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Title: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Molch-R on 10 December, 2014, 03:30:20 pm
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Attention citizens! Prepare yourselves for the definitive collection of the ultimate Lawman of the Future – Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection is launching on 21st January!

Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection is a fortnightly collection of classic stories from the UK’s biggest comic character, brought to you by Hachette Partworks and 2000 AD.

You can subscribe online now and get subscriber-only exclusive free gifts at www.judgedreddcollection.com make sure you check out the six specially commissioned artworks only available to subscribers.

Issue one will be available at all good newsagents in the UK and Ireland from on 21st January.

The series begins with Judge Dredd: America by John Wagner and Colin MacNeil, which is regularly cited as the greatest Judge Dredd story of all time.

This is the definitive collection of Judge Dredd and his world, packaged in beautifully produced hardback editions whose spines, once assembled, form a special brand new image that will bring the law to any fan’s bookshelves.

With stories that have never before been reprinted, the Mega Collection will give a behind-the-scenes glimpse into the development of classic characters, scenes and storylines with:
-   specially commissioned feature content exploring Dredd’s world
-   interviews with the creators
-   previously unseen sketches and designs

The Mega Collection will feature the most famous Judge Dredd stories such as The Cursed Earth, The Apocalypse War, and Necropolis alongside newer series such as Origins and Day of Chaos, plus incredible stories and insane characters from the world beyond the walls of Mega-City One.

Created by John Wagner and Carlos Ezquerra, for 38 years Judge Dredd has been the mainstay of the legendary weekly comic 2000 AD. Policing the vast megalopolis of Mega-City One that stretches down the east coast of America in the 22nd Century, Judge Dredd wields the powers of judge, jury, and executioner. The Judges rule the city with an iron fist in a satire on the excesses of state power which goes from police procedural to action strip to polemic to sprawling epics in the blink of an eye.

The series has produced some of the biggest British and Irish talent in comics– including Mark Millar, Grant Morrison, Garth Ennis, Chris Weston, Jock, Frazer Irving, and Brian Bolland. Their imaginative and groundbreaking stories are represented in this glorious new collection, some of them reprinted for the first time.

Whether you’re an old school fan looking to relive the classic stories or someone who’s looking to explore the world of Mega-City One, grab Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection from newsagents from January or subscribe online now!


FAQs

How many issues are there in the collection?

There are 80 issues in the collection.

How often is the collection published?
The collection will be published every fortnight.

What day will issues be available in the shops?
Issues are available on a Wednesday, every fortnight.

I can’t find any issues in the shops – what should I do?
You can ask your newsagent to place a regular order for you so you can pick up your issues from them, or alternatively you can subscribe and receive issues straight to your door. If you start your subscription from issues 1-4 you’ll also receive free gifts.

Where is my nearest stockist?
You should be able to pick up your copy from all good newsagents. Alternatively, you can subscribe online and have your issues delivered to your door.

How much does each issue cost?
Issue 1 comes at the special price of £1.99 (€3.99). Premium subscribers pay £2.99 (€4.99).
Issue 2 comes at a special price of £6.99 (€9.99). Premium subscribers pay £7.99 (€10.99).
Issue 3 onwards is priced at £9.99 per issue (€14.99). Premium subscribers £10.99 per issue (€15.99).

How can I get issues if I live outside the UK or Republic of Ireland?
We are sorry, but at the moment we cannot send issues outside the UK and R.O.I. due to licensing restrictions.

How do I subscribe?
You can subscribe in one of 3 ways; online, by telephone on 0844 412 9974, or by post by filling in a subscription form which can be found in issues 1, 2 and 3 of the collection.

How long will it take for my delivery to arrive?
Please allow 28 days from your order confirmation for your issues to be delivered.

What payment methods are available?
Direct Debit, Switch, Maestro, Visa, Delta, Mastercard or via invoice.

When will payments for my subscription be taken?
Payments are only taken once your order has been dispatched. Payments are taken every 4 weeks, and the date will depend upon when you take out your subscription.

Have you received my subscription request - I have not had confirmation?
If you have subscribed online, you will receive a confirmation email within 24 hours of placing your order. If you do not receive this email, please contact our Customer Service Team since there may have been a problem receiving your order, or an error with the email address used on your order form. If you subscribe via post or phone, you will receive a confirmation welcome letter within seven days of us receiving your request to subscribe. This contains your order reference number and details of your subscription. If you haven't received a welcome letter after 10 days, then please contact our Customer Service Team by one of the methods below. If you email the team, please include your name in the subject line.

When will I receive my free gifts?
Subscribers starting with issue 1, you will receive your FREE issue and FREE Replica Judge Dredd® Badge with your second delivery. If you subscribed online you will also receive your FREE Takeaway Mug.
You will receive your FREE Judge Dredd® Tin Coasters with your third delivery.
You will receive your FREE Judge Dredd® Metal Bookends with your fifth delivery.

Subscribers starting with issues 2, 3, or 4, you will receive your FREE issues and FREE Replica Judge Dredd® Badge with your first delivery. If you subscribed online you will also receive your FREE Takeaway Mug.
You will receive your FREE Judge Dredd® Tin Coasters with your second delivery.
You will receive your FREE Judge Dredd® Metal Bookends with your fourth delivery.

Premium subscribers will receive the first limited edition print with issue 10, after which you will receive a print every 14 issues.

Please note, some gifts may be dispatched separately from the issues.

How do I cancel my subscription?
You can cancel at any time giving 28 days’ notice - please contact our Customer Service Team via telephone, post or email. If you contact the team by writing, please include your name and subscription reference.

Can I get the free subscription gifts without subscribing?
No, sorry, but if you’d like to subscribe please go to the website. Please note that gifts are part of a special offer only available to people who start their subscription with issues 1, 2, 3 or 4.

How do I return an issue?
If you are not satisfied with a dispatch, you have the right to return it within 14 (fourteen) days from the day you received it. To exercise this right, simply inform us of your decision by email, telephone, or by sending us the withdrawal form [link: http://www.hachettepartworks.com/media/13676/return-form.pdf] available here. You may send us back the dispatch, at your own cost, without giving any reason and without any penalty. Of course, you will not have to pay for this dispatch. As soon as we have registered the return of the dispatch, your debt will be cancelled. The dispatch must be returned, sealed, with the invoice, where applicable, to the following address:

Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection
PO Box 77
Jarrow
NE32 3YH

Please include your subscription number with your parcel. A parcel kept more than 14 calendar days means acceptance and the invoice should be paid promptly.

Are the issues available digitally?
We’re sorry, but issues will not be available digitally.

I have already seen issues of this – is this collection different?
As part of our research we tested the first four issues in selected locations in the UK. The 80-volume collection is now launching nationally from issue 1 with a brand new, specially commissioned spine cover.

I subscribed to the test. Do I have to buy issues 1-4 again?
As a test subscriber, you will receive issue 1-4 completely free. You will receive an email to inform you of this and the next steps. If you did not provide an email address when subscribing you will receive a letter by post. If you have not received this by Saturday 20th December 2015, please contact our customer service team via any of the methods below. If you email the team, please include your name and subscription reference in the subject line.

I bought test issues through a retailer. Do I have to buy the issue(s) again?
No, if you email us at judgedredd@jacklinservice.com we will ensure that any issues you purchased are replaced with national issues.

How can I get back issues?
You can order back issues via the Hachette Partwork shop [link: http://www.hachettepartworks.com/shop], or alternatively you can contact our Customer Service Team using one of the methods below. Please note that it can take up to 28 days to deliver your back issues from receiving your request.

I have the wrong issue(s). What should I do?
We will replace all of your issues with the correct issues. In order for us to arrange a replacement, please contact our Customer Service Team by one of the methods below. If you email the team, please include your name and subscription reference in the subject line.

My issue(s) arrived damaged. What should I do?
We will replace any damaged issues. Please contact our Customer Service Team by one of the methods below. If you email the team, please include your name and subscription reference in the subject line.

Why can't I get through on the telephone number given?
We have lots of lines and staff dedicated to helping you, but they can be busy at peak times so please keep trying. Alternatively, please email our Customer Services Team on judgedredd@jacklinservice.com
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 10 December, 2014, 03:44:28 pm
Great!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 10 December, 2014, 03:49:02 pm
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Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 10 December, 2014, 03:52:19 pm
And as if by magic, they appeared :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 10 December, 2014, 03:54:10 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-30402725
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 10 December, 2014, 04:01:32 pm
These look gorgeous absolutely gorgeous.those spines better line up Molch-R or they'll be he'll to pay  :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin YNWA on 10 December, 2014, 04:16:16 pm
So those of you who've had these before (and I'm sure this has already been discussed so my apologies) what size are the volumes? Are they old Prog sized or smaller?

So very tempted but I own all this stuff... still so very tempted...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bolt-01 on 10 December, 2014, 04:21:50 pm
Even if I don't sub I'll be making sure I get copies of America- I know some lapsed Squaxx that would be very happy to see these.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: oshii on 10 December, 2014, 04:22:20 pm
I'm sure they'll be lovely but I can't justify the storage space and the really quite hefty cost for stuff that I've in most instances already got at least twice.

They do look nice though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richard on 10 December, 2014, 04:31:10 pm
These look brilliant. I would totally subscribe if I didn't already have so many of them in old editions that I pretty much need to move house to make room for them. But I might get one as a gift.

At least everyone who moaned about spines in this forum can finally feel like they've been listened to! Now you just need to get a shelf that's wide enough for 80 books.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: James Stacey on 10 December, 2014, 04:32:42 pm
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Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Buttonman on 10 December, 2014, 10:53:17 pm
Nice of them to give the trial copies free - it does mean no new volumes until February at the earliest - still some Christmas presents sorted!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 11 December, 2014, 12:14:55 am
It's bugging me - what's the volume right in the middle? The one numbered 55 that says "The HEA..."?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Banners on 11 December, 2014, 12:17:56 am
Heavy Metal Dredd?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 11 December, 2014, 02:02:51 am
Don't think so. The cover is making me think of The Corps.

Ron Smith and Jim Murray makes me think of Father Earth and the Holocaust 12 spin-off series.

'The Heavies' maybe? Themed collection about special squads like The Corps and H12?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 11 December, 2014, 02:10:30 am
Yeah definitely looks like the corps.The corps and holocaust squad aren't really heavyweight dreddworld stories maelstrom was a far better space judge story.Ron smith story about a different judge squad got me stumped.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spaceghost on 11 December, 2014, 08:15:00 am
I won't be subrcribing as, like many others here, I already have most of the stuff I want from Dredd's long history. I will be picking up issue one, and possibly issue two, then I'll see if any of the others takes my fancy when I see them in the shops.

Fans like us who already have all this stuff are obviously not the main target audience for this (apart from Mr. Burdis of course) but I shared the link on Facebook when the test issue came out, and one of my comic reading friends, who has inexplicably never read any Dredd but has been looking for a way in, has immediately subscribed, and another friend has started getting it for her son.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 11 December, 2014, 08:19:56 am
..and one of my comic reading friends, who has inexplicably never read any Dredd but has been looking for a way in, has immediately subscribed, and another friend has started getting it for her son.

It takes the decision making out of the equation: no 'there's over 2200 of these comics, where should I start?', or 'which one of these 12 editions of Judge Death should I get?', just sign up and let the nice men send you what you need.  I can see the attraction.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 11 December, 2014, 08:24:58 am
Don't think so. The cover is making me think of The Corps.

Ron Smith and Jim Murray makes me think of Father Earth and the Holocaust 12 spin-off series.

'The Heavies' maybe? Themed collection about special squads like The Corps and H12?

That makes sense to me, maybe 'The Heavy Squads', or somesuch.  I'm sure you're right that Ron is there for 'Father Earth'.  Be nice to have that one in a shiny edition, actually.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 11 December, 2014, 09:39:18 am
I look forward to seeing effusive apologies offered by those who declared this product doomed/stillborn/DOA based on their in-depth grasp of publishing logistics and marketing.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 11 December, 2014, 10:55:37 am
I look forward to seeing effusive apologies offered by those who declared this product doomed/stillborn/DOA based on their in-depth grasp of publishing logistics and marketing.
Presumably along with the retractions about how Rebellion and/or Hachette were "ripping people off", not least because of the spine art changing for the new run (for which replacements will be given entirely for free)?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: James Stacey on 11 December, 2014, 11:30:14 am
boom!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 11 December, 2014, 12:16:00 pm
FFS. I know comics aren't exactly considered to be at the high end of media, but people do actually have to be able to read, in order to take in comics, right? Or do these people just look at the pictures and ignore EVERYTHING they've been told about what's happening?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 11 December, 2014, 12:24:56 pm
..and one of my comic reading friends, who has inexplicably never read any Dredd but has been looking for a way in, has immediately subscribed, and another friend has started getting it for her son.

It takes the decision making out of the equation: no 'there's over 2200 of these comics, where should I start?', or 'which one of these 12 editions of Judge Death should I get?', just sign up and let the nice men send you what you need.  I can see the attraction.

Exactly this - a friend of mine, never been into Dredd before, linked the BBC article to me, with the note that he is extremely tempted to subscribe, even having never even read 2000AD before. 

It's a great idea, which may even be working!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: strontium71 on 11 December, 2014, 12:29:00 pm
Is it considered sad to have the subscription and also a shop bought copy - just for the card backer , which I presume it'll have? I know it's expensive but that's the way of collecting.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mardroid on 11 December, 2014, 02:51:06 pm
My local Comic Book Guy, has little experience with Dredd but he liked the film. I believe he's also been getting the IDW comics and he was interested in delving further into Dredd's world. (Or should that be 'worlds'?) So I introduced him to this collection and he subscribed.

This happened relatively late and last I heard he had received nothing. I think he will be delighted to receive this news.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Pete Wells on 11 December, 2014, 05:36:55 pm
Yeah, I passed on 1,2 & 3 to a friend who reads the odd Batman GN and he's hooked. This is a great way to get new folk on board.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 11 December, 2014, 08:10:41 pm
FFS. I know comics aren't exactly considered to be at the high end of media, but people do actually have to be able to read, in order to take in comics, right? Or do these people just look at the pictures and ignore EVERYTHING they've been told about what's happening?

Hachette's letter announcing the end of the trial wasn't exactly setting people up to be positive though.

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Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 11 December, 2014, 09:50:18 pm
I look forward to seeing effusive apologies offered by those who declared this product doomed/stillborn/DOA based on their in-depth grasp of publishing logistics and marketing.
Presumably along with the retractions about how Rebellion and/or Hachette were "ripping people off", not least because of the spine art changing for the new run (for which replacements will be given entirely for free)?

Just for asking; Are these two posts referring to people on this forum, or elsewhere?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Robes on 11 December, 2014, 10:15:40 pm
These look great, as someone who lapsed from buying 2000ad at around '94 and has recently to delved into the digital graphic novel archive, I think this is an easy way to build up a nice collection of tangible books.  I'll be subscribing for sure, even though I have some of the stories in digital format already.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Toni Scandella on 11 December, 2014, 10:20:17 pm
I might have accidentally subscribed.  I couldn't not.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 11 December, 2014, 10:25:37 pm
Just for asking; Are these two posts referring to people on this forum, or elsewhere?

Yup.

Jim
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 December, 2014, 10:37:46 pm
Excuse me if I'm being dumb, but I suscribed to the test run, does that effectively mean that my sub has reset and I have to re-subscribe from issue 5 or does it just carry on from where it left off and I have to do nothing?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 11 December, 2014, 11:30:08 pm
Excuse me if I'm being dumb, but I suscribed to the test run, does that effectively mean that my sub has reset and I have to re-subscribe from issue 5 or does it just carry on from where it left off and I have to do nothing?

I subscribed to the test. Do I have to buy issues 1-4 again?
As a test subscriber, you will receive issue 1-4 completely free. You will receive an email to inform you of this and the next steps. If you did not provide an email address when subscribing you will receive a letter by post. If you have not received this by Saturday 20th December 2015, please contact our customer service team via any of the methods below. If you email the team, please include your name and subscription reference in the subject line.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: dweezil2 on 11 December, 2014, 11:56:12 pm
Cheers Bat King! :)
I didn't really explain myself adequately, specifically it was about upgrading to the premium subscription to receive the prints, in the email I was sent it says about upgrading to this premium service from issue 5.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 12 December, 2014, 08:52:04 am
Are apologies required? Seems to me as if a lot of people (myself included) were confused by the test marketing project and by the conflicting messages we were receiving from Hachette itself.

I understand that a lot of this had to be kept under wraps while figures were analysed, and that in a sense we on the forum were not really the test audience. Hachette presumably knew we would be buying, it was its wider crossover appeal they were trying to gauge.

As most of us were not privy to all this information as the soft launch happened I think we can be forgiven for acting in a confused manner particularly when there was the spectre of paying for something that we might not actually receive.

Now the carefully conceived plan has be revealed in its greater glory then we can all lean back, wipe our brows and say phew. Well done to Hachette and Rebellion and roll on my first delivery.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 12 December, 2014, 09:17:31 am
Are apologies required?

No. Not by anyone on this forum in regards to this matter.
The other thread is still up, and people can re-read it should they wish....


But yes, looking forward to this collection. Every inch of it looks most superb.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 December, 2014, 11:16:18 am
People being confused and a bit irritated is one thing (although it's notable no-one 'left waiting' for books was actually charged any money), but there have been outright accusations in various places of ripping off readers/early subscribers, along with complaints that clearly no-one knew what they were doing, despite this being a publishing test-run. I'm glad it's turned out nicely, but there are still people being jerks over on Facebook, and they're still somehow finding things to complain about. (Just about the only grumble that has any justification is that this set of titles is currently UK-only, but that's the nature of licensing. All of the other moans just strike me as petty and ignorant.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ManParrish on 12 December, 2014, 04:47:09 pm
I emailed them 2 days ago regards a couple of things not clear on their site - not had a reply yet so hope not a sign of how they operate!  :-\
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 14 December, 2014, 04:54:23 pm
I'm so glad this series is going ahead. The three books received were of such a high quality and perfect for a lapsed fan like myself. I'm interested if the Prints have enticed many people. Without seeing them the extra £80 pounds seems steep for 6 pieces of art unseen. I wonder how many people are tempted or is it just the completists?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 December, 2014, 05:55:18 pm
I thought the same about the prints. Interesting at based on the survey they were testing the water about making 11 quid the default price for every book. Maybe this is a cunning way to get more income from some people by giving them some very limited prints in return.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mardroid on 14 December, 2014, 05:57:10 pm
I saw the £1.00 extra (per order) and thought, "hmm. Not bad."

But when you put it like that...

I hadn't decided by the way.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Rook on 15 December, 2014, 07:30:26 pm
First post in a long time!

I've subscribed to this; or at least I think I have. I've had no confirmation email, which is slightly concerning (although perhaps they're having a lot of demand, but even then I'd expect something automatic). I'm really excited to see what these books are like, though. I was originally collecting the Case Files but I think these are a much better option for me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 15 December, 2014, 09:25:50 pm
Are you a premium subscriber?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Rook on 15 December, 2014, 10:32:51 pm
Are you a premium subscriber?

Me? No.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 16 December, 2014, 03:44:36 pm
I'd love to see some of these volumes just have art from one artist. I don't mean splitting up mega-epics but I'd love to see the 'stand-alone' stories of Steve Dillon, Brett Ewins, Brendan McCarthy, Jock, etc collected. It would nicely differentiate them from the casefiles and encourage double-dipping.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 16 December, 2014, 05:26:00 pm
If anyone wants to know a bit more about the premium service, I had this reply to an email I sent them:

Please be advised that for the premium subscription there is an additional £1 charge monthly and you will get the first print with issues 10 & 11 and afterwards with every 14 issues. You can opt out of it when you wish,all you need to do is inform us.


Cheers
 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 16 December, 2014, 07:40:05 pm
If you get a wonderful a3 photo quality image rolled in a tube this would be great. If it's a folded piece of a4 it wouldn't be so cool. I think the first issue of the test run came with a folded image of the recent Bolland megazine cover of Dredd allies & foes. It was good but not worth £14 -  if it's an indicator of quality.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ManParrish on 19 December, 2014, 08:01:45 pm
I have taken out the subscription, however after opening an account it does not let me link a subscription to it...it simply takes me back to the "create an account" page again! Has anyone had any success with this (or not)? Did email them days ago but as yet no reply
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moly on 22 December, 2014, 11:24:27 am
Anyone have any idea which stories will be included ?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 December, 2014, 07:11:50 pm
If anyone has any problems, there is a facebook page so you could ask direct questions there. This is obviously if emails and phone calls haven't worked!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 23 December, 2014, 01:40:45 pm
Anyone have any idea which stories will be included ?

Despite what has been publicised... no. Speculation would hit several correct guesses though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 23 December, 2014, 01:48:53 pm
Anyone have any idea which stories will be included ?

Vol 1: The Essential Mark Millar

Vol 2: Sonny Steelgrave's Greatest Hits

Vol 3: EXCLUSIVE! Never-before-published Michael Fleisher Dredd epic
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 23 December, 2014, 02:22:36 pm
Anyone have any idea which stories will be included ?

According to their fb page, the first 4 confirmed are

America
Mechanismo
The Apocalypse War
Origins

Everything else is just going to be guesses from the covers shown...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 02 January, 2015, 02:57:39 pm
Anyone have any idea which stories will be included ?

Vol 1: The Essential Mark Millar

Vol 2: Sonny Steelgrave's Greatest Hits

Vol 3: EXCLUSIVE! Never-before-published Michael Fleisher Dredd epic


Now that I would pay money to see! :o

Vol 4:  Dredd visits Chronos Carnival.

TBH I've been in two minds with this.  Like a lot of others the thought of duplicating material already owned doesn't make a lot of sense but then the extras / concept gallery looks interesting.  The reviews from those who tried the test subscription has inspired a bit of confidence as well so I'm taking the plunge!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: dweezil2 on 02 January, 2015, 04:31:39 pm
There’s an article and advertisement in this months SFX magazine regarding the collection, so it looks like they're giving it a good push!   :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 02 January, 2015, 04:53:34 pm
Does anyone know if this will go digital? Just having a mass clear out today as the space in the house has now ran out but would still be interested in this if it goes digital.

No way I could make space for 80 volumes xD Struggling to find space for progs and megs :(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 02 January, 2015, 05:09:56 pm
I don't think Hachete do digital at all.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 02 January, 2015, 07:27:48 pm
Thanks for the heads up, will keep an eye out just in case :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 04 January, 2015, 06:26:05 pm
Stupid question, I may have ran straight over the details somewhere, but when do these start coming out?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 04 January, 2015, 06:30:21 pm
http://www.2000adonline.com/news/12-12-2014/judgedreddthemegacollection/ (http://www.2000adonline.com/news/12-12-2014/judgedreddthemegacollection/)

21st of January
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 05 January, 2015, 10:13:47 am
I want to see TV adverts for this!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 05 January, 2015, 06:15:14 pm
http://www.2000adonline.com/news/12-12-2014/judgedreddthemegacollection/ (http://www.2000adonline.com/news/12-12-2014/judgedreddthemegacollection/)

21st of January

Thanks, don't know how I missed that.  Mind I had an email today confirming that as well.  First issue then, and every four weeks. Nice way to end the month!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: chiefy2shoes on 05 January, 2015, 08:36:55 pm
I'm guessing the page size is similar to that of US sized comics rather than the larger prog. Does the resizing of material look okay? (for those that have tried the test batch)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Pete Wells on 05 January, 2015, 11:21:38 pm
I re-subscribed to this today (it's a long story...) and my subscriber number went from 00018 to well into the 700's. I know that isn't a very scientific study but it seems to be doing well if they've got around about that many subbers at £20 a month...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 January, 2015, 11:23:12 pm
Tell us your long story :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 14 January, 2015, 01:30:07 am
Next week. 2000ads FB page has been doing a countdown.

Weirdly I (subscriber to the initial run) got a zero invoice from them today that read as if it was to be included with the actual volumes. Different to the 'thank you for your old subscription, it is being transferred to the new volumes automatically' one of a few weeks back.

Long may they keep charging me nothing.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 14 January, 2015, 03:08:14 am
I'm guessing the page size is similar to that of US sized comics rather than the larger prog. Does the resizing of material look okay? (for those that have tried the test batch)

Wider than US comics. The test run was about 1cm shorter than a Rebellion TPB, same width (it looks slightly wider and only about 0.5 cm shorter because it has a slightly oversized hard back cover. Absolutely no resizing issues.

These really are stunning quality reproductions. The cover styling is great, the quality of the book first rate. The 'additional material' is a bit over-sold:

issue 1 has 2 page text / picture article on the background of Wagner writing the story (nothing new), 2 pages of MacNeil character sketches (solid gold) ,1 large cover reproduction and 4 1/4 page cover reproductions. It also has the drawn-by-MacNeil short 'Firepower' from Prog 736 which seems pretty incongruous. TBH a couple of more MacNeil sketches or full sized covers would have been more apt.

Issue 2 has 5 full page covers and a 1 page bio on Colin MacNeil

Issue 3 has 9 full sized covers (including a Bolland wrap-around) and a one page article by Molcher on the story's context.

So tbh the only real exclusive stuff so far is 2 pages of sketches in vol. 1

However that really doesn't matter when you see how nice these hardback editions are.the only thing I hope they modify is the lack of full colour spreads in the pre-colour Dredd. It's clear from the paper, printing and colour covers in the same book it isn't a cost decision dictating that (or a cost-to-print decision, maybe pre-printing reproduction work would be needed).

When you see Vol 1 in the shops you'll jump on. These are, even at 9.99, incredible value.



Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Rook on 14 January, 2015, 09:34:26 pm
That's a great description - I'm even more excited for this now. It seems they've begun to arrive, so hopefully mine will come this week.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: amines2058 on 14 January, 2015, 11:58:51 pm
Do we know yet which high street retailers, supermarkets etc will be carrying these?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 15 January, 2015, 12:56:49 am
Do we know yet which high street retailers, supermarkets etc will be carrying these?

Bit of coordination on the board will be good, I'll certainly update where and when I find em (although I'm buying multiple of #1 & #2 as gifts as its a unique opportunity to Spread The Word.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: amines2058 on 15 January, 2015, 06:32:00 am
Good call BPP I am sure that the usual suspects such as FP and WH Smiths wil lcarry pluis mybe some local newsagents, and probably ASDA who always seem to have these large Hachette 3000 part collections on the shelf. (I should know I got the initial issues of the Star Trek Space ships collection from there!)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 15 January, 2015, 11:19:05 am
It'll be interesting to see if there's any correlation or not with places that actually carry 2000 AD. None of our local supermarkets do (despite the nearby Tesco being the size of a small town), but even our smallish WHSmith has 2000 AD on the shelves every week.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 15 January, 2015, 11:33:04 am
FP won't have it (unless, as some intend, they go through a few creative hoops) as its not for LCS. Given those may have a back stock of Rebellion TPBs you can see the logic.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Molch-R on 15 January, 2015, 11:34:43 am
FP won't have it (unless, as some intend, they go through a few creative hoops) as its not for LCS. Given those may have a back stock of Rebellion TPBs you can see the logic.

Forbidden Planet will be carrying it, as will selected comic book stores across the UK and Ireland.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 15 January, 2015, 11:39:49 am
FP won't have it (unless, as some intend, they go through a few creative hoops) as its not for LCS. Given those may have a back stock of Rebellion TPBs you can see the logic.

Forbidden Planet will be carrying it, as will selected comic book stores across the UK and Ireland.

Oh right. Mine is lying then. But no actual surprise as they've lied to me loads of times.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Molch-R on 15 January, 2015, 11:41:50 am
It depends on the manager (hence why we're not shouting about it) and does require them to figuratively jump through some hoops. Which is your local store?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: J.Smith on 15 January, 2015, 12:14:06 pm
FP won't have it (unless, as some intend, they go through a few creative hoops) as its not for LCS. Given those may have a back stock of Rebellion TPBs you can see the logic.

Forbidden Planet will be carrying it, as will selected comic book stores across the UK and Ireland.

Yeah, I saw this yesterday. Very good stuff and hopefully it means more people will even simply stumble across it by chance. But if FP are selling it, doesn't that mean people outside the UK and Ireland will be able to get copies after all? Was it just subscriptions through Hachette that were restricted to us?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Molch-R on 15 January, 2015, 12:21:10 pm
Yeah, I saw this yesterday. Very good stuff and hopefully it means more people will even simply stumble across it by chance. But if FP are selling it, doesn't that mean people outside the UK and Ireland will be able to get copies after all? Was it just subscriptions through Hachette that were restricted to us?

No, Diamond are not carrying it - comic book stores are ordering it through a UK magazine distributor - so it will still not be available outside the UK and Ireland.

Edit: Though there is nothing to stop someone mail ordering copies through a comic book store just the same as they can ask a relative, friend, associate or internet stranger to order it for them and mail it on.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: J.Smith on 15 January, 2015, 12:54:47 pm
Ah, thanks for clearing that up. One day it hopefully will be then.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 15 January, 2015, 02:59:52 pm
Surely this is the perfect opportunity for a business savvy youth to set up his own US distribution company sending copies to people in the US!

My first edition arrived today and it is really nice!


Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ManParrish on 15 January, 2015, 04:23:26 pm
Pleasant surprise to find mine when I got home...did not expect it for another couple of weeks. Very please I subscribed  :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mangamax on 15 January, 2015, 04:26:29 pm
Got mine too. Right, no telly tonight then  :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 15 January, 2015, 04:38:15 pm
There's no telly for you because I want to see your finished Judge Fear.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Rook on 16 January, 2015, 02:37:28 pm
Got mine today - it's a beautiful book, so much nicer than the old trade I originally read "America" and "The Fading of the Light" in years ago.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dandontdare on 16 January, 2015, 03:39:22 pm
I'm not interested in subscribing because I've already got all of them in other formats, but I may cherry-pick the odd volume or two from FP, including this first one - don't suppose there's an index of future volumes anywhere?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mangamax on 16 January, 2015, 04:20:10 pm
Ha! Zenith, promise i'm only reading it while paint dries on bits of Fear  :D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Mangamax/SDC102862bv_zps624279b5.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ManParrish on 16 January, 2015, 07:41:56 pm
Does anyone know the order in which the gifts come? I cannot find the original
Email and the website does not appear to clarify?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Ghost MacRoth on 16 January, 2015, 08:06:52 pm
Badge, cup, coasters, free issue, bookends.  Never mentioned the poster they sent with #1!  Looking forward to the next already.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 16 January, 2015, 08:08:01 pm
mangamax fear looks great.ive got the Dredd 70mm but terrified to go near him with a brush.Especially after seeing some of the paint jobs online.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mangamax on 16 January, 2015, 09:01:28 pm
Know what you mean - i've got the Dredd one and, while i'll have a go at the stars 'n stripes belt buckle, i'm chickening out of the lightning flashes on the visor  :o
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Pete Wells on 17 January, 2015, 01:40:39 pm
First of the subbers prints have been released, Flinty goodness!

