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Mr D

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Re: Dreams
« Reply #15 on: 21 March, 2004, 08:49:57 AM »
I've not been convinced by any real explanation so far. I think it's just the brain losing control a little bit while we're asleep and it's concentrating on something else.The imagination has free-reign maybe.

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Re: Dreams
« Reply #16 on: 21 March, 2004, 06:01:16 PM »
Several years after the death of my paternal grandfather, I had a really quite vivid dream about him.

For most of his life he was a tenant farmer near Northampton, working in the village where my family had lived since, roughly, the Norman Invasion of 1066. But he, my grandmother, my father and my aunt didn't have enough money to be able to afford to live in the village too.

I dreamt I was walking along a particular stretch of road with fields on both sides. It's a long, straight stretch of road which dips down quite steeply and which my father used to enjoy tearing along on his bike when he was a child.

As I'm walking along, I see an old tractor by the side of the road and, close by, there is a man leaning on the wall while eating a small lunch.

I ambled over and said hello. And we chatted.

I found out he had a son, who was a bit of a tearaway, and a daughter, who was a bit of a bookworm, and they lived just over the hill. Many of the details of the dream now elude me, but we must have talked for about 15 minutes while he told me about his life.

It was only when I walked away that I realised who has was. He was wearing a long leather coat that my father later owned and then passed onto me.

But by the time I'd realised and turned around, he was driving off in the tractor.

And then I woke up in tears.

It had been about three years since the death of my grandfather, who had been suffering from alzheimers and whose death still shocked me quite profoundly. He wasn't exactly the nicest man you could imagine, giving my dad the strap whenever he misbehaved and not treating my gran very nicely either.

But he was still my grandfather. And that dream, I believe, was just a way of saying goodbye, but deep down I knew that I'd never really known him properly when he was alive.
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Re: Dreams
« Reply #17 on: 21 March, 2004, 07:55:41 PM »
mr dribbles why is 'it out of control ' in sleep any more that awake?  stop and listen to your mind if you can, its harder than you think, there is layers & layers of it & Its CHAOS.  i don't feel that the human brain would have evolved over all these squillions of years to go 'out of control' at night. maybe the triggering of certain synapses is kindof random BUt , there is a relationship between the waking & the sleeping mind. I guess when asleep certain sections of the mind switch off, the 'doing that arithmetic'& thinking about the shopping part maybe?

we need a brain scientist here, i studied pyschology & the brain but stopped short of diploma level, how to help loonies is more my field.

when i studied my own sleep patterns & dreaming,  I trained myself to wake at intervals & record what i was dreaming. In the morning the notebook was a total revelation as 5 out of 7 of the dreams i would not remember at all. towards the morning the dreams became more mundane, a reharsal of the day to come but wierd the "can't find my sock" dream. further into the night it got wierder, " can't find my sock because its turned into a giant fish , so i better hide from the dinosaurs" dream  these roughly followed similiar themes but more & more abstract until the deepest darkest layer that i could reach & pull out into waking consiousness was basically a jumble of colours , patterns emotions, almost acid trippy, vague child like fears & sensations.

is it like a computer defragmanting maybe? dealing with files first then into programms & finally to the drivers & processors ?

last night dreams were fantastic ! crazy terry gilliamesque flower meadows, rocks & burns giving way to ridiculous gleaming techno futuristic city, cathedrals & unfeasably engineered structures. cooel.

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Re: Dreams
« Reply #18 on: 21 March, 2004, 09:11:48 PM »
Freud wrote that 'every dream is an unfulfilled wish'.
Now, I don't know about you, but being chased with a chainsaw and not being able to run away properly hasn't really been a life-long ambition of mine.
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Re: Dreams
« Reply #19 on: 21 March, 2004, 10:25:00 PM »
Castanedas a hoax or not, hmmmm...

I *want* to believe it, it certainly had a profound effect on me when I first read it in my early twenties...there's some good stuff on lucid dreaming and also some good advice about how to live your life "like a warrior".  Whether it's all literally "true" or not, I dunno.  Last time I was in Glastonbury I noticed a load of new Castaneda books which seemed just like cash-in stuff, Castaneda yoga books and all sorts of other stuff which didn't seem to tie in with his experiences with Don Juan and Genaro and all that wacky crowd.

