there.

What does Moore actually say about GM? (I would watch the webchat but it's 150 mins long and, somewhat ironically, certain commenters seem annoyed that video even exists.)

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Re: Watchmen prequels now official and announced
« Reply #118 on: 06 February, 2012, 05:00:29 PM »
They do have a point about putting private correspondence in the public eye, and it didn't actually occur to me that it was meant to be a private conversation given that Moore is so polite and well-spoken on even contentious topics during the chat, so that must mean that he's like that all the time and not just for his many public appearances at conventions - what a jerk!  Being polite all the time even when it avails him not - at least when certain creators at cons are being disingenuously polite for the occasion, that makes it special.  Don't you just wish you were half the writer Moore was hate his arrogance?

Also, I seem to have erroneously said Miracleman above instead of Captain Britain.  My bad.

Moore approached the long-simmering (and mostly one-sided) “feud” between himself and Grant Morrison cautiously but candidly, stating that the only time he met Morrison in person was when Morrison was an aspiring who approached Moore at a signing and then later was given the chance to accompany Moore (and others) to a dinner.

According to Moore, Morrison was a self-professed fan of his work, and upon seeing his work in 2000 AD Moore stated that he found it derivative of his work on CAPTAIN BRITAIN and before adding “I thought he’d grow out of it.”

Moore then discussed recommending Morrison to Karen Berger for a “proposed Alan Moore farm with Vertigo Comics,” only to then start becoming aware of numerous disparaging comments made about him by Morrison.

Moore claimed to have no real issues with Morrison, per say, stating that he didn’t even think of him much… although he did recently turn-down a third-party offer (presumably from Morrison himself, although not confirmed by Moore to be such) in which they would allow bygones to be bygones. Moore stated that he turned down the offer, citing a complete lack of interest in Morrison as a person or creator, before closing his answer with a playful story about how the only point of contention between himself and his “dear friend” Michael Moorcock was about which of them Morrison had stole from more over the years, with each one stating that it was the other.
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Re: Watchmen prequels now official and announced
« Reply #119 on: 06 February, 2012, 05:32:18 PM »
Grant Morrison always claimed Zenith was 'sampled' and Book 1 was too heavily influenced by Marvelman. But I think this is him just being disarming and modest.

Alan Moore never liked Arkham Asylum and had been instrumental in Grant not getting a MM short story in Warrior.

I think they are just chalk vs cheese. Smooth vs Beardy. Punk vs Hippy.

If anyone influenced Zenith it was Pete Milligans hero who I can't remember drawn by Brendan.