(http://s23.postimg.org/83yuq5ndn/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 19 January, 2015, 08:10:07 pm
OK Comics are certainly getting a stock.

And Subs numbers are now over 900 from what I can make out...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 19 January, 2015, 08:39:12 pm
So for those who subscribed to this, is the response manual rather than automated? (I subscribed this evening, because what the hell, but several hours later, I have no kind of confirmation, which is a bit odd for this kind of thing.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Ghost MacRoth on 19 January, 2015, 08:45:05 pm
I got email confirmation.  Don't recall if it was instant....but it was the same day.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 January, 2015, 09:05:40 pm



It's got a TV trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61EYeuGvbBc&spfreload=10).



Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 January, 2015, 11:11:02 am
I got email confirmation.  Don't recall if it was instant....but it was the same day.
Arrived this morning. #989. Amusingly boilerplate text, given that it says I'll get my first issue before tomorrow! :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Ghost MacRoth on 20 January, 2015, 12:25:24 pm
You'll not be disappointed, it's wonderfully put together.  As I've said elsewhere, I'm not usually one to bother with re-prints, but I'm happily making an exception for this set.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 January, 2015, 12:43:58 pm
I'm going to give it a go. Not sure for how long, but a few deliveries at least. (The series coincides with a mag I regularly contributed to abruptly shutting down, so I'm getting a touch paranoid about income right now.)

But the books do look like they'll be very nice, and so I wanted to at least give them a try. (I also have a ton of stuff to offload, so that could maybe subsidise this series in the long run!)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Albion on 21 January, 2015, 09:55:33 am
There were five copies of this in my local newsagent this morning so I bought three of them and gave two to a couple of workmates who like comics.

I wasn't planning on subscribing to this as I have the stories already of course and I still subscribe to the Marvel partwork and I'm sure I can't afford both. But.............now I have it my hands its soooo good! I knew the quality would be good as the Marvel books have been great too.

I get the Marvel books as until now I had very little Marvel in my collection and they have been great. They have moved on to a lot of older Marvel stories now, that I'm not quite so keen on.
Oh what to do?!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Buttonman on 21 January, 2015, 10:01:07 am
It's a ponderer - whether to buy them all up to share and potentially deny a casual browser the chance to buy or potentially leave them on the shelf. Think Albion's balance is about right - out to check Tescos.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: amines2058 on 21 January, 2015, 11:07:02 am
Is there any chance that people can report where they are seeing this being sold for the benefit of others on here? Obviously local newsagent may not be so useful, but if for example Tesco or Asda were selling, then at least it will be easier for the masses to locate. I am going to be out hunting for this tonight after work.
Thank you!  :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 21 January, 2015, 11:26:37 am
I went and had a look in Smiths - no sign of it :(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Buttonman on 21 January, 2015, 12:31:49 pm
I had a tour of Paisley - none in Tesco, Morrisons or WH Smiths. Hopefully just delayed by the weather. They did however have piles of partworks including the Falcon, a 3D globe, 3D printer, gem stones and , rather creepily - dead bugs - Crane-flies this week!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mangamax on 21 January, 2015, 01:16:56 pm
Not in our Smiths, but was in the front window of our teeny, tiny newsagents  :-*
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: James Stacey on 21 January, 2015, 04:37:05 pm
Plenty in Smiths in Cardiff. I bought 2 and left them on colleagues desks
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 21 January, 2015, 05:54:27 pm
got issue one now subscribed the craftsmanship on it is superb
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 21 January, 2015, 06:13:35 pm
Hastings whs has received 25 copies,  and had sold ten or so when I was in there at midday.  In fact I was in a queue in which I and two others were clutching the prog and they were armed with the Mega Collection  as well.  I'd not had that experience since the early eighties!

Interestingly,  I was told they got 30 "build a Millennium Falcon' #1s but now only get seven.  The "Do Some Knitting" partwork,  out this week,  swamped the shop with 250 copies! 

My local newsie had two Mega Collections out on sale.

SBT
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dandontdare on 21 January, 2015, 06:16:33 pm
Tales of Snotty Forbidden Planet Staff #345:
Picked up the Howard the Duck volume of the Marvel/Hachette partwork yesterday. At the counter I asked if they had the first volume of the Judge Dredd partwork from the same publisher, to which I got a sneer and the condescending explanation that this was unlikely because Marvel don't publish Judge Dredd. I patiently explained what I meant by 'publisher' at which the tack changed and said they "hadn't been offered that" as if it were beneath them.

Seriously, is the attitude part of the training with that chain?

So I bough it in Smiths.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Goosegash on 21 January, 2015, 06:19:17 pm
Didn't see any sign of this in WH Smiths Luton today. They also seem to've stopped carrying the weekly as well(although the Megazine was still there).  :'(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 21 January, 2015, 06:30:25 pm
I'm still collecting Discovery - not seen it in the shops for ages . . .
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 21 January, 2015, 06:44:55 pm
Picked up mine today and a couple for a few mates.The quality is just fantastic.I was sold before I picked up first copy.Whos idea was this was it Rebellion or Hachette.Stellar work on from both sides.looking forward to reading this after football later.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: dweezil2 on 21 January, 2015, 06:51:50 pm
Nice to see it in WHSmiths Ashford, KENT today, when picking up my Meg and 2000AD!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 21 January, 2015, 07:29:47 pm
Plenty in the Tallaght Easons, for those of a SW Dublin bent.

And what a production it is. I was wondering what I might be doing with yet another reprint of America, but this is a terrific upgrade.  I'll certainly get the next two, and see where we go from there. I could definitely use an Origins collection in this format but another Shamballa would depend on whether the extras are as good as in this first one, and the price tag is going to be impossible to justify for more than an occasional dip.  Luckily I'm not fussed by the subscriber freebies.

One very minor gripe, I thought the poster was going to be the next nice Dredd-contemplates-the-city on the outside, instead of the recent Bolland Meg cover. It's nice, but I had reserved a spot for the cityscape over my desk!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 21 January, 2015, 08:03:56 pm
another Shamballa


No more Shamballa, please! :'(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 January, 2015, 08:39:18 pm
List of stockists (https://www.facebook.com/judgedreddcollection/photos/a.1523545327903270.1073741828.1517847991806337/1541013996156403/?type=1&theater):


Independent

WHS High Street

Martin McColl Group

Co-Op Group

One Stop Group

Eason & Son Group

WHS Travel

Morrisons

Tesco Ireland


Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 21 January, 2015, 08:47:56 pm
Cor, Tesco Ireland is a bit of a coup. Never seen Tharg's verdant visage in there before.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: JOE SOAP on 21 January, 2015, 08:55:06 pm



Aiming for the Pyjama Girl demographic.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Echidna on 21 January, 2015, 09:24:03 pm
My nearest WH Smiths had only two copies left by the time I got there. I was delighted to discover my local Co-op has it too - if it hasn't sold out by the weekend I'll grab a copy for a friend, mainly because I want them to keep stocking it!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 21 January, 2015, 10:17:03 pm
Picked a copy up at WHSmiths this evening in Newcastle, they had 5 left right by the tills just before they shut this evening if that helps anyone.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 21 January, 2015, 10:45:07 pm
What's wrong with shamballa.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: oshii on 21 January, 2015, 10:46:07 pm
Half the pages were still stuck together in my copy, but that's just one of those things

Very nicely designed though, but I just haven't got the space on my shelves or in my wallet to get the lot.  Suspect I might pick up the odd one here or there though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Judge Nutmeg on 21 January, 2015, 11:19:26 pm
first book superb, nice run of back up stories. I'd be happy if it was purely Dredd stories but oh well. Glad I did'nt collect the complete case files now.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 21 January, 2015, 11:52:39 pm
What's wrong with shamballa.
To my mind, nothing. I thought it was a well-written, nicely illustrated and mature take on the character, but without some of the fairly heavy-handed stuff Grant would later add (Judge Goon, and the Christianity arc).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 22 January, 2015, 12:08:06 am
What's wrong with shamballa.

I assume 'nothiing' but that it's been reprinted many times now - some folk will have bought the individual trade or it then a few years later picked it up as part of the PSI FILES 02.

No luck finding it near me today
Sainsburys Armagh - 0
McNearnies Newsagents - 0
Tescos Portadown - 0
Tescos Craigavon - 0
ASDA Portadown - 0

I take it 'Tescos - Ireland' is ROI because the Craigavon store is their largest and has as big a magazine section as exists in the north thesedays.

On the upside I've now a nice collection of Nat. Geographic Rocks, some 'Insects and Spiders' and am learning to Sew in handy weekly installments!




Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 22 January, 2015, 12:08:55 am
Nicely illustrated?you mean beautifully illustrated by Ranson.it also had that Dredd world map I couldn't stop looking at.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 22 January, 2015, 12:20:58 am
I got 4 on Wednesday morning from OK Comics in Leeds. Then gave three to colleagues at work (two bought them via me, the other was a gift from me)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 22 January, 2015, 07:53:45 am
Plenty in Smiths in Cardiff. I bought 2 and left them on colleagues desks

I'd better get down there fast!!!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 22 January, 2015, 08:36:45 am
Nicely illustrated?you mean beautifully illustrated by Ranson.it also had that Dredd world map I couldn't stop looking at.

Nothing but good things to say about Shamballa, but I already have 3 formats! So my interest would depend on what else there is in the back that the Psi Files don't offer.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 22 January, 2015, 10:28:19 am
Well, that's six issues one's bought from Smiths in Cardiff, and five of them dispensed to comic-loving colleagues in work. 

That'll do, Pig.  That'll do.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 22 January, 2015, 10:43:08 am
What's wrong with shamballa.

I assume 'nothiing' but that it's been reprinted many times now - some folk will have bought the individual trade or it then a few years later picked it up as part of the PSI FILES 02.


The comic
the complete 2000AD
the  original trade
the psi files
. .. the story is ok as a stand alone tale, but when taken in context of the Anderson journey it is another 'world destroying event with religion and mysticism' story where Anderson saves the world just by being in the right place at the right time. And no one even cares or thanks her.

When you think about it, she has saved the world a lot more than Dredd has and no one even realises!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 22 January, 2015, 01:20:01 pm
The missus responded favourably to Vol 1, having not read Tooth in many years, she liked the idea of a themed collection that in theory at least would contain all she needed by way of context - so that approach would seem to have some traction with the lay reader. She also couldn't believe that the whole book was the work of the same artist, so hats off to Colin for never sitting still.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Buttonman on 22 January, 2015, 01:48:52 pm
None in the massive Tesco in Silverburn but I found some on small independent newsagents - still available at Shalamar on Ladyburn Street and the newsagent on the junction of Penilee Road and Glasgow Road.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: briantm on 22 January, 2015, 02:49:40 pm
Picked this up today. Hell of a book to get for two quid. Probably won't get any beyond the introductory offer. This is obviously something they've considered but I do wonder how much of a loss they will be taking on the first issue.

I really like the cover designs. Minimalist with nice font choices. Unfortunately the read isn't very red on my book. It has a slightly wan tone to it; almost pinky. A tiny complaint that only the pedantic among us will even notice.

Looking forward to rereading these stories. Colin rocks  :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 22 January, 2015, 02:50:43 pm
I just opened mine and had a flip through. The quality is truly astounding!! Even if this had been priced at a tenner from the outset it would have been totally worth it - and then some!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 22 January, 2015, 02:52:23 pm
Probably won't get any beyond the introductory offer.


Why?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: briantm on 22 January, 2015, 02:59:40 pm
Probably won't get any beyond the introductory offer.


Why?

Because I'm broke  :'( and have some of the stories in other formats.

Btw... for people checkin in about where it's available... I looked in a few places around Swansea yesterday but couldn't find it.

Got it in the market newsagents today and I would guess WH Smiths have it in now too.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: briantm on 22 January, 2015, 03:02:36 pm
I really like the cover designs. Minimalist with nice font choices. Unfortunately the spot red isn't very red on my book. It has a slightly wan tone to it; almost pinky. A tiny complaint that only the pedantic among us will even notice.
(*spelling mistake fixeroo)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 22 January, 2015, 05:12:02 pm
Looks like I'll be doing two extra subscriptions for fellow fans beyond these shores :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 22 January, 2015, 05:21:14 pm
And after much umming and ahhing I bought my copy of the first issue today.
Everything looks quite lovely, though ive not had chance to open her up, as yet.

(http://i.imgur.com/AOzb0yg.jpg)

And I found £2.00 about five minutes after buying it, so this one has cost me nowt.


Now, I only need to find in the gutter, the remaining £798.00 needed to complete the collection....
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 22 January, 2015, 05:43:03 pm
You only need to find £1 each day for the next 3 years or so, and you can have the weekends off.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 22 January, 2015, 05:44:30 pm
That £2 was mine and you know it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grugz on 22 January, 2015, 06:46:58 pm
none in Tesco Leyland though they did have the prog (in the kiddies section ) and the magazine so its off to preston or chorley tomoz probably
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: SIP on 22 January, 2015, 09:38:28 pm
Picked up the first issue. It's a very nice book indeed.  I'm impressed!  Can't afford to subscribe but will certainly be picking a few up along the way.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: amines2058 on 22 January, 2015, 09:48:49 pm
Mission accomplished. Two copies purchased one for me and one for my boy from my local one stop shop (which I did not know existed until I found out they were selling this! ) :-[
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 23 January, 2015, 12:07:37 pm
Really looking forward to seeing the volumes about Dredd's extended universe - I'm hoping the old wally squad stories (Brett Ewins?) will be thematically packaged with dirty franks tales. I'm wondering if the Dredd / batman / aliens stuff is unlikely to be reprinted for copyright reasons - and the Dredd movie world stuff just doesn't fit in.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Goosegash on 23 January, 2015, 01:45:07 pm
Didn't see any sign of this in WH Smiths Luton today. They also seem to've stopped carrying the weekly as well(although the Megazine was still there).  :'(

I can now report the weekly is back and the Mega Collection is in stock. Phew!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 23 January, 2015, 03:34:35 pm
S'worth reflecting on the decision to lead with America in Volume 1.  Okay, you and I know that it's a classic storyline, but it could so easily have been Judge Death, or The Cursed Earth, or any other endlessly reprinted Bolland-led nostalgia fest for 40-somethings. I'd have been hard-pressed to even find the few quid for Vol 1 if that had been the case (I may have bought America four times now, but at least it's not an even dozen...). 

It think it speaks well of the involvement of Matt, Molcher and the gang that they are putting 'modern' Dredd (in the very real sense that the term applies to a 25 year old story) forward as the entry point, rather than depending on the usual 'I copied that for art class when I was 10' goodwill that 2000AD may have traded on in days gone by.

There are also some useful points of similarity between the story and Dredd 3D, such as Dredd and Beeny's partnership in 'Cadet', which will be familiar to the interested fan of the movie, right down the door-blowing drug-bust scene in both. 

It's a job well done, chaps.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 23 January, 2015, 03:39:48 pm
Totally agree - and I'm glad to see Origins is coming too!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin YNWA on 23 January, 2015, 04:04:11 pm
... very real sense that the term applies to a 25 year old story...

Please don't ever, ever say America is 25 years old again please. JUST STOP IT NOW!


Christ I feel so old...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 23 January, 2015, 04:28:20 pm
... very real sense that the term applies to a 25 year old story...

Please don't ever, ever say America is 25 years old again please. JUST STOP IT NOW!


Christ I feel so old...

Yeah I did some counting on my fingers to make sure I had that right.  A quick glance at my decaying features in the supposedly non-reflective screen confirmed my arithmetic. 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: maryanddavid on 23 January, 2015, 04:54:35 pm
Picked it up today (2 actually one for my brother who is an occasional Squaxx) along with 2KAD and the Meg. I have not opened it yet, but it looks great. The shop had it on display in the middle of their front window, beans on one side and corn flakes on the other, looked great!  Its one of these old fashioned grocery shops that you don't see often now, busy spot though it has everything!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 January, 2015, 05:19:18 pm
Just saw the advert on the telly, rather than the net. Anyone else caught it on the telly yet?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 23 January, 2015, 05:22:09 pm
Just saw the advert on the telly, rather than the net. Anyone else caught it on the telly yet?

Did you take the week off just to watch every ad break waiting for it?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 23 January, 2015, 06:00:32 pm
Do you really need to ask?  ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 23 January, 2015, 06:20:15 pm
I've been waiting to see the advert but no sign of it.then it turns up in the ads between a movie I recorded.seems to be going out after 6pm.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 January, 2015, 06:49:47 pm
Just on again in the ITN News break :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 23 January, 2015, 07:39:09 pm
Just on again in the ITN News break :D

I think your wife is doing an ad break supercuts just to keep you happy.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 23 January, 2015, 07:42:44 pm
I've been waiting to see the advert but no sign of it.then it turns up in the ads between a movie I recorded.seems to be going out after 6pm.

I saw it Wednesday about 10.30 in the morning.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 23 January, 2015, 08:03:11 pm
I saw it on the telly. It's so great to see your favourite character make an appearance on the box, eh?

A few work colleagues saw it on telly too, which they proudly announced to me shortly before I bought them an issue one each as a reward for keeping me updated with such Zarjaz news.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Echidna on 23 January, 2015, 09:13:43 pm
It was on in the middle of The Big Bang Theory on E4 on Tuesday night. It's not often I fast-forward through a show and just watch the ads, but I had a hunch...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mardroid on 23 January, 2015, 10:53:44 pm
I've seen it twice on the Lifetime channel this evening.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: M.I.K. on 23 January, 2015, 11:13:49 pm
It's popping up on numerous channels at various times of day. I think it's safe to say that it's already the most televisually advertised 2000 AD related publication ever.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tiplodocus on 24 January, 2015, 09:28:55 am
Picked number one up from the local newsagent and am very impressed. Will recommend it to others. (I will stick with Case Files though as I can't afford to double up plus I like things in order.).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Proudhuff on 24 January, 2015, 11:39:35 am
FP i n Edinbra unsue if when getting it.Is it a comic or a collectible different suppliers see? Meanwhile no sign in local shops andsupermarkets :o
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 24 January, 2015, 12:46:59 pm
Where I have seen it in Leeds:
OK Comics
WHS
Post OPffice in Yeadon

Good possibility:
Newsagent in Bus Station, they get most of this kind of thing for first 4 or 5 issues.

I've been told Morrisons are stocking it but not been in any to check yet.

I'll go on a wander after 16:00 (working OT at the moment) and check more places in Leeds.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 24 January, 2015, 03:29:13 pm
Two in Fleet's Martins. (No idea about WHSmith.) Well, one now, because I bought one, even thought I subbed. I figure I'll send one on to a US comics-loving friend.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grugz on 24 January, 2015, 06:57:02 pm
got mine today in preston!  nice stuff indeed!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Timothy on 24 January, 2015, 07:16:48 pm
Where I have seen it in Leeds:
OK Comics
WHS
Post OPffice in Yeadon

Good possibility:
Newsagent in Bus Station, they get most of this kind of thing for first 4 or 5 issues.

I've been told Morrisons are stocking it but not been in any to check yet.

I'll go on a wander after 16:00 (working OT at the moment) and check more places in Leeds.

Pollards at Moortown corner had it on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin Zeal on 24 January, 2015, 09:17:11 pm
Picked up a copy in local newsagents in Stamford hill in London. Nothing in the morrisons across the road from there though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 24 January, 2015, 10:49:24 pm
I had a tour of Paisley - none in Tesco, Morrisons or WH Smiths. Hopefully just delayed by the weather. They did however have piles of partworks including the Falcon, a 3D globe, 3D printer, gem stones and , rather creepily - dead bugs - Crane-flies this week!

Paisley‘s main/only W H Smith's did carry it, lots on display. But NOT with the other partworks, daftly in a large display of its own at the door. Not the wisest approach, I nearly missed it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Magnetica on 25 January, 2015, 07:16:01 pm
I could n't find it in the WH Smith's I normally buy my Prog and Meg in (Ealing Broadway tube station).

Then looked for at in WH Smith's in Elephant and Castle and London Bridge stations, and a Co-Op and another WHS in Southwark , all with no joy. Was surprised about E&C as they usually have loads of Progs and Megs and a fair selection of other comics (mainly Marvel / DC) but not London Bridge or the other WHS & Co-op as they don't even carry the Prog.

I then ordered nos 1 and 2 directly by phoning the number on the Mega Collection Web site - which was great - no postage and packing.

On my way home on Friday I then checked out the main WH Smiths in Ealing Broadway and couldn't see it where they have the Prog and the Meg and was about to leave when I saw they had it on a separate display on the side. (Which makes me wonder if I just missed it at Elephant and Castle). I then bought it anyway despite having ordered it - I did getting the backing board that way. Think I will give the spare copy to my brother in an attempt to get him back in the fold.

I think I will get my wife to read America. She doesn't like comics or anything si-fi really at all but America is just so good...

I don't think I will buy it regularly as I have every Meg and every Prog from 127 onwards anyway and only buy a really small set of reprints (e.g. I am getting Zenith and the daily Dredd, got the Mek Files hardback for the colour spreads I missed). I will though buy the Pit and Tour of Duty (assuming they cover those).


Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 25 January, 2015, 07:56:30 pm
It wouldn't be with the Prog & Meg as it is a Partwork and WHS have a separate are for those.

My walk around Leeds still showed only OK Comics & WHS as stocking them. I saw no sign in Travelling Man or Forbidden Planet. Nothing in Morrisons despite someone telling me they 'might' have it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Satanist on 26 January, 2015, 01:16:12 pm
I finally got it in a wee newsagent outside Glasgow Central.

Tried 2 WHS, FP and a few other newsies. It is luverley and Im gonna get my local shop (for local people) to order it in.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 26 January, 2015, 04:18:25 pm
The Mega collection replied regarding the spreads and the banned cursed earth episodes -


"I'm afraid that they will still be in black and white and the cursed earth stories you mentioned won't be reprinted in this series.

Hope this helps!"

 :'(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 26 January, 2015, 07:00:02 pm
On a similar note when asked if the Dredd / batman / alien crossovers could be included...
   
Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection   26 January 16:06
Hi Rob,

I'm afraid these crossovers won't be in this collection.

Thank you.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 26 January, 2015, 08:14:20 pm
No surprises there—that'd be a licensing nightmare. It'll be interesting to see whether the Aliens one makes it into the Case Files.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Proudhuff on 28 January, 2015, 02:17:20 pm
Anyone spotted this in Edinbra yet?

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 28 January, 2015, 02:43:36 pm
Found it at the Smiths in Waterloo - they have loads of them.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 29 January, 2015, 12:32:53 am
Interest in this has been very high on my Blog.

The first article I wrote about it, 11th December 2014, it has reached 8th in my ALL time most read articles. It has knocked my Spoilers review of Judge Minty down a slot. NOTHING from 2014 is above it. I(n gact the 'newest' article above it is from June 2013.

That's a HUGE jump for a pretty recent article. Things creep up towards that top 10.

Oh and it is 5th on my Clicks OUT of my Blog. Clicks out are rarer obviously so less of a surprise actually.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: J.Smith on 29 January, 2015, 12:35:49 am
Interest in this has been very high on my Blog, et cetera.

Yeah, I've been glad to see that on the few threads I visit regularly on Comic Book Resources's forums there's people asking after it. Fingers crossed that its success will continue past the first few cheap volumes and can launch internationally!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 29 January, 2015, 10:28:46 am
I have previewed Mechanismo. http://judgetutorsemple.wordpress.com/2015/01/28/judge-dredd-mega-collection-issue-2-4th-february-2015-includes-preview-pages/

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: 303 on 29 January, 2015, 06:19:51 pm
I bought a copy of the first one in Spire News, Chesterfield this week, and I'm impressed, a good solid hardback nice glossy pages.

I'll be buying Mechismo next week, but after that I'll be selective as I'm midway through the Complete Case files. I'll certainly be keeping my eye out for the spin-off Dreddworld stories like Lowlife.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Proudhuff on 30 January, 2015, 12:38:35 pm
Anyone spotted this in Edinbra yet?

if anyone's cares or is still looking: FP can't get their heads round supplying this, however the nice chap there suggested RS McColls in Nicholson sq and the nice camp chap in there delivered the goods with a cheery Enjoy! Carrying it around town was a bit like having one of those 'End is Nigh' boards: the odd smirk or a knowing nod from passersby while the rest looked slightly embarrassed on my behalf.

So for our Jock readers RS McColls can supply!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Magnetica on 30 January, 2015, 05:47:27 pm
Found it at the Smiths in Waterloo - they have loads of them.

Wow - I can't even find the Prog or Meg there. They also didn't seem to have the Summer or Winter Specials, so surprised at that - but that's great. I would buy it there if they stocked it (not that I am going buy it regularly).

Out of interest which Smith's was it? (There are at least two).

Whilst I am at it - you said you have confirmation that the centre spread in the Cursed Earth will be in black and white - that is disappointing as I would buy it if it was in colour. I ask because some one else posted photo of a questionnaire asking what stories they would buy and it said "Cursed Earth in B&W and colour.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 30 January, 2015, 06:06:25 pm
Was interested to note that Easons in Blanchardstown had sold out of Part 1, something that few other partworks could claim, and unusually only had a single Prog left on the shelf on Thursday (reduced to none after my visit).  Interesting times!
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: James Stacey on 30 January, 2015, 10:47:17 pm
I mailed Hachette to see if they had a list of upcomings ( the marvel one was sent out on request shortly after the start of the series ) but they say they have no list of what's upcoming. Might be tricky for them to print it if that's the case :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 30 January, 2015, 10:56:20 pm
Please don't post the list - where's the fun in that? I want a surprise each fortnight. Can anyone who subscribed to the Marvel series explain when we'll receive the books? Is it the same time as the shops or later? And they arrive in pairs?
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 31 January, 2015, 07:44:31 am
...but they say they have no list of what's upcoming.

And yet previews of Mechanismo show it labelled as Vol 24.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: user2000 on 31 January, 2015, 08:27:44 am
Please don't post the list - where's the fun in that? I want a surprise each fortnight. Can anyone who subscribed to the Marvel series explain when we'll receive the books? Is it the same time as the shops or later? And they arrive in pairs?

When I was taking the Marvel collection (up to the original 60th volume only  ::) ) then you got two at a time, but you had to wait until the second volume had been released before you got them.

In other words you will sort of be a fortnight behind every month, if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 31 January, 2015, 10:56:38 am
Thanks - that's great.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Echidna on 31 January, 2015, 12:44:35 pm
Whilst I am at it - you said you have confirmation that the centre spread in the Cursed Earth will be in black and white - that is disappointing as I would buy it if it was in colour. I ask because some one else posted photo of a questionnaire asking what stories they would buy and it said "Cursed Earth in B&W and colour.

I think you mean this (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,41090.msg852879.html#msg852879)... I'd be disappointed too; without colour spreads The Cursed Earth and Apocalypse War wouldn't have much to recommend them over the Case Files editions. Then again, the spreads in the Case Files lose a lot of information in the gutter, so I'll be interested to see if the Mega Collection is better in that respect.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 31 January, 2015, 02:28:13 pm
Personally speaking, I wouldn't mind if they had a list, and could supply it. If only to confirm my suspicion that the ones im really looking forward to getting, will be out towards the end of the run...

I'm not that fussed about having the DPS's in colour, for - say, the Cursed Earth, or Apocalypse War. Sure, we've all bought and re-bought them a bunch of times, so it would be nice, but its not a deal breaker for me.
Hopefully, they'll have some decent 'extra's' included to make them different enough from previous editions.

And talking about extra's - I suspect the Day of Chaos issue (Which I hope is ALL in one volume, and features ONLY the MacNeil drawn direct prequel - alongside the main story, AND includes the DoC episode written by Michael Carroll...) may include pencil pages by Leigh Gallagher?

Leigh was good enough to send me scans of the pencils for some pages I bought from him, and something looking very similar to these appears to be on the website for the Dredd collection under the 'extra content' section.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Frank on 31 January, 2015, 03:00:52 pm
I suspect the Day of Chaos issue (Which I hope is ALL in one volume, and features ONLY the MacNeil drawn direct prequel - alongside the main story, AND includes the DoC episode written by Michael Carroll...) may include pencil pages by Leigh Gallagher?

Pye Parr told Michael Carroll (https://www.facebook.com/michael.owen.carroll/posts/10152716955442685?pnref=story) that his Day Of Chaos aftermath story, Debris (art by PJ Holden) is in volume 6. Make of that what you will.


Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Magnetica on 31 January, 2015, 04:01:16 pm
Thanks Echidna I did mean that.

For me the colour centre spreads for the Cursed Earth is a deal breaker - shock horror I don't have the Progs it was in, but I do have the Titan reprints from way back. They are great and from memory don't suffer from the same difficulty in reading the bits in the middle of the centre spread as case files do. But they are in black and white.

So if the Cursed Earth was done with colour centre spreads I would buy it just for that, just like I got the Mek Files Volume 1 just for the handful of colour spreads I missed in the Progs even though I have the b/w Titan voume already.

If it is black and white I will pass. Don't really understand what the difficulty in re-producing them is, 
but then again I am not in publishing.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 31 January, 2015, 04:18:41 pm
I suspect the Day of Chaos issue (Which I hope is ALL in one volume, and features ONLY the MacNeil drawn direct prequel - alongside the main story, AND includes the DoC episode written by Michael Carroll...) may include pencil pages by Leigh Gallagher?

Pye Parr told Michael Carroll (https://www.facebook.com/michael.owen.carroll/posts/10152716955442685?pnref=story) that his Day Of Chaos aftermath story, Debris (art by PJ Holden) is in volume 6. Make of that what you will.

Volume 6 will either deal with the aftermath of the DoC - get those Meg tales I havent read in there Hatchette!, or it'll be a collection of tales that have randomly included celebrity named block's in them over the years...?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 31 January, 2015, 09:12:46 pm
Coming in on this from a low knowlege base. We met up in Belfast today and Judge Russell brought along vol 1. It is a delight to behold. I particularly loved the addition of one of my fav Dredd stories 'Firepower'.
I can see the attraction for people cursorarly picking up vol 1 in a newsagents. I wish the developers all of the very best. I just hope the £10 per fortnight isn't just a wee bit too much. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richard on 31 January, 2015, 10:17:03 pm
The colour centre spreads from the 1970s and early 80s are not worth reprinting in colour to be honest. I don't know what the fuss is about. The colour didn't get good until after prog 500.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Frank on 31 January, 2015, 10:27:33 pm

(http://i.imgur.com/UtBlYSl.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: user2000 on 31 January, 2015, 10:28:39 pm
The colour centre spreads from the 1970s and early 80s are not worth reprinting in colour to be honest. I don't know what the fuss is about. The colour didn't get good until after prog 500.