And he snuffed it eh, so he didn't manage to "sneak past the Eagle" or whatever it was.

I read The Invisibles "Say You Want a Revolution" recently and noticed that the first part of that borrows heavily from the first few Don Juan books, down to the jumping off a tall building and bouncing between realities to get you down safely malarkey.

True or not, it's a damn good read.

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Re: Dreams
« Reply #20 on: 22 March, 2004, 12:09:22 AM »
ah, did he snuff it ? last article/interview i read he was working in a burger bar, as part of his warrior training, but that could have been a hoax, or a hoax hoax. i read some stuff ages back by some women from one of the 'groups' they were very interesting, but seemed to draw from different traditions, eastern philosphie & a hotch potch of new age stuff.

same as you , the early stuff sticks in my head & some of the concepts, he seems to have put words to difficult wierdness that worked, i like the whole energy, luminous egg stuff & ideas like 'a worthy opponent. The allies were scary as hell, but again do corelate with stuff from loads of other cultures. I lost my best friend for years because i think she decided it was time to erase 'personal history' which was a pretty harsh way of interpreting someones idea.

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Re: Dreams
« Reply #21 on: 22 March, 2004, 05:44:57 AM »
Hi there folks, new to the board (although i have been reading it for a while) - just haven't been arsed to register. Only been reading 2000ad for a couple of years and it's all my brother's progs but there ya go.

I just had to register to say that don't you guys think it's a little ironic that the brain doesn't understand how it works? A little like the way a CPU doesn't (as far as we know) understand how it works?

Oh, and my dreams are VERY strange: hedge mazes, on an Alien style ship with a pool and a decomposing corpse to kick in the face and get your foot stuck?

Heh, i love this kind've stuff....

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Re: Dreams
« Reply #22 on: 22 March, 2004, 07:17:24 AM »
Just a jumble of images when your brain is in the shutdown period.

The common falling/lethargic movement is probably down to survival instinct, in that the dosile brain will still register horror at the point of dream-death and panic when you can't get away from or at something.

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Re: Dreams
« Reply #23 on: 22 March, 2004, 07:23:46 AM »
I wish I dreamed...haven't remembered a dream in years...

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Re: Dreams
« Reply #24 on: 22 March, 2004, 09:21:06 AM »
used to have a recuring dream when I was younger, it involved me being at the beach standing in water up to my waist, for some reason my heart would start pumping I'd get really scared(dont know what of)start running out of the water every time i'd just about meke it  out waves would drag the sand out from under my feet causing me to fall, the next wave would pull me back out to waist level water and I'd run in again only to be foiled just befor leaving the water again, this would happen till my chest was burning from the effort then I'd wake up feeling like I'd just ran a marathon....no idea what it meant just used to scare the shit out of me, haven't had it since I was 22 or so but it was a constant every couple of nights from about the age of 12.

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Strange Dreams
« Reply #25 on: 03 June, 2004, 03:09:52 PM »
So anyway, there I was in a cottage in the cotswolds with my new friend who I had met only moments ago when his Dad walked in. It was Phil Collins.
He was a nice enough bloke, Phil. I just couldn't relax, he was talking about his music and I wanted to tell him he was crap but I couldn't because he was my mates Dad.
Then he showed me his collection of Nazi Folders.


Oh yeah, Jesus looks like Carrot Top.

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Re: Strange Dreams
« Reply #26 on: 03 June, 2004, 03:28:43 PM »
And what cheese had you been been eating on your butties before bed last night Mr C.?

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Re: Strange Dreams
« Reply #27 on: 03 June, 2004, 03:56:03 PM »
I love the crazy dreams threads...
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Re: Strange Dreams
« Reply #28 on: 03 June, 2004, 04:36:56 PM »
While I was at Bristol I had a dream that Iain Banks had comitted suicide adn all the evidence to reasons for it were obvious in his writing... mental.

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Re: Strange Dreams
« Reply #29 on: 03 June, 2004, 04:46:42 PM »
I've slept in my studio for the last couple of nights to give Mrs Eyebrows a chance to sleep without being woken up with my constant coughing/blowing of nose/moaning in misery.  Last night, I woke up convinced that the roof of the house was acting as an amplifier for cosmic radiation and that I could see and feel it coming through the roof and making me more ill than ever.

I'm putting it down to the medication.
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