The point for me is just the fact that they WERE presented in colour originally.  Much nicer reading the ABC Warriors collection with the original centre spreads presented in colour, just looks, and feels, much nicer.

Should be done with this so called "mega" collection.

Exactly my point Butch, just as I was typing!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: user2000 on 31 January, 2015, 10:31:45 pm

(http://i.imgur.com/UtBlYSl.jpg?1)

Just looked at that spread in the case files and it looks rubbish in comparison to the original.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 31 January, 2015, 10:38:40 pm
I bought the first 5 Strontium Dog S D Agency files years ago and they were pish compared to the old Titan single release. There were no colour inserts in the first 4 files and the McNeil end to file 5 was the only colour. When I contrast that with what I saw today, it is day and night. Z
That is a fantastic colour spread Butch btw.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Magnetica on 31 January, 2015, 11:54:48 pm


The point for me is just the fact that they WERE presented in colour originally.  Much nicer reading the ABC Warriors collection with the original centre spreads presented in colour, just looks, and feels, much nicer.

Should be done with this so called "mega" collection.


Yes absolutely. That's why I want them. If you haven't seen them in colour you have n't seen them. Doesn't matter if later printing was better. Indeed you could say the paper was worse prior to Prog 500, but really that doesn't matter.

Oh and thanks for putting that shot up sauchie.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 01 February, 2015, 12:56:16 am
I suspect the Day of Chaos issue (Which I hope is ALL in one volume, and features ONLY the MacNeil drawn direct prequel - alongside the main story, AND includes the DoC episode written by Michael Carroll...) may include pencil pages by Leigh Gallagher?

Pye Parr told Michael Carroll (https://www.facebook.com/michael.owen.carroll/posts/10152716955442685?pnref=story) that his Day Of Chaos aftermath story, Debris (art by PJ Holden) is in volume 6. Make of that what you will.

Is debris the one where the man travels up a city block in a gravity chute with massive man crushing boulders and doesn't get a scratch?

Volume 6 will either deal with the aftermath of the DoC - get those Meg tales I havent read in there Hatchette!, or it'll be a collection of tales that have randomly included celebrity named block's in them over the years...?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 01 February, 2015, 01:00:39 am
The colour centre spreads from the 1970s and early 80s are not worth reprinting in colour to be honest. I don't know what the fuss is about. The colour didn't get good until after prog 500.

Mental.

Seriously. Oz colour spreads where some of the best ever -Dillons Chopper over the ocean, McCarthy's birdmen, Will Simpsons 'finale' at Uluruh... Amazing stuff.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 01 February, 2015, 10:08:34 am
Is debris the one where the man travels up a city block in a gravity chute with massive man crushing boulders and doesn't get a scratch?

Nope, it's the one where the man is badly injured, ends up in hospital, and then in rehab, as addressed in a subsequent 2-part story.

Also, Richard, you should have gone to Specsavers.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 01 February, 2015, 11:21:00 am
The colour spread thing - I wonder what the options are for reproducing it?

Do the films exist for centre spreads with the overlays, like Steve Cook has for some covers?

Would people rather see them as they appeared, with iffy alignment?

Or would a perfect representation of how they could have looked be the preferred option?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 01 February, 2015, 01:08:30 pm
Gotta be iffy alignment. Iffy alignment for the win!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 01 February, 2015, 01:36:26 pm
Do a demonstration of both and then decide. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Magnetica on 01 February, 2015, 05:12:27 pm
I'm all for having them as close to the originals as possible. I don't want them artificially"improved".

I have some early Dredd's in original Prog form and collected editions where they have changed the colours to something else and to me that makes no sense. I (personal opinion) have zero interest in colours that aren't as per the original Progs.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 01 February, 2015, 05:56:54 pm
The argument there being what was the original intention?

Take this cover by Cam - you can see the colour from the blue of the uniform loosely overlaps the black ink.

(http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/2000AD463.jpg)


Would the original intention have been to have had more solid blacks, given the option and possibly better stock?

Since any new versions would not be on the same stock, I'm not sure whether a purist 'this is how it looked', where you're already compromising the feel of the paper is better or worse than something struck from the original separations (if available)

You're already seeing through the page on this to the inside cover - should that be reproduced as well?

I'm just curious what people prefer, and why.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richard on 01 February, 2015, 06:31:07 pm
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Mental. Seriously. Oz colour spreads where some of the best ever...

Er, Oz was in progs 545 to 570, which is chronologically and mathematically AFTER prog 500.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 01 February, 2015, 06:34:29 pm
Well my immediate reaction to that is 'sweet cheeses, that Cam Kennedy draws like some magnificent god'.  My second reaction is 'whatever looks best'. As Steve says, the CFs are no longer printed on stapled bog-paper anyway, so they can never be a replica of the aesthetics of the original comic as produced.  That being the case, make the content as close to the original intention as possible.  As long as they leave the Next Progs, Logos, Titles and Thargnotes in I'm happy.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 01 February, 2015, 06:39:44 pm
Well my immediate reaction to that is 'sweet cheeses, that Cam Kennedy draws like some magnificent god'.

Kennedy just ruled Dredd during this period — I was more excited to open the prog and find Cam on Dredd in that 400s/500s stint than I was to see a Bolland Dredd back in the 100s/200s.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 01 February, 2015, 06:47:07 pm
The depth of his work on low-key stuff like The Falucci Tape and Sunday Night Fever is spectacular, but the one I keep coming back to is The Warlord. How he can make something as totally daft as 12ft-tall Samurai and their borderline-racist wily oriental mystic boss so absolutely real and quite terrifying is still beyond me. 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richard on 01 February, 2015, 06:47:45 pm
Cam Kennedy hasn't drawn Dredd since 2006. It would be nice to have him back again.

And Bolland too -- and not just a cover, but a strip.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 01 February, 2015, 06:55:46 pm
Cam's eyesight unfortunately makes him unable to return to the prog.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/comics/news/a403660/judge-dredd-artist-reveals-failing-eyesight.html#~p34eB7wx50L9wt (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/comics/news/a403660/judge-dredd-artist-reveals-failing-eyesight.html#~p34eB7wx50L9wt)

His contribution to the strip is immense.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richard on 01 February, 2015, 06:57:58 pm
That's a damn shame. Poor guy.

On the other subject, Dash Decent found this the other day:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Judge-Dredd-Casefiles-John-Wagner/dp/1781083320

A 10th anniversary reprint of Case Files 1 with colour centre spreads.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 01 February, 2015, 07:09:18 pm
Cool - I look forward to seeing that.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 01 February, 2015, 08:41:31 pm
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Mental. Seriously. Oz colour spreads where some of the best ever...

Er, Oz was in progs 545 to 570, which is chronologically and mathematically AFTER prog 500.

OZ was 2 pages colour, 4 pages B&W, meaning, a la The Casefiles, it will be reprinted in greyscale-colour. It was only an illustrative example of the many good colour spreads before Dredd turned all colour.

Sorry to disabuse you of your snark.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richard on 01 February, 2015, 09:34:55 pm
I don't understand what you are trying to say.

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OZ was 2 pages colour, 4 pages B&W...

Yes, I know. I was talking about colour centre spreads (and so was everyone else).

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it will be reprinted in greyscale-colour.

Will it? The whole debate was about whether they will/should be reprinted in the original colour.

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It was only an illustrative example of the many good colour spreads before Dredd turned all colour.

Yes and I agree with you that Oz was coloured in well, which is why I used prog 500 as a cut-off point.

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Sorry to disabuse you of your snark.

It's the Internet. The whole reason Tim Berners-Lee invented it in the first place was to facilitate sarcasm.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 01 February, 2015, 09:50:07 pm
I love this place.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 01 February, 2015, 09:50:48 pm
Just seen the advert on ITV4. Looks good. The Kennedy colour spread is fine. If there is an issue with quality, just colour enhance whilst maintaining the integrity. They surley can't be mutually exclusive. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 01 February, 2015, 09:52:00 pm

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it will be reprinted in greyscale-colour.

Will it? The whole debate was about whether they will/should be reprinted in the original colour.


According to multiple correspondence cited on this forum, yes it will.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: SuperSurfer on 01 February, 2015, 10:23:28 pm
I picked up issue 1 last week, unwrapped it today and read about two thirds. What a damn good book.

TBH I wasn't sure if I was going to buy it due to a problem common amongst us quadragenarians: space. But the price did the trick. Good tactics.   

Having just bought the prog and the Meg I did a u-turn back into the thrill merchants in Crouch End, London to look for it. Was craftily hidden under the bottom shelf. I wouldn't have seen it if I wasn't looking for it. Not good Mr Thrill Merchant.

WHSmiths seem to be displaying it very prominently. I noticed last week there was one left in the Kings Cross station branch. Nicely positioned in view as soon as one walks in. Had a stand all to itself in WHSmiths Enfield Town.

I showed issue 1 to my brother who as a result bought it. That's a result as he hasn't bought an issue of 2000AD since the 80s.

I do prefer colour spreads. But I can't see how any of the original colour spreads can be printed as nature intended. What would the aim be?
• To print them as they appeared on original newsprint?
• To print them to look like the original artwork ie the colour separations that Steve Cook holds?
(I see Steve G just asked more or less the same).
Surely the originals were painted using more vivid colours with the expectation that they would be dulled by the paper stock (as was the case with US comics).
• Or should original separations be scanned then adjusted to match printed copies. No doubt there won't be enough originals around and consistency would be important.

Not easy. Anyway, having said all that the end result in the recent ABC Warriors book was fab.

I will buy issue 2 as the start of Mechanismo was published during my wilderness years and I am way behind with Case Files, then I'll take it from there.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Magnetica on 01 February, 2015, 10:44:20 pm
Just seen the advert on ITV4. Looks good.

I saw the ad at half time during the Chelsea - Liverpool league cup semi-final on Sky Sports last week, which was most unexpected. Indeed one could argue that was the most exciting part of the whole match. :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Silent_Bomber on 02 February, 2015, 01:13:34 pm
Took a while to find it in my local W.H.Smith, not with the comics, not with the part-works either, it was on the back of a stand in the corner of the shop facing the wall, considered moving it somewhere more prominent myself

My local newsagent also has it, top shelf next to the porn lol

In regards to the colour pages, the one I will be really disappointment about being in B&W will be Oz.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 02 February, 2015, 03:05:15 pm
Just got my sub copies and they are lovely bits of design and craftsmanship
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: NSFTM on 02 February, 2015, 03:30:33 pm
Got the.next.2 in the post along with the badge, my lass opened it , she says the badge looks a bit cheap... Books are excellent through
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: user2000 on 02 February, 2015, 03:51:27 pm
Got the.next.2 in the post along with the badge, my lass opened it , she says the badge looks a bit cheap... Books are excellent through

Cool, I hope this means that they are sending the second volume out in advance instead of making you wait until it was released in the shops before getting two at a time as they did with my Marvel collection!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Keef Monkey on 02 February, 2015, 04:14:01 pm
Wound up buying this, told myself I wouldn't because I had the stories elsewhere but it looked so glorious on the shelf that I had to have it immediately.

It's a very nice package, love the way the stories have been collected together thematically (having Cadet bundled with America and Fading of The Light is awesome) and it's a great quality book. I won't be subscribing (although I'm very tempted, but space is an issue), it's a fantastic series for someone who doesn't own this stuff and is maybe just getting into Dredd though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 02 February, 2015, 04:14:11 pm
Got the.next.2 in the post along with the badge, my lass opened it , she says the badge looks a bit cheap... Books are excellent through

Cool, I hope this means that they are sending the second volume out in advance instead of making you wait until it was released in the shops before getting two at a time as they did with my Marvel collection!

Lots of people on my Twitter timeline posting pictures of the volumes and badge (and coffee holder if you subbed online).

Badge looks ok in the pics.

It does appear that subbers will be one book in advance of the newsagents, which is good.

Hope to get mine in the post tomorrow.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 02 February, 2015, 04:48:42 pm
I suspect it might also depend when you subscribed. People here are talking about getting issues two and three; I got issue one this morning, and I know others are still waiting for issue one.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 02 February, 2015, 05:19:18 pm
I suspect it might also depend when you subscribed. People here are talking about getting issues two and three; I got issue one this morning, and I know others are still waiting for issue one.

Subbed when it was still in it's trial format but there are people on my timeline on Twitter who bought the first issue from a newsie and subbed 11 days ago that got issues 2 & 3.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 02 February, 2015, 05:25:03 pm
Seems to be plenty of interest in this. 2 guys at work whom l thought had zero interest in comics have ordered. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Molch-R on 02 February, 2015, 05:40:05 pm
It's worth noting that to keep P&P free for the whole collection, lots of orders are sent out in batches - so it's not like ordering from Amazon or subscribing to the Prog.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 02 February, 2015, 05:42:51 pm
Seems to be plenty of interest in this. 2 guys at work whom l thought had zero interest in comics have ordered.

"For feck's sake Arcade, we've ordered the bloody thing, okay? Now leave us alone and shut the hell up about it".
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 02 February, 2015, 05:48:16 pm
Now are you definitely sure?? If you're not I'll post again! Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 02 February, 2015, 05:53:35 pm
Read 'America' and 'Fading of the Light' last night and was blown away by them. Had only read 'America' before and - sacrilege I know - my only previous read was back at original publication. I enjoyed it then but it has affected me more now... I must be a soppy old scrote (or it seems less fanciful given the way the world has gone recently).

Most of this volume I don't have, so a required purchase. Believe the Hype  :)
Now plan a re-read of Mechanismo and The Apocalypse War shortly, seems apt somehow. For shame I doubt these have been read more than once. Long overdue. I know, I know...

Oh, and Craddock's colours are fine?!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 02 February, 2015, 06:04:07 pm
Now are you definitely sure?? If you're not I'll post again! Z

I'd post it again. Just to be sure.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 02 February, 2015, 06:07:34 pm
Oh, and Craddock's colours are fine?!

It was noted a few pages back that the colours appear to have been tweaked to make 'em a little less hard on the eyes.

Edit: No, it wasn't, and it doesn't seem to be on the other thread about the collection, either. I must be losing the plot.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 02 February, 2015, 06:18:27 pm
Now are you definitely sure?? If you're not I'll post again! Z

Just to be clear, I was making a weak joke about the likely motivations of your work colleagues - not your posting in this thread set aside for that very purpose! 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 02 February, 2015, 06:27:06 pm
The strange thing is it wasn't my incessant nagging (though I am quite good at single minded pestering). I really only cottoned on to this at the weekend at our discussion group....they actually did it of their own bat. Before I got to them, curses. Z
So anyway....now Tordel are you sure you're sure you've ordered it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 02 February, 2015, 06:54:28 pm
I don't suppose anyone grabbed an extra copy of this? I can't find it anywhere near me!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: esoteric ed on 02 February, 2015, 07:00:21 pm
Nice to come home to today  :)

Ed
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 02 February, 2015, 07:02:34 pm
Any newsagent should be able to order one for you - it's how I got mine.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Silent_Bomber on 03 February, 2015, 12:45:13 am
What's the quality of the reprint like in comparison to this one? -

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc1/jesusarnold/amer.png~original)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 03 February, 2015, 12:48:03 am
It's absolutely fantastic.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Silent_Bomber on 03 February, 2015, 01:14:26 am
It's absolutely fantastic.

I was mainly wondering because I found an older Devlin Waugh trade from 1993 in a book shop the other day and I really like the size of the thing (I'm taking it for granted the America trade I posted is of similar dimensions?).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 03 February, 2015, 02:05:32 am
What's the quality of the reprint like in comparison to this one? -

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc1/jesusarnold/amer.png~original)


The Mega Collection is a lovely book but the painted work is represented far better in the earlier reprint. It is larger and a greater subtlety of colour is present.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: James Stacey on 03 February, 2015, 09:19:27 am
Edit: No, it wasn't, and it doesn't seem to be on the other thread about the collection, either. I must be losing the plot.

Cheers

Jim
I've seen it mentioned by someone on facebook so maybe it was there.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 03 February, 2015, 09:37:29 am
The Mega Collection is a lovely book but the painted work is represented far better in the earlier reprint. It is larger and a greater subtlety of colour is present.

True enough. The matt finish means the painted art is fractionally duller, and somewhat smaller than in the most recent Rebellion edition. I won't be binning my earlier version quite yet, but the Hachette volume completely trumps it in terms of content, with the essential 'America 3.5' that is Judgement Call, and three more great MacNeil stories including Wagner's deft Vienna retcon. Also, lovely cover design and the reassuringly annual-like comfort of hard covers.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 03 February, 2015, 12:16:56 pm
A family member bought me a copy of the first book that I can pick up when I go back to the UK so I thought I'd spread the word and give my Rebellion paperback copy of America to a guy at work who I thought might be into it. What does he do? He listens patiently to my explanation of JD, thanks me sincerely and then ROLLS THE BOOK INTO A TUBE AS IF IT WAS A MAGAZINE FOR READING ON THE BOG.

But he seemed grateful so I couldn't say anything. Now my run of black and red JD spines is poorer and for no good reason.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Daveycandlish on 03 February, 2015, 02:14:09 pm
Beat him over the head with the tube he has made for disrespecting the book!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 03 February, 2015, 02:40:14 pm
Some people don't deserve good things!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 03 February, 2015, 03:28:13 pm
People who don't buy comics have no respect for them.i don't lend anything anymore because they return them tatty dogeared messes.i wouldn't even like to estimate what my collections cost me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 03 February, 2015, 03:38:41 pm
I leant my copy of Origins to my best friend, it came back torn and stained. And I don't even think they had bothered to read it as they could not discuss it in any depth.


My best friend is a dog.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 03 February, 2015, 03:58:12 pm
There's your reason to buy it again in hardback. And mine, let's see him roll that up.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: James Stacey on 03 February, 2015, 04:02:53 pm
I remember lending a gn to a friend who within 3 minutes of me handing it to him had put it on the floor then managed to roll his computer chair over it so it was jammed underneath. Good times.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 03 February, 2015, 04:07:41 pm
I once gave a book to a friend who instantly just swallowed it up!

He was a black hole.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin YNWA on 03 February, 2015, 04:14:18 pm
i wouldn't even like to estimate what my collections cost me.
Christ yeah this I agree with so much. We* must all live in denial and not once, for one moment think about how much we spend on comics as it might make us feel ill and realise we don't need to be mortgaged to the hilt if only we'd developed a cheaper hobby!

* When I type 'we' I of course me I alas!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 03 February, 2015, 04:41:36 pm
You could have that argument to everything including smoking or drinking in the end you have to spend it on something and comics don't cause illness or shortness of breath.Though I do admit to sniffing my copy America way to much. :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Silent_Bomber on 03 February, 2015, 04:43:34 pm

The Mega Collection is a lovely book but the painted work is represented far better in the earlier reprint. It is larger and a greater subtlety of colour is present.

Thanks for the info

I was kinda' hoping for an excuse to go and buy the £1.99 one, but if this is the case I'll probably pick up the older one off Amazon. I like the cover much better (looks like a wraparound?) and I don't actually like "Fading of the Light" tbh, I also own the other stories already and space is becoming a problem for me these days.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 03 February, 2015, 05:46:33 pm
After Origins do we know what is coming out?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 03 February, 2015, 06:06:29 pm

The Mega Collection is a lovely book but the painted work is represented far better in the earlier reprint. It is larger and a greater subtlety of colour is present.

Thanks for the info

I was kinda' hoping for an excuse to go and buy the £1.99 one, but if this is the case I'll probably pick up the older one off Amazon. I like the cover much better (looks like a wraparound?) and I don't actually like "Fading of the Light" tbh, I also own the other stories already and space is becoming a problem for me these days.

Burn him. Burn him now.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 03 February, 2015, 06:07:01 pm
After Origins do we know what is coming out?

More hardback Dredds I imagine.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Frank on 03 February, 2015, 06:35:17 pm

It was this play on the limits of tolerance that impressed me when I first read Wagner's supple, terse story. But now what strikes me most is the story's attack on the way men treat women. America is the most attractive, assertive character in the story and yet she is used by almost every man she comes in contact with. She is beaten up by Judges on a democracy march while pregnant only for the judges to then end the pregnancy because of the foetus's "genetic abnormality". And she is ultimately betrayed by her best friend Benny who then takes the betrayal to another lurid sci-fi level, effectively stealing America's identity.

Wagner continues exploring questions of female agency in a number of subsequent stories gathered in this Hachette edition. And so what we have here is - you might argue - a feminist text. It just comes with big guns.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/arts-ents/books-poetry/graphic-content-a-sense-of-dredd-on-rereading-wagner-and-macneil-s-america.1422871513 (http://www.heraldscotland.com/arts-ents/books-poetry/graphic-content-a-sense-of-dredd-on-rereading-wagner-and-macneil-s-america.1422871513)



Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Teivion on 04 February, 2015, 09:12:15 am
For my sins I actually never knew they did follow ups to America, so having them in the Volume was a surprise to me and  very welcome one - if anything I seemed to enjoy America more reading the follow ups because it gave the story a nice grounding.
Although the original chapter of America was a nice piece on its own I probably didnt read as much in to it as I could have done, taking it at face value as a nice story out of the traitional context of a Judges saga.
The comments Butch posted above are very valid ( we'll pass over the rape scene...) but I felt the additional storylines give the female characters all their power back, and you can almost see that in the way Dredd behaves as he admits his respect to Bennys' daughter.

I am seriously excited to get the next volumes...

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 04 February, 2015, 10:52:30 am
Disappointed that issue 2 is in the shops now and my sub copies of 2 & 3 have yet to materialise  :(

Got a cold and a chest infection and was hoping to curl up under a warm duvet and read these today.

Ah well, I'm a big boy. I can wait they bloody well better turn up tomorrow or I'll throw a proper hissy fit
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Molch-R on 04 February, 2015, 10:55:12 am
Disappointed that issue 2 is in the shops now and my sub copies of 2 & 3 have yet to materialise  :(

Got a cold and a chest infection and was hoping to curl up under a warm duvet and read these today.

Ah well, I'm a big boy. I can wait they bloody well better turn up tomorrow or I'll throw a proper hissy fit

Just to clarify, in order to keep P&P free orders are sent out in big batches from Hachette's warehouse - it's not like the Prog where it has a specific date that all orders go out on so there may be the occasion where books are in shops before you receive yours. However, you'll be getting them two at a time and, as the subscriptions level evens out, they should become more regular.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Silent_Bomber on 04 February, 2015, 11:01:04 am
I seemed to enjoy America more reading the follow ups because it gave the story a nice grounding.

I feel the opposite to be honest, I feel like America was focused, grounded, and concise, it knew what it was trying to say and did it well. Fading of the Light was confused and all over the place.

Making Beeny a Judge was a very good call though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 04 February, 2015, 11:25:02 am
Disappointed that issue 2 is in the shops now and my sub copies of 2 & 3 have yet to materialise  :(

Got a cold and a chest infection and was hoping to curl up under a warm duvet and read these today.

Ah well, I'm a big boy. I can wait they bloody well better turn up tomorrow or I'll throw a proper hissy fit

Just to clarify, in order to keep P&P free orders are sent out in big batches from Hachette's warehouse - it's not like the Prog where it has a specific date that all orders go out on so there may be the occasion where books are in shops before you receive yours. However, you'll be getting them two at a time and, as the subscriptions level evens out, they should become more regular.

Yeah, no worries. The Marvel ones were always 2 weeks behind the shops.

Just eager to get my grubby mitts on them  :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 04 February, 2015, 12:18:32 pm

It was this play on the limits of tolerance that impressed me when I first read Wagner's supple, terse story. But now what strikes me most is the story's attack on the way men treat women. America is the most attractive, assertive character in the story and yet she is used by almost every man she comes in contact with. She is beaten up by Judges on a democracy march while pregnant only for the judges to then end the pregnancy because of the foetus's "genetic abnormality". And she is ultimately betrayed by her best friend Benny who then takes the betrayal to another lurid sci-fi level, effectively stealing America's identity.

Wagner continues exploring questions of female agency in a number of subsequent stories gathered in this Hachette edition. And so what we have here is - you might argue - a feminist text. It just comes with big guns.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/arts-ents/books-poetry/graphic-content-a-sense-of-dredd-on-rereading-wagner-and-macneil-s-america.1422871513 (http://www.heraldscotland.com/arts-ents/books-poetry/graphic-content-a-sense-of-dredd-on-rereading-wagner-and-macneil-s-america.1422871513)


Strangely, reading it this time I really disliked America and felt that she was exploiting Bennett to get what she wanted/further the aims of her terrorist organisation. The back-story of her pregnancy I took with caution as she was an unreliable source of information, I felt like it could have been just to get Bennett on side.

We also have to remember it is told from the point of view as Bennett, and he puts his own spin on the events. Bennett is clearly obsessed with America and is looking for justification for both his and her actions.

The story originally ran in an age where the UK was generally free from the threat of acts of terrorism, and I think the current state of things has probably changed my view of her.

It's a wonderful story!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: I, Cosh on 04 February, 2015, 12:41:22 pm
The story originally ran in an age where the UK was generally free from the threat of acts of terrorism, and I think the current state of things has probably changed my view of her.
Wow!  Bearing in mind that the first issue of the Meg is cover dated 01/10/90, do you really think so? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bombings_during_the_Northern_Ireland_Troubles_and_peace_process)

I would agree that it's the mark of a decent story that it rewards rereading and supports different interpretations but hasn't the satirical point of the Democracy/Total War movement always been the reframing of something which we take for granted as an underground, terrorist movement?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 04 February, 2015, 12:46:05 pm
The story originally ran in an age where the UK was generally free from the threat of acts of terrorism, and I think the current state of things has probably changed my view of her.
Wow!  Bearing in mind that the first issue of the Meg is cover dated 01/10/90, do you really think so? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bombings_during_the_Northern_Ireland_Troubles_and_peace_process)

I would agree that it's the mark of a decent story that it rewards rereading and supports different interpretations but hasn't the satirical point of the Democracy/Total War movement always been the reframing of something which we take for granted as an underground, terrorist movement?

Oops - maybe I meant when originally read it - which would have been about 94.

I can't believe it was in 1990!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Silent_Bomber on 04 February, 2015, 01:05:13 pm
felt that she was exploiting Bennett to get what she wanted/further the aims of her terrorist organisation.
I didn't dislike Ami, but I also felt she was manipulating Bennett, and after her friends had shot him too!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 04 February, 2015, 01:37:25 pm
I'm not sure there's much doubt that Ami is manipulating and using Benny, but at the same time I don't doubt that she's telling the truth.  I've always felt lthat Judge Beeny having a compulsorily-aborted mutant half-sibling is an important point, given what happened when Dredd discovered his mutant relatives.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 04 February, 2015, 01:39:38 pm
It always troubled me as to whether the unborn child was in fact a mutant at all. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 04 February, 2015, 02:36:25 pm
Maybe taken away to be speed-incubated into a cadet. Beeny might not be the first judge of the Jara line...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 04 February, 2015, 04:36:43 pm
Ooh, what if the mutation was psychic ability, and the abducted Psi Judge Jara is already on the streets!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 04 February, 2015, 05:27:17 pm
I can see it now; Judge Jara discovers her/his true heritage... civil war in the Justice Department... Judge Dredd v Judge America...
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I'll get me 'elmet.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 04 February, 2015, 05:43:27 pm
It'd be more your line to start pitching Zarjaz a script, Sharky.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 04 February, 2015, 05:52:00 pm
They don't take Mega-Epics :-(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 04 February, 2015, 05:55:53 pm
Take a leaf from the half-page Apocalypse War in the Daily Dredds!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 04 February, 2015, 06:05:39 pm
Hmmm...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: oshii on 05 February, 2015, 10:13:23 am
On a different note, my copy of Mechanismo says its no 24 on the spine.  That's confused me a bit.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richmond Clements on 05 February, 2015, 10:18:57 am
On a different note, my copy of Mechanismo says its no 24 on the spine.  That's confused me a bit.

Listen to the latest 2000AD Thrillcast and all is explained...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Satanist on 05 February, 2015, 11:36:05 am
On a different note, my copy of Mechanismo says its no 24 on the spine.  That's confused me a bit.

Hachete publish collections out of order so you don't just buy the first 5. It's to piss off the obsessives.

GOTTA CATCH EM ALL!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Albion on 05 February, 2015, 11:53:17 am
Another odd thing they do with the Marvel ones is send me a letter to tell me they are being delivered soon. Seems very unnecessary to me. (This may be because I have them delivered to my work, the letter goes to my home). Are they doing this for the Dredd books?

I opened the most recent one to find a letter saying that payment hadn't been made for three months and they would stop sending them if they arent contacted. I was shocked at this but then noticed the letter was for someone else in West Sussex and my delivery confirmation letter was behind it!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 05 February, 2015, 01:50:43 pm
On a different note, my copy of Mechanismo says its no 24 on the spine.  That's confused me a bit.

Hachete publish collections out of order so you don't just buy the first 5. It's to piss off the obsessives.

GOTTA CATCH EM ALL!

Funnily enough it works the opposite way on me - if they were in order I'd be tempted to get the odd one I wasn't mad about just to keep the numbers consecutive and watch the spine pic grow. As they are basically random numbers, I'm free to cherry pick and undermine the profitability of the venture.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 05 February, 2015, 01:54:30 pm
Hachete publish collections out of order so you don't just buy the first 5. It's to piss off the obsessives.

GOTTA CATCH EM ALL!

Funnily enough it works the opposite way on me - if they were in order I'd be tempted to get the odd one I wasn't mad about just to keep the numbers consecutive and watch the spine pic grow. As they are basically random numbers, I'm free to cherry pick and undermine the profitability of the venture.

Yep. They're going to be random, ill-matching spines whatever I do so no reason not to cherry-pick.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 05 February, 2015, 02:10:07 pm
Although that depends on whether you'll be able to easily access them. Around here, most partworks vanish from newsagents after the first five-to-ten or so.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 05 February, 2015, 02:21:36 pm
Although that depends on whether you'll be able to easily access them. Around here, most partworks vanish from newsagents after the first five-to-ten or so.

Around these parts, no Mega-Collection visible after part 1 (and huge piles of part 1 - WH Smith have moved that display to a less bonkers spot, learned their lesson perhaps).

Which is fine, I'll get the Walter The Wobot volume online...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 February, 2015, 03:51:50 pm
Just confirmed another subscription and the number has jumped a lot higher than I expected, because it couldn't just be added to my subscription ::)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 05 February, 2015, 04:35:44 pm
And the 2nd (or 24th) book now bought. Only another 78 to go - gulp.....

Again, a quick flick through reveals a nice looking book. Though the extra's are quite slight. Consisting of a 'cover's gallery' and a one page interview with Colin.


 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 05 February, 2015, 04:43:35 pm
Although that depends on whether you'll be able to easily access them. Around here, most partworks vanish from newsagents after the first five-to-ten or so.

Ah. Yeah, true. But I simply can't afford to subscribe. Suppose I'll be cherry-picking from E*ay in a few years time.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 05 February, 2015, 04:44:07 pm
It makes sense to release them in a more random order. If they were released in numerical order then, by the looks of the spines, we would have had about five Dark Judges books in a row.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 05 February, 2015, 04:57:02 pm
i could be wrong but I think I read you could buy back issues from Hachette themselves.

I also saw that FP online offered issue 1 so likely they will have subsequent if you act quick enough at the time.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 05 February, 2015, 05:18:59 pm
i could be wrong but I think I read you could buy back issues from Hachette themselves.

I also saw that FP online offered issue 1 so likely they will have subsequent if you act quick enough at the time.

If you check out the back issues available from Hachette for their Marvel series you'll see that many issues are not available.

They are for a certain amount of time and then it's eBay/second hand market for you!

Be warned!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 05 February, 2015, 05:46:35 pm
i could be wrong but I think I read you could buy back issues from Hachette themselves.

If you check out the back issues available from Hachette for their Marvel series you'll see that many issues are not available.

Yeah, looking into it a bit it seems simplicity itself to just buy the relevant back issues from the Hachette website - the only trick being to get the ones you want before they're out of stock!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moly on 05 February, 2015, 06:43:41 pm
Still waiting for mine to be delivered
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 05 February, 2015, 06:53:08 pm
Whilst I sympathise with people who will get jerked around by 'logistical' supply issues; this enterprise is a great thing in that it is about the propaganda fide. I hope Rebellion make a profit (this idea alone deserves credit) but purely as a side effect of the dissemination of the sheer creativity hardwired into this comic. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 05 February, 2015, 07:53:43 pm
I hope they don't get to Issue 68 and then announce it was always supposed to be part of a wider, 160 part series. Don't do that, Tharg, just... don't.
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Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richmond Clements on 05 February, 2015, 07:56:15 pm
You all realise that this isn't actually published by Rebellion, right?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 05 February, 2015, 08:00:02 pm
We do, it seems more handy than Hatchet. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 05 February, 2015, 08:01:46 pm
Pretty sure the Spine design will limit it to 80 issues.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 05 February, 2015, 08:09:33 pm
I'm not too sure, they square pegged Strontium Dog; Rogue Trooper; ABC Warriors/Nemises/Robusters and even Shitester Dexter into Dredd world over the years. Who knows how long the compilation pic could be. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 05 February, 2015, 08:13:11 pm
Indeed. And although I don't want them to pull that trick again, I kinda' do. Just don't sneak it up on us, is all.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Albion on 05 February, 2015, 10:03:09 pm
Pretty sure the Spine design will limit it to 80 issues.

That's what we thought about the Marvel books.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 05 February, 2015, 10:22:19 pm
Am I right in thinking that 80 volumes is about a metre of shelf space, oh Marvel collection nerds and lbrarians? That's a lot more than the average bookcase shelf. Prepare your bespoke shelving solutions squaxx!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 05 February, 2015, 10:34:32 pm
The comic porn threads going to get much bigger.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: NapalmKev on 06 February, 2015, 09:10:27 pm
I've just Subscribed to the Collection (Exclusive Prints, etc).

I've not yet read "America", so I'm really looking forward to it!

Cheers
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 06 February, 2015, 09:21:01 pm
I've been thinking about what might be in the 'Mad City' books of the collection, and I really hope an Otto Sump volume is planned. As far as I know there's never been one, and his final story, Citizen Sump, has never even been reprinted! Pad it out with a load of 'ugly' stories and you've got a little gem of a volume that offers something different to what already exists - as well as a classic life-and-death Mega City fable.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Silent_Bomber on 06 February, 2015, 10:43:38 pm
I've been thinking about what might be in the 'Mad City' books of the collection

I was originally thinking it might be an Oola Blint collection, mainly just because her first appearance was in a story called "Mad City", but I guess with a title like that the collection could be pretty much anything.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 06 February, 2015, 10:55:31 pm
I'm assuming it'll be 'crazy citizen' stories - The 'It Pays to be Mental' guy, Branch Moronians, Fatties, Uglies, Simps, etc.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 06 February, 2015, 11:52:27 pm
It would be nice to know what's coming up after #4 "Origins".
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 07 February, 2015, 12:00:33 am
Shamballa,The Heavy Squads? Or Mandroid.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 07 February, 2015, 09:05:25 am
Got my online subscribers takeaway mug in the post today.

Must say I'm quite impressed with it. From the picture I assumed it was going to be some sort of cardboard or plastic jobby but it's a quite heavy pottery one.

At least I know I will be getting the next two issues and the badge by Wednesday (ish) of next week.

Gives me something to look forward to  :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Judge Olde on 07 February, 2015, 10:20:16 am
I got the (sturdy) mug (flimsy lid) but as already said many other places, no other issue as yet - issue 2 was the main reason I took out my sub  :D

I'd like to know for sure what's lined up for the next few books - Mandroid I know will be along at some point ...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Daveycandlish on 07 February, 2015, 10:25:13 am
I got a red card off the postie this morning while I was out. Curses! I guess it was my mug and books!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 07 February, 2015, 10:53:42 am
Mandroid and Origins were mocked up covers for the soft launch so no reason to think they are actually in bound. Dredd only has so many mega epics and sequal stories so I'd imagine they are going to be spread out after an initial burst to generate subscribers.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 07 February, 2015, 10:57:45 am
Aww I was really looking forward to Mandroid.origins is book four though some previews online were sent the first four books.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 07 February, 2015, 12:21:08 pm
Aww I was really looking forward to Mandroid.origins is book four though some previews online were sent the first four books.

Only speculating like, maybe Mandroid is book 5 but from a publishers point of view your defo front-loading a lot of major tales.

Am hoping we're kept in the dark as to what is coming.. 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 07 February, 2015, 12:46:16 pm
They talk about a few upcoming titles in the thrillcast.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Magnetica on 07 February, 2015, 01:04:48 pm

Only speculating like, maybe Mandroid is book 5 but from a publishers point of view your defo front-loading a lot of major tales.

Am hoping we're kept in the dark as to what is coming..

I wouldn't worry too much about front loading. As far as I am concerned there is a huge amount of fantastic material to keep releasing an absolute classic every (other) issue.

Personally I would be interested in:

The Day the Law Died
The Judge Child
Necropolis
The Pit
Tour of Duty
The Mega Rackets
Luna 1
Trifecta

and that's just off the top of my head.

In fact if they did release these, I might just reconsider my decision to only buy the odd one or two. (It's as much storage as cost).

In fact for the casual purchaser who is cherry picking which ones to buy, it is pretty much essential to know what the next issue contains - given that I am inclined to buy them directly from Hachette rather than rely on availability in the shops, which where I live and work seems to be a little hit and miss and want to make sure I get my order in before they sell out any given issue.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 07 February, 2015, 02:18:30 pm
Only speculating like, maybe Mandroid is book 5 but from a publishers point of view your defo front-loading a lot of major tales.

Hmm. Not sure about that. I wouldn't say Mandroid, Shamballa or The Heavy Squad (presumably Holocaust 12/The Corps) are particularly major stories. You've still got all the mega-epics, all the Dark Judge stories, Low Life, Lenny Zero, Devlin Waugh, Chopper, PJ Maybe, the Bloodline stuff...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 07 February, 2015, 02:20:41 pm
Perfect start to my birthday, the mug arrived and as stated previously, quite a sturdy item. No books but that's no big deal really!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 07 February, 2015, 02:32:57 pm
Happy birthday dude....keep up the good work on the cosplay front. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mardroid on 07 February, 2015, 02:41:27 pm
Got my online subscribers takeaway mug in the post today.

Must say I'm quite impressed with it. From the picture I assumed it was going to be some sort of cardboard or plastic jobby but it's a quite heavy pottery one.

Me too, and my assessment matches yours. A solid thing. It's being christened right now in a coffee shop I speak. Or type if you prefer. If using your thumbs on a phone counts as typing.

I'm still awaiting issues 2 and 3. Okay I already have the test subscription versions... but I'm worried I missed a red card somewhere....(Probably not. Sure they're on the way.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 07 February, 2015, 02:54:35 pm
Dispatch is in blocks, to keep postage down. I only have issue one so far, so you're not alone.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Boo on 07 February, 2015, 03:11:21 pm
I really really hope that PJ Maybe's in the collection somewhere, I know there are new PJ stories which I don't have in the GN and he's one of my favourite characters.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 07 February, 2015, 04:05:40 pm
I really really hope that PJ Maybe's in the collection somewhere, I know there are new PJ stories which I don't have in the GN and he's one of my favourite characters.

Oh yeah! Got to be on the cards. We need a PJ book that goes up to the end of The Gingerbread Man.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 07 February, 2015, 05:11:12 pm
With that Liam Sharp art work, it's gotta be high up the list. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 07 February, 2015, 07:13:18 pm
I've put mug/cup on eBay - hope it finds a more appreciative owner! I'm committed to finding space for these 80 volumes - I'lol keep the bookends but not the rest
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 08 February, 2015, 12:48:11 am
A bit disappointed that 4 posts have passed and no one has pointed out that they have not yet received their issue 1/2/3 etc.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Boo on 08 February, 2015, 10:16:22 am
A bit disappointed that 4 posts have passed and no one has pointed out that they have not yet received their issue 1/2/3 etc.

Why? I mean I haven't received mine yet, but I only subscribed a week ago and it's very clear that it can take up to a month for them to arrive.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 08 February, 2015, 10:28:06 am
Oh internet you tricksy medium you, will you ever learn to reliably communicate sarcasm?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Boo on 08 February, 2015, 10:41:05 am
Oh internet you tricksy medium you, will you ever learn to reliably communicate sarcasm?

Ha! In my defence, I'm only on my first cuppa...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 08 February, 2015, 10:57:08 am
Don't venture on to the Facebook channel. That's packed full of the most entitled cry-babies I've seen in a long time. So many people cancelling subs left, right and centre because they didn't get their book at the same time as some other people or before it hit the stores. Never mind that it's been pointed out books are mailed in pairs (and so you'll be ahead with odd numbers but not even ones); never mind that partworks almost always work this way; never mind that you're getting chunky hardback books mailed to you for free. Oh, and apparently when someone pastes in the same response to 50 people moaning about the same thing, they are a "robot". I despair.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 08 February, 2015, 12:07:01 pm
That's packed full of the most entitled cry-babies I've seen in a long time.

(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/250x250/56289100.jpg)

You have to wonder what's happened to people that so many of us think that way.  It's the same whinefest with eBay sales, regardless of what you put in your description or follow-up communication, there's always someone who files a complaint because they haven't received their €2 item in their log cabin in the Poconos 24 hours after the auction ends.

You're getting cool stuff that most of us could hardly ever have imagined existing a decade ago delivered to your door for feck all.  Have a little patience with the miracle!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 08 February, 2015, 01:43:26 pm
Entitlement is one of the worst aspects of Fandom...

I am dying to get my hands on the Apocalypse WAr book, cup n badge. But I hold that in...

And no, having preview Pdfs doesn't ease my pain. I haven't even opened the Origins Pdf yet... Not sure I can cope with reading that THEN waiting for a delivery... (but obviously I'll do it, I'll do a Preview of it n everything).

I think there are legs in an article about Fan Entitlement issues.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 08 February, 2015, 01:46:55 pm
These instances pointed out on the thread are symptoms of that hateful, but widespread modern malaise: the inability to defer gratification. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 08 February, 2015, 02:08:41 pm
Mmmm.  Ive thrown in my lot with two kickstarters: the Mongoose Dredd miniatures one, which has been dribbling miniature goodness through my letterbox every couple of months for two years now (most recently: a brace of Assassinators and judges with a Stub Gun and a Lazooka!), and the second Reaper Bones outing, which by my count is now 5 months beyond its target date and I haven't got so much as a used sprue so far.  The online whining is deafening.  But I love it. What a treat for the joy of tat-acquisition to be teased out in this fashion!  It's been so long now since I spent the money that I can't even remember how much it was, and yet still the presents come!  Obviously if it was a transplant organ or an unpaid invoice I was waiting on I'd be spitting nails, but for childish indulgences it just prolongs the experience.

Woe to those who don't appreciate the extended foreplay of missed delivery dates: punctuality and deadlines are for work, not pleasure!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 08 February, 2015, 05:20:56 pm
Aaand I've just laid hands on Vol 24.  Corr it ain't half gorgeous - MacNeil in particular is on fire, giving Mechanismo a huge solid presence on his bright spacious pages, but Doherty's art is also some of his very best, great storytelling with a muted shadowy palette.  Manuel Benet's turn at the wheel does stand out somewhat, but  you know it's really not half bad - just very markedly different.  The sudden shift from Benet to the soothing familiar ground of Blythe-coloured Robinson in the backup tale S.A.M.s only serves to emphasise this contrast. Still to dive into teh MacNeil interview, but Matt's intro shows he has a complete understanding of and appreciation for the material he is shepherding.     

And oh boy, what a fantastic cover.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 08 February, 2015, 05:45:48 pm
Im looking forward to seeing it this week.

Or next...I'm not bothered...  ;)

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: strangelysaucy on 08 February, 2015, 06:15:50 pm
Entitlement is one of the worst aspects of Fandom...

I think there are legs in an article about Fan Entitlement issues.

I think there's probably a 50,000 page paper by now! some really odd people out there who go mental if they can't have what they 'deserve' from a franchise/company/artist etc...
There's also the phenomenon of the some fans becoming experts on how to run a business and commerce that quite tickles me.

Oh and I'm loving every aspect of these gorgeous books so far!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: hippynumber1 on 08 February, 2015, 06:43:01 pm
I won't be subscribing to this but would like to cherry pick the odd volume from time to time. Any ideas if Hatchette (sp?) will be giving people this option? If not, any ideas where I might be able to pick up the odd copy?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 08 February, 2015, 06:55:30 pm
If I understand correctly, then Hatchette will be offering a certain number of each issue (for a limited period, it seems) to be bought direct from their site.

And aren't Forbidden Planet selling this collection? If so, then their site, and shops should have copies for the cherry pickers amongst us.

And eBay, of course peeps on there are hoping to make a wee profit - http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Comics-/63/i.html?_from=R40&LH_ItemCondition=3&_nkw=dredd+mega+collection
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 08 February, 2015, 07:11:10 pm
Aye, all Hachette's partworks eventually have back issues available via their shop (http://www.hachettepartworks.com/shop/) (but certain books will sell ot faster than others).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Magnetica on 08 February, 2015, 07:24:27 pm
Now I can't speak for Hachette or anything so can in no way guarantee this will always happen, but my experience was...I just phoned the number from the website, said I just wanted the first two issues, the person  I spoke to checked they had them in stock and I ordered them. And they turned up last week no problem.

I was very happy with that and plan to do it that way again.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 08 February, 2015, 07:29:10 pm
Mechanismo with MacNeill and Doherty was a joy to behold. Z :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tiplodocus on 08 February, 2015, 07:56:05 pm
I succumbed when I saw it was a measly 6.99.

I may even subscribe just to get 3 and 4. And then probably forget to cancel my subscription. I wonder if Mrs Tips would notice...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 08 February, 2015, 08:55:17 pm
All those people shouting they are going to cancel their subscriptions.... meh, doubt they ever had a subscription in the first place.

It's a lot easier to shout about something online than it is do actually do something (like take out a subscription in the first place or cancel it in anger)

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: JOE SOAP on 08 February, 2015, 10:38:01 pm
Mmmm.  Ive thrown in my lot with two kickstarters: the Mongoose Dredd miniatures one, which has been dribbling miniature goodness through my letterbox every couple of months for two years now (most recently: a brace of Assassinators and judges with a Stub Gun and a Lazooka!), and the second Reaper Bones outing, which by my count is now 5 months beyond its target date and I haven't got so much as a used sprue so far.  The online whining is deafening.  But I love it.


Pfffft. I waited nearly 5 years for the fruit of one favoured kickstarter to arrive at my doorstep.






Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 09 February, 2015, 09:28:37 am
Had the dreaded red card of disappointed from the postman whilst I was doing my morning ablutions

Luckily I'm one of the first that he delivers to and has to walk back past my house so I caught him  :)

Got the takeaway mug on Saturday and so I go issue 2 and 3 today as well as the Dredd badge.

Books look beautiful (and no dinged corners which is a bonus) and the Dredd badge is lovely and shiny.

Looking forward to reading these later today  :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 09 February, 2015, 09:36:30 am
In my enthusiasm I spoke too soon.

The clasp on the badge is completely mangled and is about to snap off. I have no way of using this at all  :(

I have emailed the CS department at Hachette and hope they can provide me with a replacement.



Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mike Carroll on 09 February, 2015, 10:23:47 am
Yay! Got my mug thingy! No sign of the badge or the next two books yet, but the box in which the mug came was marked "This is Parcel #1 of 2" so I guess they're on the way.

-- Mike
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 09 February, 2015, 10:41:56 am
There is a chip in my mug .  .  . life is literally over  :'(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: James Stacey on 09 February, 2015, 10:46:22 am
My copies of 2 and 3 arrived but no freebies. Off to facebook to vent my anger about some stuff I don't really need not arriving when I want. That's the way it works, right ?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin YNWA on 09 February, 2015, 10:47:27 am
There is a chip in my mug .  .  . life is literally over  :'(

Just put some salad cream on it I'm sure it will taste fine...

...oh right, I see...

...Sorry.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: strangelysaucy on 09 February, 2015, 10:55:18 am
My copies of 2 and 3 arrived but no freebies. Off to facebook to vent my anger about some stuff I don't really need not arriving when I want. That's the way it works, right ?

HOW DARE THEY!!!!!!!?????
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 09 February, 2015, 11:00:28 am
Who here has subcribed to get the exclusive art prints (me  :D )
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 09 February, 2015, 11:43:33 am
My copies of 2 and 3 arrived but no freebies. Off to facebook to vent my anger about some stuff I don't really need not arriving when I want. That's the way it works, right ?

HOW DARE THEY!!!!!!!?????

Cancel the subscription you do not have! That's my advice.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: NapalmKev on 09 February, 2015, 12:08:16 pm
Who here has subcribed to get the exclusive art prints (me  :D )

Yep, me too!

I recieved a Confirmation Email today.

Cheers
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: hippynumber1 on 09 February, 2015, 01:21:59 pm
There is a chip in my mug .  .  . life is literally over  :'(

Just put some salad cream on it I'm sure it will taste fine...

...oh right, I see...

...Sorry.

Salad cream? On a chip? You disgust me!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: GrudgeJohnDeed on 09 February, 2015, 01:52:31 pm
Who here has subcribed to get the exclusive art prints (me  :D )

me too!

Although disaster struck, got issue 2 and 3 today and theres a bit of damage. issue 2 has a crushed corner and issue 3 has quite deep scratches in the cover. the badge was in there too, and the pin on it is bent out of shape so im guessing that it was pressing into the cover of issue 3

they could definitely use a bit of bubble wrap for these, all things considered
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Ghost MacRoth on 09 February, 2015, 01:57:43 pm
Got mine too, thought I was unluck to have a ding on the top corner, but it sounds rather like I got off lucky!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: strangelysaucy on 09 February, 2015, 02:00:49 pm
My copies of 2 and 3 arrived but no freebies. Off to facebook to vent my anger about some stuff I don't really need not arriving when I want. That's the way it works, right ?

HOW DARE THEY!!!!!!!?????

Cancel the subscription you do not have! That's my advice.

I immediately subscribed when I heard there was a problem with subscribers so I could cancel it immediately in disgust.

I also emailed them with a photo of me looking disgusted to prove how disgusted I was.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 09 February, 2015, 02:11:05 pm
My copies of 2 and 3 arrived but no freebies. Off to facebook to vent my anger about some stuff I don't really need not arriving when I want. That's the way it works, right ?

HOW DARE THEY!!!!!!!?????

Cancel the subscription you do not have! That's my advice.

I immediately subscribed when I heard there was a problem with subscribers so I could cancel it immediately in disgust.

I also emailed them with a photo of me looking disgusted to prove how disgusted I was.


Have you considered writing to your MP?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 09 February, 2015, 02:43:16 pm
Or the lead singer of Echo and the Bunnymen, perhaps?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: user2000 on 09 February, 2015, 04:09:17 pm
Got mine too (rolled eyes from the missus when I paraded around with my badge on  :D ).

Dunted (I mean that, being a Jock) corners in my Mechanismo, regularly had this with the Marvel collection to varying degrees, Hachette just replace them without a quibble, or any thought to improving their packaging so you can all look forward to having this issue with this collection as well it seems.

Me though, I'm definitely cancelling and just going to dip in when I fancy one.  The no colour centre spreads is a deal breaker for me - I have all this stuff at least four times over already - especially galling when at the end of the Apocalypse War book the additional blurb is opened with a reprint of part of the first spread, and it's in colour!    ::)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Proudhuff on 09 February, 2015, 07:58:01 pm
That nice Mr Mcneil has signed my copy of the first one and a wee two line Dredd sketch.will have to stalk the big W (again!) To complete the set.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Buttonman on 09 February, 2015, 08:31:14 pm
I got the mug on Saturday (no chips) and books 2 and 3 today with the badge. Book is good order but I did think it was strange to have the badge rattling about in the box - they could have bubble wrapped it and stuck it in the mug but they may come from different places. In short : not cancelling.

Also got a £0.00 invoice, which was nice.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 09 February, 2015, 08:39:00 pm
Next two books turned up today along with the badge.  All safe and sound which is nice.

Only had a brief glance.  Mechanism is one of the few that I don't have as  a GN which is nice but like many others Apocalypse I now have in multiple editions.  Interesting comparing the different editions. 
(http://IMG_1381.jpg)
Mega collection(R) compared to IDW(L)
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Mega collection(R) compared to Titan(L)
As has been mentioned above the lack of colour spreads is a disappointment, particularly considering the amount of colour already there.
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: glassstanley on 09 February, 2015, 10:10:12 pm
There's a grey scale centre spread in the Apocalypse War, which is even more frustrating!

Also noticed some gutter loss in the centre spreads. Hope this is something they're going to try and improve...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 February, 2015, 10:18:20 pm
Woke up this afternoon for Caz to bring me the parcel in bed, now there's service for you. The postman said that he didn't know where parcel one of two was, so Caz reminded him that he delivered that the other day.

Once I realised what was inside I quickly grabbed the hot line to the President of the free world and asked him to stop the nuclear strike on Hachette's HQ. Ee by gum, they were lucky buggers, I can tell you that :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: FoldsFive on 09 February, 2015, 10:26:02 pm
Mine all arrived today; Badge - which was a much better quality than expected, Mug - ceramic, again, more than I expected.  Both books look great - I still can't get over how good those B&W covers are.  And pleasantly surprised to see that The Apocalypse War included Block Mania as well.  Very, very happy.  I hope the run lasts to the end.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 09 February, 2015, 10:42:37 pm
Mine hasn't arrived, so I thought I'd get on here and tell you all that.  Plus I wanted to be the third PR Judge in a row to post an update about it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mardroid on 10 February, 2015, 12:08:32 am
I rarely get post on Mondays, so I came home hopeful, but not exactly expectant. The parcel certainly wasn't in the usual places, so I assumed I could expect it tomorrow.

I went upstairs to do something... and there in the doorway of my bedroom was a parcel. Now it's not the first time I approached the door of my bedroom since getting back from work today, but it's the first time I found the parcel there! Pretty sure a member of the household must have put it ther in the time in between.

Maybe they picked it up thinking it was for them before looking closer at the address. I don't know.

Anyway, inside were issues 2 and 3 (Mechanismo and Apocalypse War, respectively), and the badge.

As far as books are concerned I now have all duplicates with different spines! I don't usually like to keep two versions of the same book but as the first experiemental volumes lot turned out to be freebies, I guess they're worth keeping as collector's items.

And the badge is pretty good quality. Quite a solid thing. Looking close I can see some tarnishing and some minor scratching, so I agree it could have been packed correctly, but it's a lovely item just the same. I won't be sending for a replacement.

Maybe I'm being a divvy-boy, but the pin seems to be too thin to unhook. I'm wondering if the pin is MEANT to be bent out of true to get it out of the hole, but that would be too fiddly, surely? Particularly when pinning it to a garment...

Maybe it's better to leave it and tie some thread throught the pin if I want to wear it, or use the hole in the corner if I ever go into cosplay mode.*


*I suspect I'd end up getting a badge with my name on it or a psi badge if I took that route though. The idea of being a judge of my own character** appeals more than playing Dredd specifically. Whether I'd ever have the guts to do that is something else though.... But I'm glad to have this. It's a lovely item.

** No pun intended.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: mckee74 on 10 February, 2015, 10:35:17 pm
So I subscribed. Can't wait to read these stories again as it's been a very, very long time.

So yeah, I have my mug (agree, very surprised on the actual cup but rather gutted about the lid) but not a single issue yet. The anticipation is killing me...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 11 February, 2015, 09:58:46 am
Mine arrived yesterday - both were damaged though.  :'(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 11 February, 2015, 11:12:15 am
The books look great but the packaging needs to be stronger. I feel really feel bad complaining about this stuff.  I'm really liking the end papers. I upgraded to premium which made hachette forget I get the first 4 free and so they've billed me. These are details - I couldn't be happier with the design & contents. Well done Rebellion!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 11 February, 2015, 11:54:43 am
Mine arrived yesterday - both were damaged though.  :'(

And they have sorted it out hopefully! :-)

Yes, they are great books. The packaging needs some support or bubbles!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dandontdare on 11 February, 2015, 12:00:25 pm
How does the badge compare to the Planet replicas small badge? Is it metal with a brooch-pin? Sturdy or flimsy?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 11 February, 2015, 12:03:43 pm
Mine arrived yesterday - both were damaged though.  :'(

And they have sorted it out hopefully! :-)

Yes, they are great books. The packaging needs some support or bubbles!

Ive got a replacement badge on the way.
I've had to contact them a couple of times now and both times I have had responses to my emails within 24 hours.

All good so far.

The books are gorgeous.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 11 February, 2015, 12:05:08 pm
How does the badge compare to the Planet replicas small badge? Is it metal with a brooch-pin? Sturdy or flimsy?

I haven't seen the Planet Replica badge but this one has a very sturdy main body with a brooch pin on the back, which is a tad flimsy. It is metal and shiny.

I'm pretty impressed with it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dandontdare on 11 February, 2015, 12:19:27 pm
How does the badge compare to the Planet replicas small badge? Is it metal with a brooch-pin? Sturdy or flimsy?

I haven't seen the Planet Replica badge but this one has a very sturdy main body with a brooch pin on the back, which is a tad flimsy. It is metal and shiny.

I'm pretty impressed with it.

Thanks - sounds very similar. PR did a shiny version and a limited-run matt version, which I bought.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 11 February, 2015, 12:24:50 pm
Loved the badge - thought it would be plastic crap but it was great. Really looking forward to catching up on Dredd's world over the next 4 years..
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Andy Smart on 11 February, 2015, 06:23:42 pm
Just arrived home to find my package. Obviously someone at the Post Office ignored the words "Fragile- Please Handle with Care" written in small print on the label. The box had a big score down it and Apocalypse War has had a considerable chunk taken out of it. I'll be onto Hachette now to sort it.

Quite pleased with the badge, a nice bit of tin.

And for those still wondering, issue 5 is Shamballa. It said in a leaflet.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 11 February, 2015, 06:30:54 pm
Postal service seems to be a major issue here. That is utterly unacceptable. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Andy Smart on 11 February, 2015, 06:34:01 pm
Postal service seems to be a major issue here. That is utterly unacceptable. Z

Privatisation for you. Would never have happened before (Would probably have happened before).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 11 February, 2015, 06:37:30 pm
I suppose the follow on is what can Hachette do to minimise the requests for reissues.....bubble wrap; more ear markings on the parcels? Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Andy Smart on 11 February, 2015, 06:59:20 pm
I suppose the follow on is what can Hachette do to minimise the requests for reissues.....bubble wrap; more ear markings on the parcels? Z

Though it's actually a UK company, Jacklin Enterprises, who handle logistics.

Seeing how people are complaining about damaged books, it must be very expensive to replace them all. Also leaves fewer copies for back issue sales. Bit of bubble wrap can't cost all that much.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 11 February, 2015, 07:17:35 pm
Don't know what the cost to benefit figures are but it would seem prudent to preclude as much as possible replacing damaged units. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 11 February, 2015, 07:37:39 pm
I get mine from my local Thrill Merchant; of all the Marvel Ultimates there have been only three or four with very minor dings in them and the rest have been perfect. If one arrived badly damaged they'd request a replacement without even asking me. No red cards, no books abandoned in next door's garden, no faffing about on the 'phone. No free gifts but then I've nowhere to put precious tat anyway.
.
Support your local Thrill Merchant - they need your custom and they do a damned fine job! Most even deliver, so you can tell your local paper boy/girl where to stick it if you're not in. Go on - you know it makes sense!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 11 February, 2015, 07:50:48 pm
Shark as ever you are a catalyst for my nascent motivations. I am going to my local shop tomorrow to get a subscription to the prog and meg. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 11 February, 2015, 07:55:13 pm
Good man! Support your local economy and get thrilled-up at the same time - it's win/win!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Albion on 11 February, 2015, 08:18:30 pm
I'm surprised, and sorry, to see so many comments about damaged books.

I've been getting the Marvel books from the start and have never had any real problems with them getting damaged, maybe our postman at work is just very good at his job.

All the Marvel books, except one which was in a cardboard envelope like Amazon use, were delivered in a kind of wraparound cardboard box. Is this the case with the Dredd's?

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Daveycandlish on 11 February, 2015, 08:20:01 pm
My books arrived in perfect nick. My mug, however, turned up in seven pieces. I can't see that holding much coffee.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 11 February, 2015, 08:22:27 pm
Oh no not the corps....that hardly merited the attribute of a story. Mind you the artwork was top line. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 11 February, 2015, 08:23:41 pm
Davey: glue, fortitude and love. Z
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: James Stacey on 11 February, 2015, 09:00:49 pm
I've not once had so much as a dinged corner in the around 80? Books I've had from the marvel set but then I have it delivered to work so it's always handed to someone not dropped through a door.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 February, 2015, 02:31:11 pm
Luck of the draw, I guess. I've had damage to books from almost every retailer. Only Amazon is very consistent in low damage, with FPI being reasonably good. Everyone else I've tried has at best sent books that have been a bit dinged.

On this sub, my first one came in a thickish card envelope, and it appears undamaged. Still waiting for #2 and #3.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 12 February, 2015, 07:41:58 pm
Luck of the draw, I guess. I've had damage to books from almost every retailer. Only Amazon is very consistent in low damage, with FPI being reasonably good. Everyone else I've tried has at best sent books that have been a bit dinged.


I love FP for their books.  Comes in a box three times too big and enough packing peanuts to stun a dozen Bolt's.  On the other hand a book I got off Amazon recently came in a thin plastic wrapping.  Amazingly it was in decent shape.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: DaveGYNWA on 12 February, 2015, 09:07:05 pm
....and enough packing peanuts to stun a dozen Bolt's.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 13 February, 2015, 01:43:25 pm
I'm really liking the collection so far...I wasn't going to subscribe as I'm collecting the case files and picking up any other relevent graphic novels that fit between as we encounter them...but they are such pretty books, so I cracked.

However, the one thing that I would realy like is a list of all 80 planned titles so that I have a better idea as to what this series will cover...this is mainly to fule speculation and excitement, but will also help me understand what other books I'll need to pick up to fill in gaps :) However Hachette's support people don't seem to understand the request :( I don't even care about the order that each volume is being released (I won't be using this to cherry pick; I want the full set)...

Has anyone else tried to request a list like this?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: James Stacey on 13 February, 2015, 01:48:37 pm
Yep. I think I mentioned it up thread a bit. They say they don't have the list which is hard to believe. Although listening to the thrill-cast, all the production work is being done at Rebellion so it might be true, they don't know what's coming till Rebellion send them the files for the next issues. They are just publishing, advertising and managing subs. If so we need to ask the mighty Molch-R or Robo-Keef if they will let on.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 13 February, 2015, 01:55:28 pm
There is going to be lots of good stuff & plenty of great stuff. What's more the amount of amazing stuff will make putting up with the average stuff more than bareable.

Contents rundown sorted! Molch-R can quote me on that if he wants.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 13 February, 2015, 02:00:25 pm
Yep there must be a list somewhere, otherwise releasing Vol 24 as issue 2 is a bit of a risk...If the final collection is ordered by chaos, it might just break me  :lol:

I was looking for something a bit more specific than 'stuff', but less specific that a full rundown of contents  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 13 February, 2015, 04:16:41 pm
The thing is having a list doesn't fuel speculation. A list ends it. So it is probably better business not to give a full list now.

More likely is a few future details being dripped out from those in the know.

If I get a press release with details you can be assured I for one will be updating my site and letting folk know. I'm sure others on here will do too. Probably Molch-R will do that too.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 13 February, 2015, 05:06:55 pm
I'm all for us not knowing at all. Indeed I might start avoiding this thread. So few surprises out there in the modern PR-led comics industry.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 13 February, 2015, 05:28:08 pm
Got America and Mechanismo as of now. And I'm really satisfied with the books. Quality books in every way. Quite evident, since how careful my friends have been having a look in them. Something I don't see often.

I'm likely to stick around, getting all of them.

Btw. Any ideas on the back up tales in the Apocalypse war and Origins volumes?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 13 February, 2015, 06:09:43 pm
It is Front Up strip is Apocalypse War - Block Mania - my preview - http://judgetutorsemple.wordpress.com/2015/02/11/judge-dredd-mega-collection-issue-3-18th-february-2015-includes-preview-pages/

Origins has (text) An Intro from Matt Smith, Story So Far, (strips) The Connections. Origins. The Spirit of Christmas (Colin MaxNeil editing these???) (text) Article by Michael Molcher (art) Covers Gallery & Sketches by Carlos Ezquerra . I'm not doing a preview till Wednesday next week at the earliest.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 14 February, 2015, 01:02:57 pm
Mine turned up today. Absolutely gorgeous. They're like a Dredd fan's wet dream.

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/DD45CE68-8998-416E-924E-FF3F3F8E2AC6_zpsyx8qmk2s.jpg) (http://s186.photobucket.com/user/scowling_monkey/media/DD45CE68-8998-416E-924E-FF3F3F8E2AC6_zpsyx8qmk2s.jpg.html)

Minor annoyance - the pin holder on the back of the badge was bent. I was able to gingerly bend it back into place though, so all good.

I've finished Mechanismo already. I'd read the Colin McNeil stuff before, but everything else was new to me (this must have been during the phase where the girlfriend at that time banned comics as too childish. Jeez, the things you put up with to get your end away, eh?). Pete Doherty's work was a real eye-opener. Stunning!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 14 February, 2015, 01:33:58 pm
My first delivey arrived a few minutes ago...earlier than I expected too, since I started my subscription with issue 3.

Oh, hang on...seems the package contains issues 2 and 3 :(

Also no sign of the badge...

The invoice clearly says under Transaction Details:

'Judge Dredd The Mega Collection 03'
'Judge Dredd The Mega Collection 04, Badge, Takeaway Mug'

Oh well, phone call before I start work on Monday morning I guess. Still they arrived in good condition, which was where my main concerns were.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 15 February, 2015, 09:18:49 am
Going basic nerd here: how does Apocalypse War look on the MegaCollection paper/size?  How well are the centre spreads handled compared to the Casefiles (my current reading cop of same). You see where I'm going with this.

Also: wouldn't it have been cool if they could squeezed Pirates of the Black Atlantic in there?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 15 February, 2015, 10:07:03 am
There are some issues with the Apocalypse War book, similar to other collections. My review details them:

http://eamonn1961.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/the-mega-collection-issues-2-and-3.html
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 15 February, 2015, 10:16:27 am
That 'unfinished pencils' thing is similar to the flashback device used in the previous episode.

Since those pages wouldn't be colour, it's a shorthand for black and white - so intentional, anc nothing to do with the plates or the repro.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 15 February, 2015, 10:19:42 am
There are some issues with the Apocalypse War book, similar to other collections.

Umm… that 'washed out' Carlos page is supposed to look like that. Carlos deliberately chose not to fill in the blacks during flashback sequences to differentiate them from the current scenes, an effect almost entirely destroyed by IDW's colourists. D'israeli even blogged about copying the effect (http://disraeli-demon.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/lowlife-deal-part-eight-my-hand-nearly.html) in one of his Low Life process posts.

Cheers

Jim

Edit: Curses! Beaten to the punch by Steve.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 15 February, 2015, 10:31:46 am
Thanks Eamonn, Steve and Jim.  Does anyone else with volume in hand feel that the centrespread gutter issue is more serious than in the casefiles? I suppose that I`m mainly wondering whether the new volume is a worthwhile upgrade to the casefiles just for the stonking cover and hardback stylings.  If the art looks no better on what is better paper I`d guess I might pass on this one.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: NapalmKev on 15 February, 2015, 11:00:33 am
Received issues 2 and 3 yesterday for the price of £2.99, but no sign of issue 1. Not bad service IMO, I only subscibed last Saturday. Some minor marks on the cover of Mechanismo but nothing to get overly upset about.

Cheers
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 15 February, 2015, 11:16:52 am
I stand corrected. The perils of not having the original progs to hand.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 15 February, 2015, 12:52:29 pm
It's interesting how they've numbered the spines. Clearly an incentive to get ALL issues, if you want them to line up nicely on your bookshelf.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Ghost MacRoth on 15 February, 2015, 12:54:42 pm
Yep, and likely why the ya re being issued non sequentially.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 15 February, 2015, 03:52:25 pm
I don't have an 80 book long shelf!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 15 February, 2015, 08:47:28 pm
Received issues 2 and 3 yesterday for the price of £2.99, but no sign of issue 1. Not bad service IMO, I only subscibed last Saturday. Some minor marks on the cover of Mechanismo but nothing to get overly upset about.

Cheers

I subscribed in the same week as you...sounds like for that week's subscriptions they are ending out issues 2 and 3 no matter what the invoice says  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 15 February, 2015, 09:01:28 pm
But I still haven't got issues 2&3 and I subscribed 18th of January...

Oh well, they'll arrive when they get here.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 15 February, 2015, 09:19:34 pm
Similar here: subbed on the 20th.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 16 February, 2015, 12:34:22 am
I just managed to register my subscription on www.hachettepartworks.com. I have tried several times before to register and up to now I got a response that read something like 'You have entered a valid subscription number but this product is not yet available'

It shows dispatch date of 14th Feb for my Part 2 & 3 and the gifts.

Happy punter, hopefully I'll get 4 & 5 just a little earlier next month.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 February, 2015, 01:33:23 pm
Yep—same here. Nice to have the confirmation online.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 16 February, 2015, 02:55:03 pm
Same here.
I asked for another badge as mine was damaged and they kindly agreed to send me one.

Just logged on and it looks like they are sending me another mug too.

Which is nice of them.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 16 February, 2015, 03:28:20 pm
My second subscription has started properly now for the fan in the Netherlands, as his parcel arrived today. I presume that they are getting on top of the demand now :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 16 February, 2015, 04:40:34 pm
So can you guys see exactly which issues have been sent, when viewing the transactions in the site? Mine appeared as in the attached picture...just wondered if it was because I'm using a phone to view...

Also, for those of you who have ordered replacements for damaged/missing items, how long did it take for them to appear in the transactions list?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Pete Wells on 16 February, 2015, 05:39:47 pm
5 and 6 have been revealed and sound great!

Details here: http://www.judgedreddcollection.com/judge-dredd-the-mega-collection-issues-5-6-exclusive-reveal/?utm_source=Blog%20Post&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Yomego (http://www.judgedreddcollection.com/judge-dredd-the-mega-collection-issues-5-6-exclusive-reveal/?utm_source=Blog%20Post&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Yomego)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 16 February, 2015, 06:30:58 pm
Very much looking forwards to 4, 5 and 6 as I don't think I've read anything from them :) Well I may have read a bit from 5 but not any full stories :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 16 February, 2015, 06:49:28 pm
I missed the news about 4 - what's in it?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 16 February, 2015, 06:53:27 pm
Origins isn't it?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 16 February, 2015, 06:59:27 pm
The talk on this thread has really got me confused - is the Shamballa book worth getting or not? How bad can the story be?! I've not read much Anderson stuff so this would all be new to me, but it's got to be worth it for the artwork alone, surely...?

As to the Mandroid book... well, I'm glad the're padding it out with extra stuff of course and it'd be churlish to complain about that, but I remember finding that Atlantis story really dull and forgettable.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: I, Cosh on 16 February, 2015, 07:03:51 pm
The talk on this thread has really got me confused - is the Shamballa book worth getting or not? How bad can the story be?! I've not read much Anderson stuff so this would all be new to me, but it's got to be worth it for the artwork alone, surely...?
Eh? Shamballa is fantastic.

The decision to include R*Volution and not Something Wicked is a bit weird though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 16 February, 2015, 07:04:43 pm
Shamballa is a great story - I just think it's one (like the Apocalypse War) that people may already have bought several times already.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 16 February, 2015, 07:12:31 pm
The talk on this thread has really got me confused - is the Shamballa book worth getting or not? How bad can the story be?! I've not read much Anderson stuff so this would all be new to me, but it's got to be worth it for the artwork alone, surely...?
Eh? Shamballa is fantastic.

Well I thought it was an acknowledged classic until this thread, which distinctly gave the opposite impression!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 16 February, 2015, 08:40:25 pm
Shamballa is a great story - I just think it's one (like the Apocalypse War) that people may already have bought several times already.

Yeah, that's the thing - I have bought it 3 times now, that's how much I like it. But 4?  Well, seeing as I've never read a chunk of the backup material, but can visualise all the lovely art, maybe!

That Mandroid volume will definitely be mine, however.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 16 February, 2015, 08:42:13 pm
As I've said before Shambala and Satan are utter classics. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: mimikeke on 16 February, 2015, 10:21:37 pm
Shamballa is a great story - I just think it's one (like the Apocalypse War) that people may already have bought several times already.

Hey, if anyone wants to gift someone one of these several copies...and maybe pay the exorbitant shipping to the states...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4hNiApCYAAcQSr.jpg:large)

 :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: I, Cosh on 16 February, 2015, 11:50:57 pm
The talk on this thread has really got me confused - is the Shamballa book worth getting or not? How bad can the story be?! I've not read much Anderson stuff so this would all be new to me, but it's got to be worth it for the artwork alone, surely...?
Eh? Shamballa is fantastic.
Well I thought it was an acknowledged classic until this thread, which distinctly gave the opposite impression!
There's some strange people around.

If you really haven't read any early Anderson (and, given your Dredd timelines I'm astounded) then you'd be much better served reading Psi Files 1 first. It's not essential continuity or anything but there's a general drift towards it. Shamballa actually fits in just before the last story in that first volume but they, sensibly, decided to save it for the first all-colour volume.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 17 February, 2015, 12:05:09 am
If you really haven't read any early Anderson (and, given your Dredd timelines I'm astounded)...

Genuinely not! I've read most Anderson stories from R*evolution/Half Life onwards but nothing earlier, apart from her Dredd appearences. Always intended to pick up the Psi Files but never got around to it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 17 February, 2015, 06:46:25 pm
What if they'd make an Anderson/Orlock book? Hour of the wolf, Triad, Childhoods end and Postcards from the edge (the Orlock pages.). A good idea? Any ideas how many pages would that be?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 17 February, 2015, 09:13:27 pm
Hope we get the low life story not yet reprinted
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 18 February, 2015, 11:42:16 am
There are at least 23 copies of the latest issue in my local Smith's and I only bought the extra one this time.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Magnetica on 18 February, 2015, 05:19:07 pm
I popped into a local Newsagent today to see if they had it...they didn't and the shop keeper asked me what I was looking for. I told him, but it meant nothing to him. He then asked me to write it down, which I did, so may be he will start ordering it. You never know.

I then checked out one of the two Co-Ops on the same street, and low and behold they did have it - it was on the bottom shelf lying down...very difficult to see. In fact I am amazed I spotted it. They had a number of copies of America, Mechanismo and the The Apocalypse War. Now I said I would pick and choose and found it very difficult to resist buying the Apocalypse War. I even went back in later to get some bread after a day out with the kids and was still thinking about getting it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 18 February, 2015, 05:32:39 pm
I popped into a local Newsagent today to see if they had it...they didn't and the shop keeper asked me what I was looking for. I told him, but it meant nothing to him. He then asked me to write it down, which I did, so may be he will start ordering it. You never know.

I then checked out one of the two Co-Ops on the same street, and low and behold they did have it - it was on the bottom shelf lying down...very difficult to see. In fact I am amazed I spotted it. They had a number of copies of America, Mechanismo and the The Apocalypse War. Now I said I would pick and choose and found it very difficult to resist buying the Apocalypse War. I even went back in later to get some bread after a day out with the kids and was still thinking about getting it.

Don't resist it! You are only hurting yourself!  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 18 February, 2015, 05:51:33 pm
OK Comics have restocked issue 1 & 2 (one per customer)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 18 February, 2015, 06:32:47 pm
Got my Apocalypse War (along with the Marvel UGNC Warlock Part One) from the newsagents today. Both in perfect condition and came with a smile and a chat with the lovely Mrs Newsagent. (Don't be put off if your local hasn't heard of it - there are so many books and mags and comics and partworks out there they can't know them all - they will find it for you.)
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I wish they'd re-coloured the Apocalypse War - at least one Marvel UGNC (Tales of Asgard) was re-coloured and looked splendid. Maybe we should crowd fund Chris Blythe or somebody to have a go at some old one-part classics as Tharg/Hachette/Rebellion seem too tight to treat us, relying on us buying the same old thing yet again (which we are glad to do, apparently). Maybe the Return of Rico or something. Having paid for the colouring ourselves we could then donate the results to Tharg so we can, er, buy them again!
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 18 February, 2015, 06:39:51 pm
A fully coloured Apocalypse War oversized hardback is available from IDW. It's great.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 18 February, 2015, 06:42:44 pm
Everyone could get their crayons out. I used to colour Axa in my Dad's Sun. He was quite amused when he found out.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 18 February, 2015, 07:38:07 pm
http://2000ad.wordpress.com/2014/10/21/review-idws-the-apocalypse-war-reprint/
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 18 February, 2015, 07:44:14 pm
There's a colour version and I've just bought yet another black and white version?
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I am very disappointed about that. Very disappointed indeed.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 18 February, 2015, 08:18:03 pm
Reading The Apocalyse War currently in the Complete Judge Dredd. On bog paper. As nature intended. With inky fingers. Very probably only for the second time  :o  It is wonderful.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 18 February, 2015, 11:45:48 pm
There's a colour version and I've just bought yet another black and white version?
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I am very disappointed about that. Very disappointed indeed.
Well, the IDW version isn't the original. It's a pity Hachette couldn't have got colour films/scans for the spreads, but I absolutely would not have wanted IDW's recolour in this series.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 19 February, 2015, 12:33:49 am
I can't help feeling that IDW would have a right to be miffed if even a partially-coloured Apocalypse War hardback volume was released so soon after their own effort.  For all that I would have offered some non-essential organ in exchange for such a thing.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: JOE SOAP on 19 February, 2015, 12:36:09 am
I can't help feeling that IDW would have a right to be miffed if even a partially-coloured Apocalypse War hardback volume was released so soon after their own effort.

Which is partly why I assume Hachette don't have license in the US, yet.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 19 February, 2015, 01:55:11 am
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Well, the IDW version isn't the original

He specifically asked about a 're-coloured' version, as in full colour, not just centre spreads.

The IDW colouring certainly isn't perfect or definitive, but it makes an old story feel fresh on a reread.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 19 February, 2015, 09:51:03 am
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Well, the IDW version isn't the original
He specifically asked about a 're-coloured' version, as in full colour, not just centre spreads.
Yes, but feeling aggrieved because a historical collection doesn't include recoloured art seems a bit odd, even if a coloured collection is out there. Might as well complain about anything that got a US Eagle comics run…
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 19 February, 2015, 10:12:01 am
It just seems like a wasted opportunity. This collection would appear to be a flagship product, hopefully attracting new readers as well as satisfying long-term fans such as myself. A coloured Apocalypse War might have been a great treat for both target audiences and I'm disappointed it didn't happen.
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Don't get me wrong, Carlos's artwork is magnificent throughout and definitely more than good enough as-is but a coloured version would put the cherry on top for me. Would have made the book something very special indeed instead of the same old thing with a new cover.
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I wouldn't expect every old b&w story to be coloured but just a couple of the Greats, like AW, would really set this collection off. In my opinion. It feels like a wasted opportunity.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 19 February, 2015, 10:34:31 am
A coloured Apocalypse War might have been a great treat for both target audiences and I'm disappointed it didn't happen

There already are two fully recoloured versions of the Apocalypse War out there - the second one released as a hardback in the past year or so, and reasonably priced on Amazon (when compared to a single volume of the Mega Collection at least). I'd class these as essentially new works, and the MegaCollection is aimed at reprint of the originals. I don't think Rebellion/Hachette can be criticised for that.

Personally I'd have loved to see the Mega Collection in general include ALL the original colour pages, it would have ensured me taking out a sub that I really can't afford. However, there are obviously budget issues in creating new files rather than using the existing Rebellion ones (I imagine the existing digital archives of the Casefiles, TPB and Floppies crew is what makes the project feasible at all), and maybe just as significantly it would reduce Rebellion's market for future Deluxe printings, a la the Casefiles Vol 1 hardback - as many have predicted, as digital availability really takes hold it's physical books as high quality artefacts that are becoming the key to the print market. This may be the last call for  'cheap' reprint.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 19 February, 2015, 10:52:56 am
Yep,

I've already considered exchanging my existing TPBs for digital because of space and convenience, and reserving physical for a select few collections.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 19 February, 2015, 11:11:27 am
Sharks are never satisfied.
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I assume the "missing" episodes of The Cursed Earth won't be re-printed either due to those old trademark issues. Even though it's satire and even after this French cartoon/freedom of expression thing. It's okay to satirise a Holy Prophet but not the Jolly Green Giant? What a world.
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That said, I'm a Dredd fan and will continue to get these books for as long as I can.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 19 February, 2015, 11:17:52 am
Hachette has already confirmed those episodes will not be reprinted. Even thought current legislation surrounding satire would make something like that much more defensible in court, that doesn't trump previous legal agreements, which transfer with IP ownership. Rebellion remains bound by the agreement made all those years ago, unless it chooses to fight—which would be extremely expensive.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 19 February, 2015, 11:39:45 am
I don't know all the legal ins and outs of it but there must be a way. A grass roots Squaxx/comic fan letter-writing campaign to the companies involved, asking them to relent, might be an option (worked for Star Trek). Getting the episodes re-drawn with altered characters might be another. Publish and be damned a risky third. A fourth option might be a deal; a percentage of profits from that particular book going to a charity of the IP holders' choice. Even (choke) a quid-pro-quo allowing so many uses of Dredd in ads - Eat your sweetcorn, creeps! Check your tread-depth - it's the Law, meathead! (Preferably, and probably, not.)
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Anyway. Back to reality. *sigh*
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 19 February, 2015, 11:52:10 am
It's okay to satirise a Holy Prophet but not the Jolly Green Giant? What a world.

Oh that's a good one!  Prepare to see me trot that out in future discussions of The Cursed Earth over the years, probably convinced that I came up it with myself on the spot.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 19 February, 2015, 12:16:07 pm
...Tharg/Hachette/Rebellion seem too tight to treat us...

Apart from the lovingly designed hardback edition itself, you mean? Apart from the newly commisoned cover artwork on Mechanismo and future books? Apart from the many little rarely/never-reprinted extra episodes crammed into the back of every other book so far to add value? Apart from the new intros and afterwords? Apart from the free subscriber's gifts? Apart from the thrillcast? Apart from the fact this collection exists at all?

Yeah, so bloody tight.

...relying on us buying the same old thing yet again (which we are glad to do, apparently)...

This collection is pitched at lapsed/new Dredd readers. It isn't Rebellion's fault that this is the Nth copy of Apocalypse War you've bought and you're starting to pine for additional value to justify the purchase.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 19 February, 2015, 12:25:03 pm
Also, 200+ page hardbacks for a tenner? That alone punts this collection well clear of anything else in pure value terms.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 19 February, 2015, 12:36:32 pm
Everything you say is correct, which is why I said I hate Dredd, Hachette, Rebellion and Tharg and would never buy another edition of this egregious collection ever again.
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I don't think it's wrong of me to want more, whether it's currently realistic or not. I'm reading the AW right now, again, and thoroughly enjoying it, again. If it was in colour, I'd be reading it with an erection, but it isn't so I'm not.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 19 February, 2015, 12:38:51 pm
Everything you say is correct, which is why I said I hate Dredd, Hachette, Rebellion and Tharg and would never buy another edition of this egregious collection ever again.

 ::)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 19 February, 2015, 12:40:08 pm
If it was in colour, I'd be reading it with an erection, but it isn't so I'm not.

You haven't got to the tunnel-boring scene yet, I deduce.

BTW, has anyone ever seen TLS and TS in the same room together?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 19 February, 2015, 12:52:46 pm
Quiet, Lois - or I'll blow your on-line cover...
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(Settle down at the back...)
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Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 19 February, 2015, 01:24:23 pm
BTW, has anyone ever seen TLS and TS in the same room together?

Nicely done.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 19 February, 2015, 07:20:08 pm
FP have voll 5 & 6 for preorder at 8.99.

No idea on the P&P.

Lovely cover to Mandroid.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 19 February, 2015, 08:24:14 pm
We'll petri dish cells from both of them and come up with a Thryll Shark or The Legendry Seeker or what the heck, one of each....the forum would be some crack then. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 19 February, 2015, 08:35:02 pm
There's a horror film in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: NapalmKev on 20 February, 2015, 08:03:15 am
I registered online and although I got an account working (initially) I did not receive a confirmation email. The issue is further compounded by the fact I was Drunk and I cannot remember my password (Twat).

I've emailed Hachette but as yet have had no reply. Has anyone else had a similar issue? (Apart from the Drunkenness)

Cheers
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 20 February, 2015, 08:08:12 am
my password (Twat).

You need more letters and numbers in that password — you'll be hacked in no time.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: NapalmKev on 20 February, 2015, 08:17:37 am
my password (Twat).

You need more letters and numbers in that password — you'll be hacked in no time.

Cheers

Jim

I probably should've used "Twat" as a password (or some variation thereof). In the words of the mighty 'Yoda' - Alcohol and Internet do not a good mix, make.

Cheers
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 20 February, 2015, 08:18:08 am
I find that the account is quite often unavailable, but if I try again later then it'll be fine. But I also have a problem with the transaction description field not being long enough to actually show me what issues have been dispatched. More of a concern is that when I queried this with support I was asked for my account login details. Naturally I declined to give them my password and this was the reply that I got:

Hi Luke,

Please note that in order for us to offer you the correct assistance pertaining to your query, your password is required as that will enable us to identify the error.

Kind regards,

Bongi

I'm fairly certain that a two minute database query would give them all the information the would need on a field length issue...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 20 February, 2015, 09:49:15 am
With a house that is at bursting point and no more space for books, the plan as to go digital only this year if possible and I promised myself I wouldn't start yet another collection.

I am weak  ::) I picked up isue 3 last night from WHSmiths, got it with me for lunch time reading.

No idea where I am going to put all these books though..... I think I can see myself keeping up with these, might subscribe eventually.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 20 February, 2015, 01:34:09 pm
Really pleased that Hachette sent a new copy of Apocalypse War after it arrived dented. If all it takes to replace a book is a phone call I'm in for all 80 books.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: J.Smith on 20 February, 2015, 02:00:28 pm
FP have voll 5 & 6 for preorder at 8.99.

No idea on the P&P.

Lovely cover to Mandroid.

And more volumes (up to no. 20) besides at the same price, albeit without their covers or series names. I checked what their P&P cost is for those two volumes and it's £4.00, which makes it only £2 dearer than subscribing to the series where you pay £10 per volume and have them delivered to you for free. Not a bad alternative then if you need one, especially as every order I've made through FP has always arrived in perfect condition.

And yeah, that Mandroid cover is brilliant. Thought they might go with that one cover of Nate with Dredd looming over him in the background (I believe used on the same Prog that the story started...?) but Kev Walker's pissed off Dredd with his teeth gritted together looks better in the black and white actually. Gonna be fun to see what they do for covers for the rest of the series going forward. That Mandroid cover, for example, is from a panel late in the first story, and America's is taken from a splash page in the first episode of Tour of Duty.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 February, 2015, 02:22:52 pm
How are people doing with February 14 dispatches of 2 & 3? (Nothing here yet. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 20 February, 2015, 11:10:26 pm
Ditto Mr Prime.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 21 February, 2015, 01:10:06 am
I sent a lovely box containing the first three off to the Netherlands this week. Helping our European friends get their thrill-power!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 21 February, 2015, 07:32:55 am
Good man! Careful, though - you might get a KTT like Emperor and then disappear... ;-)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 21 February, 2015, 08:33:18 am
How are people doing with February 14 dispatches of 2 & 3? (Nothing here yet. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.)

My package of the 14th arrived this morning. A replacement badge and mug.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mike Carroll on 21 February, 2015, 08:43:20 am
How are people doing with February 14 dispatches of 2 & 3? (Nothing here yet. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.)

Still no sign of 2 & 3 here... Though I did get the travel mug thingy on February 9th.

--  Mike
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 21 February, 2015, 11:12:56 am
The second set arrived here today. Two books and a badge in one card pack, and the mug and another badge (for some reason) in the other. Both badges are damaged (bent/smashed-up pins), and both books have noticeable crushing in the corners, due to being sent in a card sleeve that doesn't appear up for the job. I don't really give a crap about the badges, but if this is how the books are all going to be sent, I'm going to be mulling over whether to continue.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 21 February, 2015, 11:46:03 am
Sold my badge on eBay for £15 - and hachette quickly replaced the damaged book. A good deal I think!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 21 February, 2015, 12:25:03 pm
Mine arrived today. Also two badges but one in great condition while one has a slightly iffy ( but now functioning pin). Books both in good nick.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 21 February, 2015, 02:41:43 pm
The second set arrived here today. Two books and a badge in one card pack, and the mug and another badge (for some reason) in the other.

Looks like Hachette have realised that they may have made a mistake in regards to putting the badge in with the books and have started to put them in with the mugs instead.

Which is probably why I got a second mug and a badge when I only requested a replacement badge.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 21 February, 2015, 03:38:03 pm
Well, they put one in with my book too (creating a massive dent in it and breaking the badge), along with the one in the mug (also broken).

To those who've been contacting Hachette, by the way, which channel have you been using?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 21 February, 2015, 03:41:06 pm
I downloaded the Facebook messenger app. Replies took 4 days. But this approach worked.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 21 February, 2015, 03:50:03 pm
Four days isn't good. But it also isn't terrible. If getting answers works that way that's good.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 21 February, 2015, 03:51:36 pm
If you just need a replacement issue ring up with your sub number - but be patient - much getting cut off and confusion.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 21 February, 2015, 04:03:19 pm
I'm in no hurry—I just don't want to be yelling into the wind. Ideally, I like to keep things in writing too—the phone's not a great communications medium when things need sorting. I'll try Facebook first and then email.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 22 February, 2015, 06:56:56 am
Well, they put one in with my book too (creating a massive dent in it and breaking the badge), along with the one in the mug (also broken).

To those who've been contacting Hachette, by the way, which channel have you been using?

I emailed their customer services and got a response (twice) in 24 hours.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: strangelysaucy on 22 February, 2015, 09:36:06 am
Well, they put one in with my book too (creating a massive dent in it and breaking the badge), along with the one in the mug (also broken).

To those who've been contacting Hachette, by the way, which channel have you been using?

I emailed their customer services and got a response (twice) in 24 hours.

Likewise - reply within 24 hours and replacement badge within a week.
Can't complain at all :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 22 February, 2015, 04:11:01 pm
While I had decided to make like Mega-City 2 and sit out the Apocalypse War (I own 4 versions already), my doting wife picked up a miss-priced copy anyway.  It's another very nice book, lovely crisp repro, and the colour cover gallery is most welcome: surprising how a 30 year-old story still engages on every page, with McMahon's and Dillon's episodes in particular looking like they could have been drawn yesterday.

Some of the captions  referencing 'Judge Caligula' betray the origins of the film as being the Titan volumes, which explains the absence of the colour spreads: obviously this is what Rebellion has to hand, the spreads may not exist in any useable form outside of a sustained hunt through collectorland, which for STG£10 seems unreasonable to expect. 

However, one thing emerged from this morning's reading: Tharg, if you're listening, I WILL buy a SIXTH copy of this story if you track down those centrespreads.  Promise.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 22 February, 2015, 07:03:40 pm
Since it seems some stories are getting spread out, "Blood and duty" (from Brothers of the blood.) showing up in America and "The Spirit of Christmas" (from Tour of Duty bk1) showing up in the end of Origins partwork book.

Any ideas if that'll for example means that Spirit of christmas won't show up in the first ToD book? Even if it isn't, I still think the flow of the story would be intact. Dredd's inspection of the camps is more than enough to make sense out of things without Dredd's threat of resignation being present. And the story is still in Origins, making it behind the scenes of sorts.

"Blood and duty" and "The spirit of Christmas" makes for really good stories to end both of the said books. Makes Dredd feel more complex. Not only is he having doubts about the system, but there's also regrets on Vienna.

I'd quite like if the Brothers of the blood material would be spread out. Blood and duty really fit the America book IMO, and I think it'd be really cool if "Brothers of the Blood" found it's way in the back of Total War together with "Caught in the Act" . Wouldn't mind if "The satanist" got omitted either, I think "Brothers of the blood" alone does a much better job with Vienna's place in the Dredd family.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 22 February, 2015, 07:39:13 pm
A question here.  I notice that Shamballa is a forthcoming book.  I have a very thin Anderson graphic novel entitled Shamballa, are you telling me that that is the only story I will get in that book, or are there other stories related to that that I will get?  The Shamballa book I have is a large format, but very slim one.  Same with Tale of A Dead man which had A Letter to Judge Dredd and Krakens assesment.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 22 February, 2015, 07:42:21 pm
A question here.  I notice that Shamballa is a forthcoming book.  I have a very thin Anderson graphic novel entitled Shamballa, are you telling me that that is the only story I will get in that book, or are there other stories related to that that I will get?

No, there's about six colour Grant/Ranson stories in the book, including Shamballa and Satan.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 22 February, 2015, 07:51:33 pm
All the books in this series are the same thikness so there are almost always supporting stories. They'll be picked to go along with the main story but could be from any period between 1977 and now regarding original publication.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 22 February, 2015, 07:52:51 pm
No, there's about six colour Grant/Ranson stories in the book, including Shamballa and Satan.

Ah, good to know, many thanks.  I would be kinda put off if that had been the case, but considering what they've done with America I didn't think they would.  Of the three books released so far, I had only read Apocalypse War.  I stopped reading 2000AD regularly when Rogue Trooper got messed up by a cliffhanger in the aftermath of the whole Nort and Souther command staff getting assasinated.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 22 February, 2015, 08:01:30 pm
(Welcome, Jade.) I know I was disappointed that AW hasn't been coloured but these really are scrotnig books. Haven't read Shamballa or Satan for yonks - really looking forward to that. Looking forward to Origins, too. Hope I can stay the course.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: SuperSurfer on 23 February, 2015, 12:16:17 am
I'm not going to be able to resist this series.

I picked up issue 3 (36!) today. Even though I read The Apocalypse War in Case Files 5 not that long ago, I am itching to tuck into this, as I caught up with listening to the Thrill Casts this weekend.

Pye-Parr mentioned in the Thrill Cast that the fine minimalist cover designs of the Mega Collection were influenced by a French hardback Batman collection (as suggested by Hachette). I guess it could be these beauties: http://myabsolutecollection.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/batman-dark-knight-returns-annee-un.html

And do check out the rest of that fine blog – 2000AD collections are also featured.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mike Carroll on 23 February, 2015, 11:54:02 am
Now I can relax! Books 2 & 3 have arrived - two whole weeks after the mug! - along with the badge (which, in my biased opinion, isn't as good as the Termight Replicas badge. Both books are a little damaged at the corners, but otherwise not too bad. Not so bad that I'll be requesting replacements.

Had a quick flip through and the contents look pretty nice indeed.

-- Mike
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 23 February, 2015, 05:17:58 pm
I did resist the temptations of the case files as there are, especially in the early years a lot of throwaway stories.  Some have aged better than others, and I would prefer a highlights.  It's true the price is good as recently I was looking at a Star Wars graphic novel in WH Smiths, far thinner and in softcover, and it was around the 13 quid mark.  So a larger hardcover is a good price.  When you think that new novels nowadays are about £8 rrp assuming a supermarket or whatever isn't running them cheaper, they really are good value.  The quality of the paper too is nice.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 23 February, 2015, 06:20:14 pm
On responses from Hachette, I heard back first-thing from someone who wanted my address. I replied and have been informed replacements for damaged items will be on the way as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mike Carroll on 23 February, 2015, 06:46:22 pm
Just had a thought... Aren't we supposed to get coasters with our second delivery? (I had a flick back through the pages here - until I got bored - but no one's mentioned them!)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 February, 2015, 08:56:51 pm
Didn't you get yours?




I would hazard a guess that we shall get these on the third delivery (for some). Perhaps they expected the second delivery to be after people bought the first one in the shops and the first delivery was book two and three, with the badge and mug! This moves the timetable of deliveries back, or forward :-X
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 23 February, 2015, 10:51:43 pm
Yeah, the site didn't make the gifts delivery very clear and does seem to assume that people are subscribing from issue 2 onwards. The small print on the subscribe page clears it up a bit:

For subscribers starting with issue 1, your first delivery will be issue 1 packaged by itself.

With your second delivery you will receive two issues (one FREE), and your FREE Replica Judge Dredd® Badge, and your FREE Takeaway Mug.

For people starting with issues 2, 3, or 4 you will receive two issues (one FREE), with the above gifts with your first delivery. Please note, these will be packaged in two batches.

With your second delivery, you will receive your FREE Judge Dredd® Tin Coasters (for people starting from issue 1, this will be delivered with your third delivery).

With your fourth delivery, you will receive your FREE Judge Dredd® Metal Bookends (for people starting from issue 1, this will be delivered with your fifth delivery.

Edit: It's also in the FAQ a few threads below :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mike Carroll on 23 February, 2015, 11:17:32 pm
Ah, thanks, Anzati! (I blame my lack of knowledge on my ancient laptop which can't seem to stay on-line for more than a couple of minutes at a time: I did try to visit the Mega Collection site, but it kept losing the connection.)

-- Mike
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 February, 2015, 04:18:26 pm
Johnny Vegas has got his

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-ny9MpXIAAuLBY.jpg:large)

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Is there a problem here citizen? Had my #JudgeDreddMegaCollection goodies awaiting my return home, cheers @2000AD
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 February, 2015, 04:50:17 pm
In the back of my mind I've been thinking that I'd seen the red on the black and white image type of style before and in the world of Dredd. I finally remembered to have a look while sat at the computer and I was correct, as IDW did some of these with their special editions.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/c7/8b/be/c78bbe91e04f67430e67fd52b89eb655.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BG4AcdGCcAE8it4.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jamie1000013 on 25 February, 2015, 08:28:08 am
In the back of my mind I've been thinking that I'd seen the red on the black and white image type of style before and in the world of Dredd. I finally remembered to have a look while sat at the computer and I was correct, as IDW did some of these with their special editions.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/c7/8b/be/c78bbe91e04f67430e67fd52b89eb655.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BG4AcdGCcAE8it4.jpg)

Is that handsigned by Carlos Esquerra or is it a digital sig?

Love the fact that they had a Russian Michael Parkinson in Apocalypse, his name was hilarious. First time reading this and block mania and it was really good. Can't wait for the next 2 and the thrillcasts!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 25 February, 2015, 10:25:17 am
Those pages are from the IDW special edition, not only are the images hand signed but they are hand drawn! You got a piece of original art with the book.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 25 February, 2015, 07:09:19 pm
My replacement issue 4 arrived today (exactly one week after it appeared on my account, so that seems to be the timescale for delivery). So far I'm quite happy with the customer service...although I've still not got by badge...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 26 February, 2015, 12:12:09 pm
I got two packages this morning: a replacement Apocalypse War, and a new badge (which I didn't ask for—I'd merely said mine were busted). The book was encased in bubble wrap, itself inside a bubble-wrap envelope. It arrived in perfect condition. If only that was the default mailing format (although I imagine it's more time-consuming and expensive than the card sleeve).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 26 February, 2015, 12:16:46 pm
I got refunded for the wrong payment taken & apocalypse war replaced. I have faith in hachette sorting out the problems. Seems like they just need to improve the packaging.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 26 February, 2015, 12:23:38 pm
To be fair to them, they're not alone. I ordered some books from WHSmith and they arrived in a state. Book Depository too. FPI's not been bad, and Amazon's usually reliable, but it's a crapshoot when you're using card alone. (Mrs G ordered something from Wordery recently, so that'll be my next experiment.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Teivion on 26 February, 2015, 12:25:21 pm
Has everyone had their part 2/3's yet ?

Have not had mine and dont want to chase if they're still shipping.....
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: NapalmKev on 26 February, 2015, 01:16:29 pm
Has everyone had their part 2/3's yet ?

Have not had mine and dont want to chase if they're still shipping.....

I've got 2 and 3, but still no America. No free gifts either.

Cheers
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 26 February, 2015, 01:34:20 pm
Got first 3, badge & mug. Plus replacement for 3.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 26 February, 2015, 02:13:27 pm
Has everyone had their part 2/3's yet ?

Have not had mine and dont want to chase if they're still shipping.....

Have you checked your account online? there seems to be a pattern with deliverys arriving 7 days after they appear on your account. If the dates on your account show longer than 7 days or if nothing is showing on your account, then I'd give them a call (even though they say to allow 14-28 days for delivery).

I only started my subscription from issue 3 on 5th Feb, but my first delivery was issues 2 and 3 on 14th Feb, and I've since had issue 2 replaced with issue 4...I've had the mug, but no badge yet. However customer services have been very helpful when I've contacted them, both through facebook and phone.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 26 February, 2015, 02:17:04 pm
Yeah, I'd echo that. Despite people bitching like crazy on Facebook, I can't say anything negative about Hachette's customer service so far. Fast response via Facebook, and my replacement within the same working week. They've also stated several times on Facebook that they're looking into improving shipping times, although the mob's still not happy, because NOW NOW WANT NOW ENTITLED FACE

Good grief, Facebook is depressing sometimes.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Teivion on 26 February, 2015, 02:49:42 pm
My subscription was a 'work related gift' shall we say, so I'll drop my contacts a line ....

I left Facebook during December as its normally a depressing, moany place with too many egos and cat videos screaming for attention.
I just drop in now and then now, just to see what calamity the internet is facing ;-)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 26 February, 2015, 06:20:22 pm
anyone got the next batch after apocalypse war?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 26 February, 2015, 09:41:11 pm
I'm not expecting my next batch until 7th March at the earliest...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Pete Wells on 26 February, 2015, 10:58:15 pm
Has everyone had their part 2/3's yet ?

Have not had mine and dont want to chase if they're still shipping.....

Still not got my 2&3 or the gift either Teivion.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 27 February, 2015, 12:11:42 pm
Ive received 2 &3 plus mugs and badges (2 of each!).
My issues of 4 & 5 have yet to be sent but some people on my Twitter timeline have received theirs today with their coasters.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 27 February, 2015, 01:19:34 pm
They are very nice coaster except the plain judge dredd one looks blurry
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Arkwright99 on 27 February, 2015, 03:49:40 pm
My issues of 4 & 5 have yet to be sent but some people on my Twitter timeline have received theirs today with their coasters.
I received issues 4 & 5, plus badge and mug (intact), in the post this morning. Which is about three weeks earlier than I was expecting to get them.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 27 February, 2015, 04:06:33 pm
We're these your first subscription issues?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Arkwright99 on 27 February, 2015, 04:20:50 pm
We're these your first subscription issues?
Yes; started my sub with #4.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 27 February, 2015, 04:37:47 pm
I think that makes you first in the queue for 4&5 as the rest of us only get one delivery per month. Does shamballa have any extras?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 27 February, 2015, 05:14:07 pm
It has a hefty article written by Molcher
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Arkwright99 on 27 February, 2015, 05:16:46 pm
The extras are a gallery (3 covers) and a 5-page essay by Michael Molcher. Matt Smith also reveals the title of Mega Collection Volume 8 in his introduction 'The Possessed' along with the creative teams involved in the stories John Wagner & Alan Grant, Brett Ewins, Cliff Robinson & Barry Kitson so we can probably guess the contents of that issue.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 27 February, 2015, 05:28:20 pm
Thanks for that. Is Shamballa number 10 or 9 on the spine then? I'm glad there's text by Molcher. I think these pieces and the podcast help to see these works in context and with fresh eyes.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 27 February, 2015, 05:30:39 pm
it's number 10
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 27 February, 2015, 05:35:12 pm
Cheers - guess we can look forward to 4 or more Anderson volumes.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 28 February, 2015, 08:28:20 am
The extras are a gallery (3 covers) and a 5-page essay by Michael Molcher. Matt Smith also reveals the title of Mega Collection Volume 8 in his introduction 'The Possessed' along with the creative teams involved in the stories John Wagner & Alan Grant, Brett Ewins, Cliff Robinson & Barry Kitson so we can probably guess the contents of that issue.

It'll be this book? http://www.2000adonline.com/books/judge_anderson_anderson_psi_division.php Four Dark Judges/Revenge, The Possessed, Hour of the Wolf... and what more?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 28 February, 2015, 09:54:00 am
Any ideas on how well this is doing? It is spreading thrill power around my workplace that's for sure. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Judge Olde on 28 February, 2015, 10:12:06 am
I'm not sure how long I will stick with this, books are lovely, spine numbers are in no particular order. 1 was great, certainly as easy as just picking it up in the shops. 2 & 3 along with the badge turned up, but was too big to be posted & so had to go & pick up from post office. 3 was damaged (perhaps by the shrink wrap), I emailed customer service & asked what the next 3 books are going to be, to which they replied 4, 5 & 6 - helpful I thought  :lol: Now seen they're Anderson & then Origins (not sure how many copies I'll need of this) & looking forward to Mandroid.

Anyone know what's due to come along after those?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 28 February, 2015, 10:32:39 am
3 was damaged
As was mine. I mentioned this to Hachette and had a pristine replacement four days later.

As for upcoming books, I've thought about this and I don't really want a full list. I like not really knowing what's coming, and I can't imagine Matt Smith's going to push any crap on us (Volume 22: Sonny Steelgrave's Greatest Hits!).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 28 February, 2015, 10:35:58 am
Vol 13: the Mark Millar Mega Mix. Z :(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Pete Wells on 28 February, 2015, 03:56:01 pm
Cup, badge, coaters, and numbers 4 & 5 all arrived today, while the long wait for 2 & 3 continue!

They are things of beauty though!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 28 February, 2015, 05:05:39 pm
Vol 13: the Mark Millar Mega Mix. Z :(

Vol 69: The Sex Issue Remastered
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 28 February, 2015, 05:23:09 pm
Volume IV: Styx and Stones, (The Alpha Addendum Collection).
.
Volume C: Robo-Hunter - Part 1, (The Twoothy Attachment Collection).
.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 28 February, 2015, 07:57:24 pm
Thargs given enough info to keep me excited - I think a definitive list might take away the surprise and speculation. I'd pay extra to receive the books individually fortnightly.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 28 February, 2015, 08:32:50 pm
The extras are a gallery (3 covers) and a 5-page essay by Michael Molcher.

You know, I'm glad to hear that.  I really felt that so far they've missed a trick with the commentary, particularly on Apocalypse War.  That story was so much a product of its time, as so many others have been.  Some of the Titan introductions did an excellent job of putting it in that context.  If there is a more in depth discussion of the issues that the storyline is addressing as well as artistic issues (many of which have been covered over the years in the meg) then it would make for a far more impressive collection I would say.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 28 February, 2015, 09:13:45 pm
I emailed customer service & asked what the next 3 books are going to be, to which they replied 4, 5 & 6


Genius!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 01 March, 2015, 11:42:21 am
I think the podcast for apocalypse war did an amazing job of putting the story in context. Really hope they continue.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 01 March, 2015, 01:31:33 pm
I think the podcast for apocalypse war did an amazing job of putting the story in context.

Damn good listen too - Carlos is a genuine smoothie. I know what people mean when they look for new text pieces, but there are going to be 80 of these things so plenty of words by the time we're done, and I'd be all for jamming in as many comics pages to make for satisfying books. No offense to Mike and Matt, but I want comics where at all possible.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Proudhuff on 01 March, 2015, 07:05:51 pm
So no more mentions of Paul Gadd  Block?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 02 March, 2015, 07:00:42 pm
I wonder if current stories could be included in the mega collection. In three years time perhaps Dark Justice could be re-released by Hachette. Did the similar Marvel Collection print anything recent?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 02 March, 2015, 09:46:36 pm
Call me naive, but I suspect Rebellion would like to see consumers of the Mega Collection spend additional dosh on a shiny full-price Dark Justice hardback.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Molch-R on 02 March, 2015, 10:54:02 pm
I think the podcast for apocalypse war did an amazing job of putting the story in context.

Damn good listen too - Carlos is a genuine smoothie. I know what people mean when they look for new text pieces, but there are going to be 80 of these things so plenty of words by the time we're done, and I'd be all for jamming in as many comics pages to make for satisfying books. No offense to Mike and Matt, but I want comics where at all possible.

None taken - it's all determined by how much comics we can fit into each book. Some books will have a page of feature content, others will have several. We're also trying to keep the content fresh, mixing interviews with contextual background.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 03 March, 2015, 01:18:07 am
Call me naive, but I suspect Rebellion would like to see consumers of the Mega Collection spend additional dosh on a shiny full-price Dark Justice hardback.

true.

but how sexy would a Titan volume be....


Hummmmmm....Titan.....
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jamie1000013 on 03 March, 2015, 06:21:42 am
Do you think we'll get 4 and 5 today so we get Origins before the shops do? I'm very doubtful but would love it if that was the case. When I was getting the Marvel ultimate collection I didn't really care when they come but with this it gives me something to really look forward to each month, especially because I am quite new to 2000ad and the megazine (started at 1900).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 03 March, 2015, 10:34:01 am
On the additional material, I rather like it. Given the option of a semi-random five-pager or five pages of context about what's in the book, I'd happily take the latter. To me, the context is one of the things that will make this series special (the other being the format). One thing I would like to see though (and if Rebellion or Hachette don't do this, I'll do it myself)—some kind of really nice index card you can slot into book one, once the series is done, so you can actually find the book you want. (I'm pretty sure my brain's not going to go "36 = Apocalypse War" a few years down the road.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 03 March, 2015, 11:03:04 am
(I'm pretty sure my brain's not going to go "36 = Apocalypse War" a few years down the road.)

We should work on some clever bingo-style mnemonic in the meantime.

"Number One, Bodyswap Fun!"
"At Thirty-Six, in a Nuclear Fix!"
"A-2-and-a-4, Mad Robot Law!'
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 03 March, 2015, 01:09:37 pm
Do you think we'll get 4 and 5 today so we get Origins before the shops do?

Yesterday (Monday) my W H Smith had a pile of the softcover 'Origins' newly placed with the progs.
14.99 you say?! Hm... no sale!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 03 March, 2015, 01:18:29 pm
I thought it was £9.99?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 03 March, 2015, 02:30:48 pm
The Origins trade (http://shop.2000adonline.com/products/judge_dredd_origins) is 16 quid RRP. The Origins partworks book is a tenner.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 04 March, 2015, 03:04:00 pm
Another glorious book in Issue 4, really making me wish I could subscribe since I seem to be buying all the bloody things anyway (maybe hardbacks are the disease, and Brit Cit Brute is the cure!).  Walker's art on The Connection is gobsmacking, and in collected form it reads less like a shaggy dog story and more like an essential tension-builder. Lots of nice sketches from Carlos in the back - such furious energy!

I had wondered about the sense of including The Spirit of Christmas, since I think if takes away from the ambiguity of the ending and perhaps forms a better link for the start a Tour of Duty book. However, having seen it in place the rightness is apparent, if only to cement Colin's place as chronicler of the big beats.

Oh, and because it continues to amuse me and only me:

Forty-five - Fargo's alive!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Echidna on 04 March, 2015, 06:41:45 pm
Forty-five - Fargo's alive!

I can't not read that in the voice of Brian Blessed.

Number ten: Tibetan Zen!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 04 March, 2015, 07:16:48 pm
Four down.....

(http://i.imgur.com/ToJQx7X.jpg)

And as someone who ummed and ahhed about going for these, im glad I did. They are indeed handsome looking books.

I didn't really look around for these when the launch happened. I simply found a shop that stocked the first one, and have continued to shop there ever since.
Today however, they had only the one copy, and I had to hunt that down. Hidden as it was amongst the rest of the magazines. When in the past it was in clear view, and they had 3, or 4 copies.

Is it typical for these collections to become less 'visible' after a while. I guess if they are selling then the shop keep on getting them in. And of course I can always place an order to guarantee my copy.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 04 March, 2015, 08:12:44 pm
Looks like the ratio of decent folk to dolts on Facebook is increasing, too, which is good to see. Fewer people whining about not getting their copy before it hits the stores; more people patiently explaining how partworks are usually distributed, or just saying they're happy.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin Zeal on 05 March, 2015, 08:11:12 am
Picked up my copy from wh smith yesterday. I had so much trouble in finding it I was about ready to give up when I saw someone else at the till with a copy. It's another lovely edition.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin YNWA on 05 March, 2015, 08:21:17 am
...I had so much trouble in finding it I was about ready to give up when I saw someone else at the till with a copy...

You make it sound like you wrestled it off them - now that's dedication!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 05 March, 2015, 08:40:32 am
Received my copies of 4 & 5 this morning along with the coasters.

These really are beautiful books and this is going to be a stunning series once it's complete.

Very happy with the books and the gifts.

Glad I subscribed.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin Zeal on 05 March, 2015, 09:44:36 am
...I had so much trouble in finding it I was about ready to give up when I saw someone else at the till with a copy...


You make it sound like you wrestled it off them - now that's dedication!

Sadly not. He got out of the shop before I could ask him where he'd found it, so I still had another few minutes wandering round the shop before I found it with the newspapers. Why it wasn't with the comics or the section with the Origins and Fourth Faction trades is beyond me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 05 March, 2015, 11:06:19 am
Forty-five - Fargo's alive!

that got a chuckle out of me  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Proudhuff on 05 March, 2015, 12:28:07 pm
Hivemind Q: Whats  the content of this origins vs the TPB like?

For our Cal-Hab readers: all RS McColls branches I checked have carried these... just staying.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 05 March, 2015, 01:48:08 pm
Hivemind Q: Whats  the content of this origins vs the TPB like?

For our Cal-Hab readers: all RS McColls branches I checked have carried these... just staying.

Content-wise I noted the olde trade states 192 pgs so I presumed much the same content. Wondered the same...

Ta on RS McColl. I fear after the launch kerfuffle I won't see more books in WH Smith (locally). As a tart who will pick up books here and there, looked forward to Origins so bought direct from Hachette this morning. Beats eBay.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: dweezil2 on 05 March, 2015, 01:55:19 pm
How do subscribers who subscribed to the test run go about updating their subscription to the premium service, securing the art prints?

Many thanks.

Dweezil.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 05 March, 2015, 01:57:26 pm
Just ring up - they'll adds pound to each issue. Or send an email & wait 4 days.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: dweezil2 on 05 March, 2015, 01:58:50 pm
Just ring up - they'll adds pound to each issue. Or send an email & wait 4 days.


Many thanks dude!   ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: sheridan on 05 March, 2015, 02:05:14 pm
I still had another few minutes wandering round the shop before I found it with the newspapers. Why it wasn't with the comics or the section with the Origins and Fourth Faction trades is beyond me.
Have you seen what passes for comics these days?  You wouldn't want it with all the plastic-bagged plastic-toy collections (Phoenix excepted, though I gather the only supermarket you'll see that in is Waitrose).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Proudhuff on 05 March, 2015, 02:12:07 pm
Hivemind Q: Whats  the content of this origins vs the TPB like?

For our Cal-Hab readers: all RS McColls branches I checked have carried these... just staying.

Content-wise I noted the olde trade states 192 pgs so I presumed much the same content. Wondered the same...

Ta on RS McColl. I fear after the launch kerfuffle I won't see more books in WH Smith (locally). As a tart who will pick up books here and there, looked forward to Origins so bought direct from Hachette this morning. Beats eBay.

Hi Fungus, thought so, just wondering if there was any additional text/art pages, gonna buy this anyway, today possibly, so will let you know ...
Loving this series nice heavy weight hard back, artwork treated with respect and some thought put into the spines... I'm here for the long run now, I'm hooked.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 05 March, 2015, 02:26:18 pm
Can't remember what's in the trade, but in the MegaCollection you get a half page intro from Tharg, The Connection, Origins, The Spirit of Christmas, a page of context from Mike, two pages of cover gallery and two pages of layout sketches from Carlos.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 05 March, 2015, 04:41:14 pm
The trade contains a covers and a sketchbook gallery as well. Though the images used in the sketchbook are not the same for the two releases
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 05 March, 2015, 04:50:21 pm
Incidentally, I recently managed to grab the first 60 Marvel books and some extras on eBay for about £200. Comparisons with the Dredd collection are interesting. The Dredd books feel more substantial than the majority of the Marvel ones. The design is a whole lot better too. But most of all, the curation feels more coherent through the books so far released. It'll be really interesting to see the entire Dredd run, assuming it lasts the course.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 05 March, 2015, 04:52:04 pm
The trade contains a covers and a sketchbook gallery as well. Though the images used in the sketchbook are not the same for the two releases

Cheers! Turns out I was underselling the Hachette book - there are actually 6 pages of sketches and 4 pages of covers.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 March, 2015, 05:47:02 pm
Huzzah, the neighbour took in my parcels today. All Dredd and one was book 4 and 5 plus the coasters (Books 10 and 45 really) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 05 March, 2015, 06:34:09 pm
Huzzah, the neighbour took in my parcels today. All Dredd and one was book 4 and 5 plus the coasters (Books 10 and 45 really) :thumbsup:

Ditto ... nicely sized package waiting.  Had a flick and read the article in the Shambala volume.  As these are all stories I've not read in a while this is one to savour at the weekend.  I was impressed with the article though.  The meg has done a lot over the years about the methods of various artists and a handful of writers (could be wrong there though) so it was nice to have a focus on the evolution of the character.  Coasters are a nice little gizzit.  Kudos for the little container they came in.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 05 March, 2015, 07:02:48 pm
I only managed a quick look inside before work but did notice 6 pages of sketches/layouts in Origins and a hefty article by Mike in Shambala. Will read that in bed tomorrow morning!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jamie1000013 on 05 March, 2015, 10:17:49 pm
I received my 4 & 5 today as well which was awesome. The shops had it a day earlier!!! Just kidding I have been busy  reading the Cable and deadpool omnibus and now I really want to read Origins. I find it hard reading two collections at the same time because I don't get invested in the story as much with another story lingering in the back of my mind. I really want to listen to the podcast as well but fear spoilers.

I'll have to rush through the omnibus with 36 issues left  :'(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 05 March, 2015, 11:10:14 pm
Loved Molcher's text piece for Anderson. Good work, sir!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mardroid on 06 March, 2015, 12:03:43 am
My parcel of 4 and 5 was waiting for me when I got home.

The box seems oversized, even taking intop account it contains coasters too, and there's not padding to protect the items....

.. yet they arrived undamaged. Which was nice. I haven't opened the volumes yet (although I own Origins already in paperback format, and  that before. Incidentally Origins was just finishing up when I first started reading 2000 AD.) but they look smashing. The art on the coasters is particularly lovely.

I also got a letter which spoke to me like this wasa my first order. I guess it's a general letter that goes out to everyone.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 06 March, 2015, 02:17:13 pm
i'm amazed by the design of these things. The front & rear covers, plus end papers feel like a high end book collection. Very impressed.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Molch-R on 06 March, 2015, 02:27:47 pm
Loved Molcher's text piece for Anderson. Good work, sir!

That's really nice of you, thanks!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Buttonman on 06 March, 2015, 04:50:44 pm
Got my 4 and 5 today - lovely stuff.

I'm sure one on my 'Dredd' coasters has in fact a Carlos image of Kraken on it! Outraged!

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Judge Brian on 06 March, 2015, 05:33:12 pm
So, if these are sold at news agents & book stores as periodicals, what happens to the unsold copies? Could the unsold copies be offered to other countries, such as the US?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Molch-R on 06 March, 2015, 05:34:26 pm
So, if these are sold at news agents & book stores as periodicals, what happens to the unsold copies? Could the unsold copies be offered to other countries, such as the US?

No, the collection isn't sold outside the UK and Ireland for licensing reasons. Unsold copies are, I believe, returned to Hachette.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Judge Brian on 06 March, 2015, 05:35:34 pm
So, if these are sold at news agents & book stores as periodicals, what happens to the unsold copies? Could the unsold copies be offered to other countries, such as the US?

No, the collection isn't sold outside the UK and Ireland for licensing reasons. Unsold copies are, I believe, returned to Hachette.

Drok!


Love your thrillcast BTW.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moly on 06 March, 2015, 07:15:03 pm
The better half picked up a parcel from the post office and they had my issue 4 and 5 plus tea coasters very happy shame the postie didn't leave a card
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 06 March, 2015, 07:21:54 pm
I assume from the prices on the back of the books they are for sale in NZ AUS & South Africa?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: J.Smith on 06 March, 2015, 11:25:20 pm
Yep, got the latest two volumes myself. The contents of Origins is nothing new to me, excepting the short articles and lovely gallery of Ezquerra's sketches; but the fifth book is all new to me and I couldn't resist leafing through page by page. Earlier this year I read Buttonman and considered Arthur Ranson's artwork absolutely incredible in that series but going through these pages simply left me speechless. Please someone tell me these aren't the only Anderson stories illustrated by him and that we've more to come in the future.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: JOE SOAP on 07 March, 2015, 02:06:48 am
Please someone tell me these aren't the only Anderson stories illustrated by him


Anderson: Psi Division (with Alan Grant):

"Triad" (in 2000 AD #635-644, 1989)
"Shamballa" (in 2000 AD #700-711, 1990)
"Reasons to Be Cheerful" (in Judge Dredd Megazine vol. 2 #10, 1992)
"The Witch?" (in Judge Dredd Megazine vol. 2 #14, 1992)
"Jesus Syndrome" (in Judge Dredd Megazine vol.2 #22-24, 1993)
"Satan" (in Judge Dredd Megazine vol. 3 #1-7, 1995)
"The Protest" (in Judge Dredd Megazine vol. 3 #14, 1996)
"R*Evolution" (in 2000 AD #1263-1272, 2001)
"Half-Life" (in Judge Dredd Megazine #214-217, 2004)
"WMD " (in Judge Dredd Megazine #221-226, 2004)
"Lock-in " (in Judge Dredd Megazine #227-230, 2005)
"City Of Dead" (in Judge Dredd Megazine #231-236, 2005)
"Lucid" (in Judge Dredd Megazine #238-241, 2005)




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Ranson
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Darren Stephens on 07 March, 2015, 09:16:08 am
I have the first four books. Loved them all so far. I'd never read the Apocalypse War and only an episode or three of Origins, so my thrill buffers have been blasted over the last few weeks!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 07 March, 2015, 09:20:50 am
Just read Origins for the first time - Wow! Just the scope of it all.  Love the tying in to Curse Earth stories & Judda amongst others...
SPOILER ALERT

When we first see Dredd & Rico as clones they are 2 of 6. Do the others reappear in Dreddlore or did I miss them dying?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richard on 07 March, 2015, 01:24:43 pm
I don't think it said that the other 4 were necessarily Fargo clones.

Only one of them is named - McVey - and he is not in any other story.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 07 March, 2015, 02:24:27 pm
Did anyone who signed up for the trial run get a bill for both issues 4 and 5 with the delivery?  I did, but I'm sure I had an email from Hachette confirming that the first 4 would be free.  Does anyone else remember getting this?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 07 March, 2015, 02:58:21 pm
Similar problem - I upgraded to premium then got charged for issue 3, which was refunded. Don't stress - put it in an email with your subscriber and they'll credit your account. It will take s couple of weeks and they'll keep asking for your original subscriber number (even though it's the same.) Be patient - it will get sorted!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 07 March, 2015, 04:07:29 pm
Oh aye, I'm stressed.  Just curious to see if anyone had come across the same issue.  I figured it's the sort of thing that's easily sorted.  In the meantime, everything I've had has been absolutely beautiful so if it costs me an extra tenner I'll live with it!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 07 March, 2015, 04:08:19 pm
NOT stressed.  I'm not stressed.

Although I am stressed now about not writing NOT stressed in my original reply....
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 07 March, 2015, 05:53:37 pm
Not sure where to place these, but as the latest Hachette release is Origins , I thought it would be nice to share these on here (taken from the Art of Carlos Ezquerra page, for those not on facebook)

The real origin of Dredd...

(http://i.imgur.com/uwZbz2w.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/DSIXUcs.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ManParrish on 07 March, 2015, 09:24:53 pm
Does anyone know what 6 and 7 will be?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 07 March, 2015, 09:27:36 pm
Does anyone know what 6 and 7 will be?
6 is Mandroid.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 07 March, 2015, 10:32:25 pm
Any bets for what's next? Classic B&W dredd? Cursed Earth?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ManParrish on 07 March, 2015, 10:42:50 pm
Looking forward to reading Cursed Earth again...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 08 March, 2015, 07:13:15 pm
Okay, four books in and so far I'm impressed.  I've only ever read one before (Apocalypse War), though I have a feeling I read a least a small part of the America arc before.

I have a few questions though.  Will we ever get the full Judda story?  All I've ever read is the thin Tale of a Dead Man with Krakens assesment and the Juves letter to Judge Dredd, and Necropolis.  I see there's a hint of Judd in Origins but do we get the full story?

I see the next book is Shamballa, again, all I've had of that was the very thin graphic novel and I've been told that this is going to have Satan and other storylines in the next book.

Really, I'm happy at the books so far, they represent good value.  If you consider it's easily a fiver for a magazine now, or if you buy one of these themed specials from places like Smiths on Aircraft, trains or whatever, they can easily be eight or nine quid for a softcover that might be at best just over a 100 pages.  In contrast, £9.99 for a hardback is damned good value.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 08 March, 2015, 07:17:42 pm
The Judda story was done in depth in Oz the Dredd story from 1987 prog 545 onwards. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 08 March, 2015, 07:47:13 pm
All I've ever read is the thin Tale of a Dead Man with Krakens assesment and the Juves letter to Judge Dredd, and Necropolis.  I see there's a hint of Judd in Origins but do we get the full story?

I was thinking today what the Necropolis book will contain? (Has this tale been earmarked for inclusion? Though I cant see a reason as to why it shouldn't be).

Be nice to have all the Dead Man tales included. Be a nice book that, if so.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 08 March, 2015, 08:04:44 pm
I really hope the dead man gets in - plus Return of the King - a great finish to Necropolis
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 08 March, 2015, 08:38:40 pm
Oh yes, good call on Return of the King.

But just looking at the page counts over on Barney, it'll realistically have to be 2 books. But a nice complete Dead Man collection, followed by Necropolis - plus those stories that followed in its immediate aftermath, would be very nice indeed.

I always kinda struggled a bit with Necropolis, and have been meaning to give it a re-read/reappraisal for some time, and this will be the perfect opportunity to do so
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 08 March, 2015, 08:47:07 pm
Aye, not a hope of a single package.  Necropolis on its own is 162 pages, with Countdown to Necropolis 196 in total .  The Dead Man is 81, but makes little sense including that without Tale of the Dead Man at 54 and Letter to Judge Dredd at 6, bringing it to another 140: so over 340 pages with title page and covers gallery.

Return of the King would add another 18 pages.  And that's leaving out the equally relevant immediate follow-up Nightmares at 30 pages. 

I suspect that we're looking at a separate Bloodline/Shooting Match/Dead Man/Tale of the Dead Man book, maybe with a few other great 'doubts' episodes like Question of Judgement/Case for Treatment, John Cassavettes is Dead etc.  I'd like a slice of that action.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 08 March, 2015, 09:04:18 pm
I loved the build up to Necropolis & Aftermath stories as much if not more than the main event. I hope as much of this period of Dredd makes it into the Mega Collection.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 08 March, 2015, 09:23:50 pm
I loved the build up to Necropolis & Aftermath stories as much if not more than the main event.

Same here, robert. I think for me it was Wagner and Ridgway's The Dead Man that blew my socks off, and anything after that just seemed pale by comparison.


I suspect that we're looking at a separate Bloodline/Shooting Match/Dead Man/Tale of the Dead Man book, maybe with a few other great 'doubts' episodes like Question of Judgement/Case for Treatment, John Cassavettes is Dead etc.  I'd like a slice of that action.

Yes. Put me down for a slice of that, as well Mr T.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 09 March, 2015, 04:11:33 pm
Hachette have confirmed Inferno as being included. Here's hoping for Purgatory as well. I know there's not always love for these stories but I love the artwork and the change of pace.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 09 March, 2015, 04:19:44 pm
Hachette have confirmed Inferno as being included. Here's hoping for Purgatory as well. I know there's not always love for these stories but I love the artwork and the change of pace.
Ugh. That's the first wobble, I think; Inferno is an objectively terrible story. Purgatory is, if anything, even worse, crapping over years of Dredd. For a curated collection, it's a very strange inclusion, unless names (Morrison/Miller) trump quality. It won't stop me subscribing, but I hope whatever else shows up that month isn't similarly awful and that the vast majority of the collection doesn't plumb such depths.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 09 March, 2015, 04:23:44 pm
Hachette have confirmed Inferno as being included. Here's hoping for Purgatory as well. I know there's not always love for these stories but I love the artwork and the change of pace.

I have no idea what the general opinion on these is, alls I know is that I'm reading them for the first time and they are godawful. Pap, if you will. Written by writers who weren't interested (in UK comics). Like Judgment Day before them. Waste of Carlos, I say.

Hachette could skip the 90's and save the completists out there a few Groats  :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Proudhuff on 09 March, 2015, 04:30:06 pm
Should we talk about the spines here or on the spines thread?  :-*y
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mike Carroll on 09 March, 2015, 04:32:53 pm
Issues 4 and 5 arrived today... Not in great condition, but a little better than the last two. This time, they were packaged with the coasters in a very large box that they would have rattled around in had the box not been severely squashed.

-- Mike
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 09 March, 2015, 04:36:34 pm
Yeah, the box was ludicrous in size. It had a massive FRAGILE pasted all over and when it was handed over to me, with a rattle, I wondered what was inside. When I opened it and saw the contents, well, I had to laugh. Who on earth is packing this stuff!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 09 March, 2015, 05:01:48 pm
I did see a photo of the first 4 books together somewhere, neatly arranged. Except that for one volume the cover was clearly buckled (maybe dropped due to excessive Thrill-Power). Surely not promotional material  ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 09 March, 2015, 05:03:24 pm
Yeah, the box was ludicrous in size. It had a massive FRAGILE pasted all over and when it was handed over to me, with a rattle, I wondered what was inside. When I opened it and saw the contents, well, I had to laugh. Who on earth is packing this stuff!

People on £2.30 an hour who really couldn't give a fuck about your books that would cost them a days wages to buy, is my guess.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 09 March, 2015, 05:33:05 pm
The books are quickly replaced by Hachette so I've stopped worrying about the condition. As for the inclusion of maybe less than stellar material - I think that often in Dredd there have been a variety of genre's & levels of storytelling. I love the current trend for police procedural, but I prefer it interrupted by sensitive Kleggs. Purgatory & inferno had a  "grind-house" intensity albeit helped by solid art which elevated them above the Mechanismo repetitious sequels. The strength of this series (& longevity of Dredd) is variety - here's to all the glorious miss-steps & curious cul-de-sacs of Megacity One.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Frank on 09 March, 2015, 05:36:00 pm
Written by writers who weren't interested (in UK comics). Like Judgment Day before them

Morrison and Millar clearly wear their underpants over their tights, but Garth Ennis is a 2000ad fanboy (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=25992.0) *. That's why much of his Dredd work feels like karaoke, rather than the distinctive voice of something like Preacher. Once Ennis got to the point in his career when he could write whatever he wanted, he set about creating a small outpost of 1970s British boys' comics in the pages of Bloody Mary, Just A Pilgrim, and Adventures In The Rifle Brigade.

Inferno suffers from almost the same problem as Ennis's Dredd efforts. It's just Wagner & Grant's Greatest Hits, although in Morrison's case that's because he's regurgitating the Titan trades Tharg sent him to read out of laziness, rather than because he's awed at following in Wagner's footsteps. You would have thought a writer who trumpets his originality would have impress his own genius upon Inferno, but he was going bald and doing a lot of drugs at the time.

Inferno is entirely without merit in its own right and adds nothing to the development of the Dredd epic, but I actually really enjoyed the gleeful, preposterous, operatic sadism of Purgatory at the time - even if I acknowledge every point made about how it makes no sense whatsoever. Carlos's artwork is peerless though; he deserves every penny that's coming his way from these reprints, and I'll be buying the book just for the last flourish of his gorgeous coloured ink style.


* The kind of fanboy who thinks the comic ceased publication when he hit puberty, but we all went through that phase
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Greg M. on 09 March, 2015, 05:52:07 pm

Inferno is entirely without merit in its own right and adds nothing to the development of the Dredd epic, but I actually really enjoyed the gleeful, preposterous, operatic sadism of Purgatory at the time - even if I acknowledge every point made about how it makes no sense whatsoever.

I find myself in agreement with this. It’s odd – Purgatory is undoubtedly complete rubbish but it’s got something about it. I definitely prefer it to Inferno –  Inferno features a particularly stupid incarnation of Judge Dredd doing stupid things for stupid reasons, but Purgatory focuses on a bunch of awful people doing awful things for fairly clear reasons, so that wins. Plus, I have a weird soft spot for the 'Never trust a hippy' callback.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 09 March, 2015, 06:11:58 pm
What's the max page count on the books? Seems like there's a set number of max. pages?

Would be cool if some of the stories would get a p.1 and p.2. For example The pit could get be a two parter, with the second part including Beyond the call of duty and Scorpion dance.

Also, could Chopper's solo progs fill/fit a book? Unamerican G, Midnight surfer, Soul of fire and Song of the surfer?

Hope Oz ends with Bloodline (perhaps also Cadet Giant as a back up story, who needs to be in there somewhere.) and then getting followed by two Necropolis books.  Book one Letter from a democrat, Revolution, Letter to Judge Dredd, Tales of the Dead man and the first parts of Necropolis, with book two finishing things and adding The Theatre of Death, Nightmares, The Devil You Know and Twilight's Last Gleaming.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 09 March, 2015, 06:16:45 pm
I'm struggling with the prospect of Inferno being placed in this run. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 09 March, 2015, 06:20:30 pm
Relax. Chill. And be happy with what comes. It's Dredd. There is not really, really shit Dredd in my opinion.

I don't want to know what's next.

I just want to get it and enjoy.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 09 March, 2015, 06:36:57 pm
It's Dredd. There is not really, really shit Dredd in my opinion.

Then I see your Inferno and raise you Heavy Metal Dredd and IDW's Dark Judge pokemon.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 09 March, 2015, 06:40:06 pm
I'll stake a crusade. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richard on 09 March, 2015, 08:25:02 pm
Inferno was a crap story, but it is a showcase of Ezquerra's best art.

The best thing they could do is white out all the speech balloons and let us write in our own dialogue. Bet every reader could write a better story of their own!

I agree with the comments about Purgatory: it's not very good, but it is still fun.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 09 March, 2015, 08:48:07 pm
It's Dredd. There is not really, really shit Dredd in my opinion.

Then I see your Inferno and raise you Heavy Metal Dredd and IDW's Dark Judge pokemon.

I'll take those and raise you and Marvel comic you like.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 09 March, 2015, 08:58:54 pm
The strength of this series (& longevity of Dredd) is variety - here's to all the glorious miss-steps & curious cul-de-sacs of Megacity One.
Part of the strength of Dredd, I agree, is the variety. But I don't want to celebrate mis-steps and garbage in a curated collection of hardback books that's going to cost about 800 quid over its run. (I imagine the absolute dross of Heavy Metal Dredd will also show up at some point, but at least a few of those have some knowing black humour from Wagner.)

For me, the Case Files are about everything and the kitchen sink, and the stinky goop down the plughole. This series is supposed to be the best content. Inferno is barely any better than 'Sonny Steelgrave' Dredd. Purgatory is just horrible in every sense of the word.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: I, Cosh on 09 March, 2015, 09:00:17 pm
I'll stake a crusade. Z
I quite like both Crusades. The Dredd one is easily the best of Me & Gwant's longer efforts on the character.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: aceface11 on 09 March, 2015, 10:01:22 pm
I'll stake a crusade. Z
I quite like both Crusades. The Dredd one is easily the best of Me & Gwant's longer efforts on the character.

There were two Crusades? I have a soft spot for the first(?) one, around prog 921 I think it was. My first prog! Previously my dad had bought me an American floppy that included Robo Hunter, followed by a Meg (The Tenth Planet/Wilderlands)... I still remember the cover strap 'meet the Inquisitor this prog!

Matt
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 09 March, 2015, 10:48:23 pm
I really had a change of heart re-reading the Arthur Ranson collection. The text pages made me consider the introspective nature of stories. All I wanted was the sassy glamorous action heroine of the Brett Ewins era. I appreciate now the risks taken with her - and the need to have a counterpoint to joe. I still prefer the character we saw in earlier stories. I'm trusting Matt Smith & Molcher to choose well for both connoisseurs & thrill junkies with this series. Perhaps even if a well written intro can't persuade fans that much derided stories are really diamonds, this series can explain what was being tried at the time and the lessons learned. Whilst showcasing amazing art!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: James Stacey on 10 March, 2015, 12:35:39 pm
some of the Marvel partworks had part one and two. I'm sure the same will apply here
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Albion on 10 March, 2015, 12:46:40 pm
some of the Marvel partworks had part one and two. I'm sure the same will apply here

Indeed they do. There is a three book story coming too.
I have book one of a Nick Fury collection waiting for book two so I can read them together. Annoyingly book two isn't due until August. :-(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 10 March, 2015, 12:54:32 pm
Day of chaos must be spread over a few books...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 10 March, 2015, 01:28:51 pm
Oh...so they doubt even release stories split over two volumes in order? Very slightly disappointing as I wanted to read each story as it came out...oh well. I do hope that we get an index for this at the end...hell is be willing to pay for an detailed index volume that listed the stories/original Prog numbers for each volume...but I'm probably VERY much in the minority there  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 10 March, 2015, 01:30:55 pm
Hachette got back confirming Purgatory & Inferno.... I'll get my coat.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 10 March, 2015, 01:35:31 pm
I've never read Inferno, but actually quite enjoyed Purgatory...so I'm looking forwards to this  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 10 March, 2015, 01:48:10 pm
Probably shouldn't say this, since Inferno is utter pants, but I'd quite fancy that book for the art alone. There must be a fair amount of other stuff in there - maybe Devil You Know and Twilight's Last Gleaming? But please, please, p!ease, not the Judge Janus stuff.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richmond Clements on 10 March, 2015, 01:59:36 pm
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But please, please, p!ease, not the Judge Janus stuff.

Like, totally.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 10 March, 2015, 02:11:05 pm
Probably shouldn't say this, since Inferno is utter pants...

That just makes me want to read it more...still I'll be getting it when I get round to Case files 19...but do I want it twice...hope the book has some interesting contextual extras :)

But please, please, p!ease, not the Judge Janus stuff.

I did find the recent Janus reprints very hard going  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 10 March, 2015, 02:33:59 pm
That just makes me want to read it more...
I imagine the only way to get through it in one piece is to take it as an extremist parody of Dredd, in much the same way the Heavy Metal stuff was. Although Morrison for the most part lacks Wagner's ability to write black humour, and doesn't get Dredd or his world (or, possibly, just doesn't care). Inferno is lazy, illogical, dull and hackneyed. The art is quite good, but the writing is atrocious. It's not even curiosity-piquing—it's just plain bad.

I swear, if it hadn't been for John Smith, I'd have quit 2000 AD during that era, because even Dredd had become a joke. (Garth Ennis's run was also frequently poor, although he at least hit a few good notes.)

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hope the book has some interesting contextual extras
I'd certainly be interested in the justification for its inclusion, although I imagine it's "because it was written by Grant Morrison".
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: hippynumber1 on 10 March, 2015, 02:47:30 pm
Probably shouldn't say this, since Inferno is utter pants...

That just makes me want to read it more...still I'll be getting it when I get round to Case files 19...but do I want it twice...hope the book has some interesting contextual extras :)

But please, please, p!ease, not the Judge Janus stuff.

I did find the recent Janus reprints very hard going  :lol:

Beautiful art though...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 10 March, 2015, 06:59:33 pm
Was this an alternative cover for Shamballa? I prefer the one they went with even if there's no red in the design.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Molch-R on 10 March, 2015, 07:08:04 pm
Was this an alternative cover for Shamballa?

It was. The design was changed after the backing card for the previous issue had gone to print.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 10 March, 2015, 10:03:16 pm
If ever you want to sell prints of these beautiful graphic covers I won't try and stop you...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: rogue69 on 10 March, 2015, 10:46:44 pm
My local W H Smiths has stopped stocking this on their shelves, but has put copies of the Origins TPB on promotion next to 2000AD
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 12 March, 2015, 01:31:44 am
Probably shouldn't say this, since Inferno is utter pants...

That just makes me want to read it more...still I'll be getting it when I get round to Case files 19...but do I want it twice...hope the book has some interesting contextual extras :)

But please, please, p!ease, not the Judge Janus stuff.

I did find the recent Janus reprints very hard going  :lol:

Beautiful art though...

Seconded!

Same with Frankenstein Division.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 March, 2015, 11:34:55 am
My local W H Smiths has stopped stocking this on their shelves, but has put copies of the Origins TPB on promotion next to 2000AD
Hmm. Bit underhand, that.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 12 March, 2015, 12:09:40 pm
WHS. Nuff said (they aren't true believers let alone squaxx.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 12 March, 2015, 12:19:10 pm
Don't knock the only shop selling 2000ad in Reading! For those of us without comic shops they are a lifeline...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 March, 2015, 01:28:08 pm
The only shop? Blimey. Even in relatively tiny Fleet, at least two places stock the Prog. Then again, Reading's been without a comic shop for a good long while now, hasn't it?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 12 March, 2015, 05:30:00 pm
It did have the rudest comic shop ever - gone now! I'm glad WHSmiths stocks all the cd & marvel reprints plus 2000ad - without it my town would be more of a cultural desert.
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: James Stacey on 12 March, 2015, 06:04:51 pm
Ruder than the average Forbidden Planet :o
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Geoff on 12 March, 2015, 09:15:14 pm
When are my 4 & 5 going to arrive!?

And my wooden surfaces are getting ruined without those coasters!

I know the deliveries are staged for reasons of cost, but I wish Hachette would give it's subscribers some idea of which tranche they are in and therefore an idea of when to expect their deliveries.

I don't mind waiting, it's just the uncertainty I can't handle  :o
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 12 March, 2015, 09:34:20 pm
Surely 4 weeks from your last delivery?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 12 March, 2015, 09:35:48 pm
When are my 4 & 5 going to arrive!?

And my wooden surfaces are getting ruined without those coasters!

I know the deliveries are staged for reasons of cost, but I wish Hachette would give it's subscribers some idea of which tranche they are in and therefore an idea of when to expect their deliveries.

I don't mind waiting, it's just the uncertainty I can't handle  :o

You read the 12000-word small print Ts & Cs as you clicked [Place Order] against this subscription I assume?   ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Geoff on 12 March, 2015, 10:03:55 pm
Can't remember when the last delivery came, alas...I'll have to make a note next time it comes.

Pesky T&Cs, sure they've got everything covered!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 12 March, 2015, 11:08:58 pm
If you log into their website, you should be able to work it out. So far each of my deliveries has arrived 7 days after it has appeared on my account and the second batch appeared on my account exactly one calendar month after the first one did. The details on the site say that although the issues are in shops fortnightly, subscribers will only get one delivery per calendar month, so that you never get charged twice in the same month.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 13 March, 2015, 04:31:52 am
WHS suck & blow simultaneously.

I used to like them. They didn't do a big mean thing to me they just got rubbish at everything. Oh, apart from when they his 2000ad completely by putting it behind the 'Customer Service' desk that wasn't staffed at lunch time; idiots.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Magnetica on 13 March, 2015, 07:00:00 am
Well its the only shop near me that sells both 2000AD and the Megazine, so they are ok in my book. Virtually no newsagents I know get either other than the odd copy.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Geoff on 13 March, 2015, 07:55:38 am
Good thinking Anzati I'll check that out, cheers!
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 13 March, 2015, 10:52:15 am
Ruder than the average Forbidden Planet :o


of the forbidden planets I've been to the staff have been nice and helpful
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mike Carroll on 13 March, 2015, 02:22:31 pm
Ruder than the average Forbidden Planet :o

of the forbidden planets I've been to the staff have been nice and helpful

Same here - never had a single cause for complaint about Forbidden Planet stores! In every FP I've visited I've always found the staff to be very friendly, helpful and knowledgeable!

-- Mike
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 13 March, 2015, 03:05:19 pm
Ditto.

I've only experienced the London store through it's various incarnations, but it's always been fine.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 13 March, 2015, 05:08:42 pm
Mine has one decent guy and seven who hate comics.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 13 March, 2015, 05:17:12 pm
Mine has one decent guy and seven who hate comics.

You can't argue with stats (hm, not true...).

To paraphrase that line about holiday destinations, FP is decent enough to pop into but I'd hate to work there.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 13 March, 2015, 06:14:54 pm
Yeah, there's one fairly distracted relatively new guy in FP Dublin, but everyone else there has been lovely and helpful. It lacks the chatty intimacy of Sub City or Big Bang, but that's just a question of scale really.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Judge Olde on 14 March, 2015, 12:02:28 pm
My local W H Smiths has stopped stocking this on their shelves, but has put copies of the Origins TPB on promotion next to 2000AD
Hmm. Bit underhand, that.

I was talking to WHS staff, was told that this is standard for them. If you ask them to get it for you, they keep it in a folder for you. But they don't keep copies on the shelves.

Same for million part model series they do, build the Falcon etc.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 March, 2015, 01:11:37 pm
To clarify, I don't think it underhand that they are no longer selling the artwork; I think it underhand they are facing an Origins paperback next to 2000 AD, when they know full well people will potentially confuse it with the Origins artwork and purchase it in error.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 14 March, 2015, 02:18:52 pm
...If you ask them to get it for you, they keep it in a folder for you. But they don't keep copies on the shelves.

I asked them about that...however I think that the £30 deposit is a tad excessive :(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 14 March, 2015, 02:53:35 pm
To clarify, I don't think it underhand that they are no longer selling the artwork; I think it underhand they are facing an Origins paperback next to 2000 AD, when they know full well people will potentially confuse it with the Origins artwork and purchase it in error.

What artwork? I am so confused
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 14 March, 2015, 04:07:11 pm
I think... he means partwork.
Also... deposit?!
Also... 'promotion'. Maybe wrongly, I consider that as discounted. Origins trades still placed with the prog in my WHS are full price, else I may have picked it up (an essential trade for lapsed Earthlets like me yet to read it).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 14 March, 2015, 04:56:07 pm
Also... deposit

After buying the first two issues from WH Smiths I asked them if they could hold them for me as this isn't something that they're likely to keep on the shelf for too long. I didn't want to subscribe online as I was concerned about damage in the post (the same reason I don't subscribe to the Prog and Meg and still pick them up from WHS). I was told that I'd have to pay a deposit equal to the price of three issues, which would be returned upon completion of the collection or if I have one months notice before cancelling the order. I explained that it thought the deposit was too high and was told that they couldn't hold the issues for me then. Do I subscribed online, where is don't need to pay a deposit and get some cool free gifts, but risk the hassle of having to order replacements every month...

I like to support the highstreet where I can, but sillyness like that puts me off.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 14 March, 2015, 05:11:22 pm
Screw the high street if they are going to treat you like that.
Support Hachette and 2000 AD and bag yourself some nice free goodies.

And everything bar the badge has turned up in perfect condition. And the badge they replaced within a week.

No brainer in my opinion.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 14 March, 2015, 06:27:38 pm
I'm not sure it is just silliness - they have to order the numbers of books presumably weeks in advance, and if we don't pick them up they're stuck with the extra copies- weeks after their shelf date.  I agree £30 is a steep deposit, maybe £20 would be more reasonable, but I can certainly see the point of their getting cash up front - especially when the whole partwork model is based on subscriptions, which exist as a viable and cost-effective alternative.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 March, 2015, 07:41:28 pm
If you want to support comics, subscribe. The publishers get the most money that way. Alternatively, indie comic stores or decent chains. The high street can take a running jump for the most part.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 14 March, 2015, 07:46:35 pm
Subscribe, hachette replace damaged issues - seems like a no-brainer! Plus Brian Bolland showed his print art at LSCC
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 14 March, 2015, 10:18:44 pm
Oh I did subscribe weeks ago...WH Smiths had their chance. And yeah, so far my fears of damage have been for nought :) Expecting my second delivery any day now...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 15 March, 2015, 12:33:17 am
If you want to support comics, subscribe. The publishers get the most money that way. Alternatively, indie comic stores or decent chains. The high street can take a running jump for the most part.

The publishers get the most money PER CUSTOMER that way. But where do new customers come from if books are only available by subscription or from odd little shops that only existing customers visit? [Appreciates that he has said this same thing 100 times before and everyone is bored reading it]
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: maryanddavid on 15 March, 2015, 01:02:13 am
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But where do new customers come from if books are only available by subscription or from odd little shops that only existing customers visit?
This. Comics need to be on the newsagents shelves. I am not talking of The Mega Collection, but the weekly and the meg. Marvel and DC pulled from newsstands,  interesting piece here, and read the comments on Archie comics. http://www.comicsbeat.com/who-killed-the-newsstand-comics-market/ (http://www.comicsbeat.com/who-killed-the-newsstand-comics-market/)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 15 March, 2015, 08:01:42 am
Concur. I will continue to make the (enjoyable!) walk into WHS every Wednesday to pick up my progs/megs for as long as possible and feel sure they need this exposure to tempt new readers. This is how I got back on board back in 2012, FFS!

Some chin-stroking types might think social media and digital comics negate the High St here of course. Sheesh, it's complicated. But it's not all Twitter/FB/Thrill-Mail/Thrill-Casts, you know.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 15 March, 2015, 10:28:18 am
WHS always do this.  It's why I would never even consider having a regular order with them for anything.

If subbing isn't for you,  simply place an order at your nearest local newsagent.  I don't know why more people don't do this- it doesn't matter if they currently stock it or not,  any newsagent that carries UK magazines can get any UK magazine simply by ordering it.  If they say they can't,  they are lying and can't be arsed to keep your custom.  I've never been charged any kind of deposit for any magazine or comic in 40 years of using local newsagents.  Currently I have the prog,  the meg and the beano on order from mine and pick them up on Wednesdays.

SBT
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 15 March, 2015, 10:32:17 am
Sheesh, it's complicated. But it's not all Twitter/FB/Thrill-Mail/Thrill-Casts, you know.

WHAT?!

My world is in ruins…

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 15 March, 2015, 04:16:56 pm
The publishers get the most money PER CUSTOMER that way. But where do new customers come from if books are only available by subscription or from odd little shops that only existing customers visit? [Appreciates that he has said this same thing 100 times before and everyone is bored reading it]
Given that one mag I wrote for was essentially killed due to demands from Tesco and others have had similar issues, I don't know what the solution is. And while I get where you're coming from, in a straight fight for survival, niche publications need your money, and subbing is an obvious recommendation to make on a board probably read regularly by maybe one per cent of 2000 AD's readership.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 15 March, 2015, 06:31:00 pm
Edited to say: I'm talking out of my nethers. Please ignore.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin Zeal on 15 March, 2015, 10:02:33 pm
I don't subscribe to prog/meg/hachette for various reasons that include my monthly finances and preference for buying the copy myself. I tried to get the prog ordered to the newsagents next to my office recently. For some reason that didn't make sense then and doesn't now they weren't able to do it.

It does make me nostalgic for the days when I got into comics as a kid. I had to visit the shop every day to get the paper for my parents. As a reward I was allowed to choose a comic for myself. Back then there was a huge range of titles to choose from and this was great. Where do today's kids get that same amount of exposure?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ZenArcade on 15 March, 2015, 10:05:35 pm
Their bedroom and the net alas. Z
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 March, 2015, 10:23:07 am
Lew Stringer's written about this a lot, as have others. The lack of titles beyond ones aimed at kids and adults is quite curious, to the point the medium itself is relatively unknown to some. I recall reading someone who mentioned Jason Kingsley talking to a teen about comics, and the lad saying that the concept seemed cool, but it had apparently passed him by. Crazy when I think of how I was surrounded by piles of the things as a kid, despite also growing up an in age of videogaming (albeit of the 8-bit variety; no internet then, of course).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 16 March, 2015, 10:47:57 am
Lew Stringer's written about this a lot, as have others. The lack of titles beyond ones aimed at kids and adults is quite curious, to the point the medium itself is relatively unknown to some.

I keep banging on about this… comics for the ten-and-under market are remarkably healthy and I don't believe that kids get to eleven and simply won't read comics. The fact is, there are no comics for them to read and so they get out of the habit, and so, for them, comics remain associated with childhood/childish reading matter.

Comics targeting the 11-16 bracket would provide the essential bridge to the 'mature' market, and is the reason why so many of us involved in STRIP wanted the magazine to succeed in spite of the combination of incompetence and dodginess of its Bosnian publisher.

I'm still convinced that something pitched between classic-era 2000AD and Warrior on the UK high street could sell enough copies to be viable.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 16 March, 2015, 11:20:47 am
I imagine that the problem of this 'bridge' period is that is also the age where less restricted internet access becomes a reality. I supervise my 8 year-old's internet use obsessively, but with his interest in classic games on the Nintendo store and homemade Lego movies even now I'm aware that sometimes I forget that I've left his 3DS WiFi unlocked. The other week I heard him accidentally chant the password as I typed it in, presumably learned by glimpses over my shoulder.  By the time he's in secondary school I've little doubt he'll be able to circumvent any restriction I impose (we've already had 'all my friends have phones', a lie that becomes more plausible daily).

Which is as it should be, I suppose, but where do comics have a hope of fitting when faced with something even more compelling than Horace Goes Skiing?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 March, 2015, 11:35:04 am
Maybe I'm kidding myself and will discover otherwise with mini-G, but I'm unconvinced the internet or modern games are the problem when it comes to comics. Kids still read. Kids love books. Kids love good comics. I imagine part of the issue is the death-spiral of print continually pushing up prices for the same amount of content, making comics look comparatively poor value, combined with, as Jim noted, the lack of content geared towards the pre-adult audience. (By comparison, teen literature is a big thing of late, and there's increasing choice there.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richmond Clements on 16 March, 2015, 12:06:18 pm
Maybe I'm kidding myself and will discover otherwise with mini-G, but I'm unconvinced the internet or modern games are the problem when it comes to comics. Kids still read. Kids love books. Kids love good comics. I imagine part of the issue is the death-spiral of print continually pushing up prices for the same amount of content, making comics look comparatively poor value, combined with, as Jim noted, the lack of content geared towards the pre-adult audience. (By comparison, teen literature is a big thing of late, and there's increasing choice there.)

As I heard Pat Mills point out once - Japanese and French children have the internet and games consoles, too, and they read a sneck-load of comics.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 16 March, 2015, 12:44:48 pm
These are all very good points. I still can't help but compare my bringing that week's 2000AD on camping holidays and reading it again and again and again to the point that I can date most childhood holidays by reference to Barney, with my son's experience of a mountain of games and videos on his DS so that as long as he stays out of the leaks and gets first dibs on the car charger he could be anywhere. The quantity and quality of electronic entertainment available has to act to reduce the importance of comics in kids' lives.

That said [segue], I hope to use the Mega Collection to fight the tide.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin YNWA on 16 March, 2015, 01:43:40 pm
As I heard Pat Mills point out once - Japanese and French children have the internet and games consoles, too, and they read a sneck-load of comics.

Completely this. I too have long supported the idea that a comic aimed at a younger age akin to 2000ad between say Prog 250 and 600 (pulled out my ass and completely open to debate) but essentially all ages would go down a treat.

I guess the biggest problem and difference between that and the Japanese and French market is they have a shed load of choice. There's comics touching all genera and for all interests. Oh that and comics are read far more commonly by adults and so there is no stigma, though I do think that's diminishing here.

One great 'bridging' comic (to borrow Jim's term will not get us there, but it would certainly be a start.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 March, 2015, 02:33:37 pm
I think the stigma still exists, but the audience just happens to be growing a little as well. There's a real disconnect in general, with people who'll happily flock towards the latest Marvel blockbuster, but look at you funny if you say you read comics.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 16 March, 2015, 02:44:28 pm
I think the stigma still exists, but the audience just happens to be growing a little as well. There's a real disconnect in general, with people who'll happily flock towards the latest Marvel blockbuster, but look at you funny if you say you read comics.

Ha!  Funny you should say that - I was in the pool a few months back, and a guy covered in Marvel tats approached me to comment on mine (I have a large Monkey King on my back).  I politely enthused about his Spidey and Thor etc, and commented if I were to get any more tats my next would probably be a Judge Dredd one.  He actually snorted in derision!  Arsewipe. 

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin YNWA on 16 March, 2015, 03:34:45 pm
I think the stigma still exists, but the audience just happens to be growing a little as well. There's a real disconnect in general, with people who'll happily flock towards the latest Marvel blockbuster, but look at you funny if you say you read comics.

Maybe I'm being overly optimistic? I certainly don't get the same looks I used to when I wipe mine out in public. Though the fact I'm a lot more confident than I used to be may mean I don't seem them, or worry about them the way the me in my teens and early 20s would have.

I see more people reading comics publicly and certainly when you look around the College I work at the students seem by and large happy to engage - if they are interested with no stigma.

I reckon real progress has been made?

But I should stop dragging this off topic!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Leigh S on 16 March, 2015, 04:08:44 pm

Japan and France have a wider culture of everyone, particularly adults, reading comics, wich I think plays into that - if you see adults reading them, and there is that level of infiltration to the general culture, then of course the kids of all ages will read and find something to read.

As I heard Pat Mills point out once - Japanese and French children have the internet and games consoles, too, and they read a sneck-load of comics.

Completely this. I too have long supported the idea that a comic aimed at a younger age akin to 2000ad between say Prog 250 and 600 (pulled out my ass and completely open to debate) but essentially all ages would go down a treat.

I guess the biggest problem and difference between that and the Japanese and French market is they have a shed load of choice. There's comics touching all genera and for all interests. Oh that and comics are read far more commonly by adults and so there is no stigma, though I do think that's diminishing here.

One great 'bridging' comic (to borrow Jim's term will not get us there, but it would certainly be a start.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 16 March, 2015, 04:12:01 pm
I was in the pool a few months back, and a guy covered in Marvel tats approached me to comment on mine (I have a large Monkey King on my back).  I politely enthused about his Spidey and Thor etc, and commented if I were to get any more tats my next would probably be a Judge Dredd one.  He actually snorted in derision!  Arsewipe.

It starts well, but you're going to have to work on that ending before you pitch it to the porn studios.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 16 March, 2015, 07:46:09 pm
It does make me nostalgic for the days when I got into comics as a kid. I had to visit the shop every day to get the paper for my parents. As a reward I was allowed to choose a comic for myself. Back then there was a huge range of titles to choose from and this was great. Where do today's kids get that same amount of exposure?

I know what you mean.  I remember being able to traipse round the different newsagents in Gloucester who all seemed to stock different comics from different publishers.  Was complete pot luck as to what you would find at times but all seemed to have a shelve full of semi current Marvel / DC / tooth / best of tooth.  First time I went to Nostalgia and Comics in Birmingham I almost had a breakdown! (this was back in the days before FP took it over mind).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Satanist on 17 March, 2015, 06:03:59 pm
I was in the pool a few months back, and a guy covered in Marvel tats approached me to comment on mine (I have a large Monkey King on my back).  I politely enthused about his Spidey and Thor etc, and commented if I were to get any more tats my next would probably be a Judge Dredd one.  He actually snorted in derision!  Arsewipe.

It starts well, but you're going to have to work on that ending before you pitch it to the porn studios.

...then his towel fell off revealing his Punisher  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 17 March, 2015, 06:06:44 pm
Or even his Man-Thing?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 17 March, 2015, 06:22:52 pm
Or even his Man-Thing?

Ain't no Man-Thing like a Giant-Sized Man-Thing…

(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070411195857/marveldatabase/images/2/22/Giant-Size_Man-Thing_Vol_1_3.jpg)

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 17 March, 2015, 06:51:04 pm
I have a giant sized Man Thing.

And it were green.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 17 March, 2015, 07:23:09 pm
Aaadh! Man-thing - always in the 25p boxes with my favourite title "Night Thrasher". Mind you you get funny looks reading "iron fist"
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 17 March, 2015, 09:06:51 pm
I regret not subbing to this. Think you can get a sub and back issues?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 17 March, 2015, 09:21:53 pm
They were signing people up at the weekend at the London con. Best to start with issue 1 - you'll just be a bit behind as they only post out 2 issues once s month. I was very impressed with the free badge.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 17 March, 2015, 10:44:04 pm
Agreed. Just order the past books if you need the full run.
I've ordered one direct already, it arrived promptly, with no documentation, and as if it had been knocked about a bit. All of which I expected as a reader of this thread  :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: iutley on 18 March, 2015, 09:53:13 am
Quick question for Molch-R if he's reading - I've just noticed that the original test area editions didn't just have a different spine image but different volume numbers as well. I was just wondering how the numbering was decided? Is it Rebellion who decide which order the books will ultimately go in or is it Hachette? Just curious really...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Molch-R on 18 March, 2015, 10:12:14 am
Quick question for Molch-R if he's reading - I've just noticed that the original test area editions didn't just have a different spine image but different volume numbers as well. I was just wondering how the numbering was decided? Is it Rebellion who decide which order the books will ultimately go in or is it Hachette? Just curious really...

Matt decided on the order, but that list was tinkered with since the tests were arranged so that's why they're different.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 18 March, 2015, 04:38:01 pm
Couldn't find book 5 today.  :(
Will try again tomorrow..
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 18 March, 2015, 05:42:42 pm
That's terrible Spikes because I got it and it's absolutely stunning :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 18 March, 2015, 10:45:04 pm
Couldn't find book 5 today.  :(
Will try again tomorrow..


Just subscribe
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: iutley on 19 March, 2015, 09:57:38 am
Matt decided on the order, but that list was tinkered with since the tests were arranged so that's why they're different.

Cool, thanks for that. Interesting to see how these things work
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 19 March, 2015, 10:50:16 am
Couldn't find book 5 today.  :(
Will try again tomorrow..


Just subscribe

I would but i'm not keen on recieving damaged books.
No luck today either. One last port of call to go to later on, so fingers crossed...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 19 March, 2015, 11:30:12 am
Couldn't find book 5 today.  :(
Will try again tomorrow..


Just subscribe



I would but i'm not keen on recieving damaged books.
No luck today either. One last port of call to go to later on, so fingers crossed...


They replace any damaged ones
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 19 March, 2015, 11:44:28 am
That's ok then.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 19 March, 2015, 12:10:20 pm
The packaging thing is really odd. The books come in card sleeves and tend to get banged about. My Apocalypse War was beyond what I considered acceptable. The replacement arrived really quickly, wrapped in bubble wrap. Bizarre they don't do that for all of them. Presumably the number of replacements costs less than upgrading the packaging for everyone.

(Mind you, still no 4+5 here. Sigh.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 19 March, 2015, 12:18:48 pm
All 5 of mine have arrived in perfect condition.
The badge was damaged but I got a replacement, sent with another mug in the mug box, pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Satanist on 19 March, 2015, 01:36:01 pm
None in FP today but found it in a newsies. Lookin forward to this one as its all new to me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 19 March, 2015, 02:03:41 pm
yeah - the badge in the packaging wrecked my apoc and mechanismo - origins had a small ding in it but i didn't bother complaining. And America Shamblla was perfect.

Not sure if anyone has seen this yet - I just spotted it https://forbiddenplanet.com/136989-2000ad-judge-dredd-graphic-novel-collection-volume-6-mandroid/
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: J.Smith on 19 March, 2015, 02:22:57 pm
Not sure if anyone has seen this yet - I just spotted it https://forbiddenplanet.com/136989-2000ad-judge-dredd-graphic-novel-collection-volume-6-mandroid/

Someone pointed out that FP had that listed upcoming volumes previously, yeah. Might've been me actually, since I do know that I thought Mandroid's cover, taken from the first story, was the best so far. Gotta love Kev Walker's pissed off Dredd.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Judge Nutmeg on 19 March, 2015, 09:04:04 pm
the only downside with white covers is my mucky paw marks  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 21 March, 2015, 11:36:06 am
Issues 5 and 6 turned up today (with the free coasters), can't wait to read these and I've not read either Snmballa or Mandroid before and I do love both Arthur Ranson's and Carl Critchlow's work :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 21 March, 2015, 11:56:22 am
My replacement copy of Shamballa came today - I can't really fault Hachette when they replace scratched books so easily. Any idea what's after Mandroid?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 21 March, 2015, 01:24:37 pm
It looks like my account's now finally rumbled back into action again, with 4+5 and the coasters today prepped for shipping. It is a bit weird people are now digging into Mandroid though, when plenty of people haven't got issue 4. One issue behind, sure, but three? Ah well.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 21 March, 2015, 01:42:53 pm
Yeah, seems that Hachette got into some sort of mess with the initial orders that they haven't quite gotten out of. They seem to have gotten a month behind with those who subscribed from issues 1 or 2. I guess that's an artefact of the monthly delivery, but fortnightly release...

Is 4 and 5 your third delivery? 5 and 6 was my second delivery and I'm expecting my third delivery of issues 7 and 8 to appear on my account around the 7th April.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 21 March, 2015, 03:33:58 pm
Yep. I ordered from #1. My dates so far:

Jan 20: Subscribed from issue one
Jan 27: Issue 1 dispatch
Feb 14: Issue 2+3 dispatch (2.5 weeks)
Mar 21: Issue 4+5 dispatch (5 weeks)

On the assumption this is a fortnightly collection, it's odd to see 2.5-week gaps per book here. If the sub doesn't rebalance, there'd be no books at all in June. (I assume the next dispatch will be closer to April 18.)

I guess given the manner in which these are mailed in blocks combined with Hachette's "never charge anyone twice in one month" mantra, the people who subbed from issue one AND late in the month may end up with this odd lateness.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 23 March, 2015, 04:22:10 pm
And I finally tracked down a copy of book 5. I knew I would,  ;)
But to save any future hassle, I've set up a standing order with my local newsagent.

As with the previous four books, this is one nice looking collection.

I've got the stories already, but I honestly cant remember the last time I read them, so looking forward to re-visiting these.

(Just a slight shame the cover doesn't contain a flash of red, like the others...)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 23 March, 2015, 09:06:16 pm
...but the back cover is stunning!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Super Mario on 24 March, 2015, 09:26:43 am
I'm stupid, can someone explain the endings to Shamballa and Satan for me?!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 24 March, 2015, 10:59:27 am
Anderson lives.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 24 March, 2015, 11:11:17 am
As I understand it, the Rand Corporation, in conjunction with the Saucer People, and under the supervision of the Reverse Vampires, turn out to be no worse than Justice Dept itself. Or am I thinking of another Anderson story?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 24 March, 2015, 04:33:58 pm
I'm stupid, can someone explain the endings to Shamballa and Satan for me?!

The ending is that Anderson saves the world for destruction and no one notices as she is just that crazy PSI.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mardroid on 24 March, 2015, 10:12:22 pm
I'm stupid, can someone explain the endings to Shamballa and Satan for me?!


The way I understand it, when she read his mind earlier she found that he actually felt guilty for his deeds although I suspect he suppressed it. The idea being that no living sentient being could do that amount of evil and not get a pang of conscience. I think she put a psychic suggestion in his rocky head that expanded that guilt.

Not too sure why that would physically destroy him. Possibly it's because evil had become so central to his being over millions of years to challenge it completely undid him. The devil* the very progenitor of evil feeling guilty? He just couldn't take it.

The resolution smacked a bit of something from a new Doctor Who tale, and
I'm not sure of it but I quite liked the story. And the art was amazing....

*At least he believes he is the devil.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Proudhuff on 25 March, 2015, 11:57:10 am
Not spotted the latest in any Edinbra shops...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 25 March, 2015, 02:24:23 pm
Anyone think that this series is likely to be extended similar to how the Marvel one has?

I've just been looking at the numbering for the Marvel series and noticed that they extended the spine image and began numbering issues with 'Classic XXXIV' etc. I don't collect the Marvel series, but was the spine image extended to the right or left?

The other day someone on the Mega Collection Facebook page pointed out that the spine image that we have been shown comes to a definitive end on the right (Vol. 80), but on the left (Vol. 1) the image is cut off in a similar way to the volumes between. This struck me as a little odd, but I'd assumed that if the series was to be extended there would be a new spine image...guess I was wrong and now I'm curious.

I'm sure it'll be a very long time before we have any indication of plans like this, but I wondered what everyone else's thoughts on this were. What do you think it will be (other classic 2000AD characters is my guess)? Do you think that this is a good idea or bad (I like the idea of a parallel series, but not sure I like being forced into it in the same way that the Marvel lot have)?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 25 March, 2015, 02:32:38 pm
I would argue that you are not forced into it as long as you have free will
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 25 March, 2015, 02:38:07 pm
OK we'll call it 'given an ultimatum' then; collect this new extension for an extra £600 or fail to complete the collection you signed up for and have already spent over £500 on :P
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 25 March, 2015, 02:46:33 pm
I would argue that you are not forced into it as long as you have free will

Truly thou art a loving god.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: J.Smith on 25 March, 2015, 03:22:15 pm
It's too early to tell if that'll be the case surely, because we don't know how much of Dredd's world this will manage to cover in its eighty volumes.

A shorter collection of other 2000AD strips is a possibility if this keeps up I guess, sure, but wouldn't that have to be completely separate? Unlike the Marvel series, which isn't focused on a particular character or era as far as I can tell, they couldn't very well expand this collection out of the blue with non-Dredd-world material when it's clearly called The Judge Dredd Mega Collection, you know? Maybe they could wiggle around that by explaining that this theoretical book of 2000AD material that suddenly lands on our doorsteps is a free starter in their new line if we were interested but the answer to that, if you're not interested, is to return it and make it clear you only want the Dredd series.

So I'll just second what Skullmo said: it's completely up to you if you want to continue or not should such a thing happen. Since this launched I've only heard good things about Hachette's customer service, so I can't see them screwing people around by forcing a second collection upon them like an old thread about the Marvel expansion I read once seemed to imply.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 25 March, 2015, 05:09:32 pm
I wonder does the unfinished left hand side of the spine image allow for a Vol 0 Index?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 25 March, 2015, 05:11:49 pm
I wonder does the unfinished left hand side of the spine image allow for a Vol 0 Index?

Now that's something that I'd be VERY happy about...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 25 March, 2015, 06:18:48 pm
I wonder does the unfinished left hand side of the spine image allow for a Vol 0 Index?

Now that's something that I'd be VERY happy about...

Of course this assumes that they only use integers.  If we include the set of complex numbers as well then we could have images extending above and below the current ones.  I would have thought that they would avoid rational and irrational numbers on the ground that it would be tricky to fit images in between those that we already have.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Albion on 25 March, 2015, 08:49:32 pm
I've just been looking at the numbering for the Marvel series and noticed that they extended the spine image and began numbering issues with 'Classic XXXIV' etc. I don't collect the Marvel series, but was the spine image extended to the right or left?

It was extended to the right.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 26 March, 2015, 12:31:48 pm
The spine probably does not finish in case they come to the last book and the spine doesn't fit they can just tag a bit on
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 26 March, 2015, 03:18:28 pm
The JD collection image appears to have an end at vol. 80, so the extra to fit doesn't work there. Its to the left of vo. 1 that it appears to be cut off.

Looks like the Marvel collection was extended to the right and left after the series was extended from 60 sequentially numbered volumes to 120. 20 volumes to the right for 80 volumes and 40 volumes to the left using roman numerals for the classics. After the extension the marvel spine image appears to have two definite ends.

The Dredd collection was extended from 60 volumes to 80 after the trial and that side does seem to have a definite end on the right, but the left is still cut off. If the series continues to be popular I do think that this indicates where there are plans to extend the series, possibly to 120 volumes like the Marvel one. I'm just very curious as to what this extension would include :)

I’ve added a little comparison picture of the released spine images below :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 26 March, 2015, 03:29:56 pm
More importantly is anyone missing? Is max there?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Albion on 26 March, 2015, 04:24:18 pm
Oops. I was wrong about the Marvel collection then. Knew I should have checked the leaflet they sent when the collection was expanded. Doh!  :-[
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 26 March, 2015, 08:54:35 pm
The silly thing is...the more I think about it, the more excited I am about the possibility of extension...can't really afford it as it is...but I'm sure I'd enjoy an extra 40 volumes :)

I haven't bithered trying to identify everyone in the image yet...checking who is missing is a good idea :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 27 March, 2015, 11:03:02 am
Well, my 4+5 just squeaked in at the end of March. The books in themselves look good, but again one of them is damaged, due to Hachette deciding to send them (and some coasters I'd entirely forgotten about) in a box that was far too big. I know Hachette will replace my dinged Shamballa, but it seems so wasteful.

Pic and gripe here (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153210201873126&set=o.1517847991806337&type=1&theater) if anyone wants to see the absurd box.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 27 March, 2015, 11:06:50 am
Hopefully once the free gifts have stopped the books will have less wiggle room in smaller boxes.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 27 March, 2015, 12:01:55 pm
The crazy thing is, my last replacement arrived in perfect condition, because it had a bit of bubble wrap around it. Ah well.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 27 March, 2015, 03:22:35 pm
Well, my 4+5 just squeaked in at the end of March. The books in themselves look good, but again one of them is damaged, due to Hachette deciding to send them (and some coasters I'd entirely forgotten about) in a box that was far too big. I know Hachette will replace my dinged Shamballa, but it seems so wasteful.

Pic and gripe here (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153210201873126&set=o.1517847991806337&type=1&theater) if anyone wants to see the absurd box.

My books were sent in the same type of box and thankfully arrived with no damage at all.

Perhaps the postie plays football with yours.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 27 March, 2015, 03:59:59 pm
It's just luck of the draw, but that's the problem with ineffective packaging. Mind you, last time the damage wasn't the postie's fault, but Hachette's for shoving a badge into a box that wasn't big enough for it and the two books, hence Apocalypse War getting a gouge down its back.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 27 March, 2015, 04:15:10 pm
And this is exactly why I didn't sign up.
I know peeps have had theirs delivered OK, but a good few haven't. Maybe the packaging will improve, as others have speculated, once the free gifts are out of the equation..

But for me, I've now set-up a standing order from the local newsagent (who stock the prog as well), so two birds with one stone.
Sorted.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 27 March, 2015, 04:26:22 pm
I'm increasingly tempted to do the same, although we lack any indies in town now, and so I don't know how amenable the chains would be to doing something like this.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 27 March, 2015, 04:50:34 pm
Not a subscriber, but ordered Origins direct from Hachette. Fairly snug packaging, but no bubble-wrap for me and bumps to the cover. Wouldn't buy a book off the shelf in that condition. If I was buying everything I'd talk to my newsagent (and not the self-service scanning abomination that W H Smith have now installed :) ). Damaged goods shouldn't be luck of the draw... (helpfully sending replacements is not the point).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: mckee74 on 27 March, 2015, 11:22:09 pm
Yep, very silly packaging. A few scratches but I think I'll live with it.

Has to be said, the cover art on Issue Five is just stunning.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin Zeal on 28 March, 2015, 01:48:17 am
I'm increasingly tempted to do the same, although we lack any indies in town now, and so I don't know how amenable the chains would be to doing something like this.

I guess newsagents are different to comic shops in this respect because my local comic can't order this for me. The owner says he can order anything else I want apart from this. He thinks it's down to wh smith having the exclusive rights to sell it but he isn't sure if that's why. The wh smith I was buying it in no longer stocks copies so what am I meant to do apart from make a trip to forbidden planet to buy it?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 28 March, 2015, 01:56:39 am
You'll just have to move Colin.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 28 March, 2015, 07:36:43 am
My local newsie has one on order for someone. I seriously hope it's not the same guy who had a standing order for the Marvel Figurine Collection and who then didn't pick them up for months, meaning every time I went to buy milk I had to explain that no,  it's not me and yes,  I've already had mine.  Sigh.

SBT 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 28 March, 2015, 11:50:45 am
My local newsie has one on order for someone. I seriously hope it's not the same guy who had a standing order for the Marvel Figurine Collection and who then didn't pick them up for months, meaning every time I went to buy milk I had to explain that no,  it's not me and yes,  I've already had mine.  Sigh.

SBT

We could have a whip round and get you a Tshirt with that printed up, save some time.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Judge Nutmeg on 28 March, 2015, 01:55:59 pm
Any idea what stories the heavy mob will include?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 28 March, 2015, 08:49:36 pm
He thinks it's down to wh smith having the exclusive rights to sell it but he isn't sure if that's why.
Unlikely, given that I got issue one from a Martin's.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin Zeal on 30 March, 2015, 01:08:04 am
He thinks it's down to wh smith having the exclusive rights to sell it but he isn't sure if that's why.
Unlikely, given that I got issue one from a Martin's.

Well whatever the reason, my local comic shop can't order it for me. It's a bloody nuisance but fortunately I can go to fp to get it. Most people won't have that option.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 30 March, 2015, 07:43:24 am
That problem is inherent in the partwork format - direct subscription is the intention. If there was a conventional market for fortnightly 200 page hardbacks on the newsagent's shelves or LCS, I'm sure Rebellion would have jumped at it before now (26 HB GNs a year isn't exactly normal output). The pricepoint and initial investment costs must all be based on long-running subs direct from Hachette. It's a pain, but I suspect difficulties with alternative distribution are inevitable.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 30 March, 2015, 09:19:16 am
Given that WHSmith take, what, about half the cover price, it's not difficult to see how these companies want to heavily skew towards direct sales via subscription. (This also probably accounts for the packaging being so simple. For everyone who moans about a dinged book, dozens more just won't care. It's probably cheaper to replace a handful of books every month than 'upgrade' everything.)

Still, it's a pity that the series will within the next month or two probably fade from view in the majority of outlets, its survival then entirely reliant on the subs pool. Here's hoping it's big enough for the series to get through all 60 books.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 30 March, 2015, 02:57:38 pm
I see over on their facebook page it states that the Cursed Earth is going to be book 8.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 30 March, 2015, 02:59:42 pm
Always amazed to see double volumes of the marvel partworks in WHSmith Paddington - I've picked up a few because of this. Hope Dredd can stay in stores
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 30 March, 2015, 04:14:28 pm
I see over on their facebook page it states that the Cursed Earth is going to be book 8.

It will contain the banned episodes!




Psyche!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 30 March, 2015, 04:18:35 pm
Any idea what stories the heavy mob will include?

According to the blog post it'll be:

Holocaust 12 (54 pages)
Brit-Cit Brute (39 pages)
Wynter (9 pages)
Father Earth (24 pages)
Debris (30 pages)
Warzone (48 pages)

I'm guessing that's everything as it comes to 204 pages :)

I see over on their facebook page it states that the Cursed Earth is going to be book 8.

It will contain the banned episodes!




Psyche!

...and the colour pages...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 30 March, 2015, 04:28:03 pm
No need to buy The Cursed Earth for a fourth time (or the Dredd annual reprint backup), but...

more interested in The Heavy Mob. Not familiar with these (from memory), apart from Father Earth.
Is it worth picking this up?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 30 March, 2015, 04:48:21 pm
Volume 8 - Fodder's fate.

Running Debris without Payback is an odd choice  - to my mind those two extra episodes give that story its proper weight, not to mention more of the Corps. Better use of paper than Wynter too (despite the nice art). Be interesting to read Warzone again, a useful companion piece to Mandroid.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 30 March, 2015, 04:57:17 pm
I am curious now how many pages would calhab justice have in full? Enough for one of these?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 30 March, 2015, 05:06:12 pm
Surely Calhab justice would have gone well with Brit Cit Brute!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Judge Nutmeg on 30 March, 2015, 08:02:50 pm
Any idea what stories the heavy mob will include?

According to the blog post it'll be:

Holocaust 12 (54 pages)
Brit-Cit Brute (39 pages)
Wynter (9 pages)
Father Earth (24 pages)
Debris (30 pages)
Warzone (48 pages)

I'm guessing that's everything as it comes to 204 pages :)

I see over on their facebook page it states that the Cursed Earth is going to be book 8.

It will contain the banned episodes!




Psyche!

...and the colour pages...


cheers
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 March, 2015, 08:07:53 pm
I see over on their facebook page it states that the Cursed Earth is going to be book 8.

It will contain the banned episodes!


"We're afraid that Burger Wars & Soul Food won't be reprinted in this collection."


https://www.facebook.com/judgedreddcollection
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 30 March, 2015, 08:23:35 pm
Hence, I imagine, the "Psyche!" addition to that post…
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 31 March, 2015, 01:21:09 am
There will also be no colour pages!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 31 March, 2015, 09:10:26 pm
Has anyone received issues 6 & 7? No deliveries scheduled for me yet!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 01 April, 2015, 08:19:50 am
Nope, not yet. Mine was scheduled so that it coincides with the second of every issue, if that makes sense.
So Mandroid came out this week so I'm expecting a delivery to be scheduled for the start of next week meaning I'll receive 6 & 7 as issue 7 hits the shops.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 01 April, 2015, 08:23:40 am
My deliveries so far have shown up on the hachette website on the last day of each month and then turned up about a week later, but looking just now there's no entry for issues 6 and 7 on there yet.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 01 April, 2015, 12:49:29 pm
No mega collection today.has anyone managed to pick one up or have Hachette abandoned high st. Already.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 01 April, 2015, 01:14:21 pm
I saw several copies of Mandroid in the Huntingdon WH Smiths when I picked up the Prog this morning.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 01 April, 2015, 01:47:38 pm
Good grief, my replacement arrived quickly this time. Sent my address via Facebook yesterday, and it showed up this morning. Again, the packaging was better than the original delivery's. Anyway, I think I'll stop griping about the boxes now, given how good Hachette is about replacing books.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 01 April, 2015, 07:01:12 pm
Good to see Mandroid in Paddington WHSmiths - I had to fight not to buy it and wait for my subscription. Hope they continue living in the wild
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 01 April, 2015, 08:53:32 pm
Arrived home to my copies of Mandroid and the Heavies tonight - both gorgeous books and really well packed this time! :D :D :D

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 01 April, 2015, 09:01:08 pm
Skillmo - out of interest when does your Hachette account say yours were posted? Did you get the bookends? Cheers!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 01 April, 2015, 09:02:35 pm
Apologies for renaming you... I've got fat fingers
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 01 April, 2015, 09:10:45 pm
A tidbit from Facebook:

"You're looking for the story Emerald Isle, published in Progs 727-732, or you can find it in Judge Dredd Case Files 15, or wait for Vol 56 of the Mega Collection and it will be featured there too!"
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 01 April, 2015, 09:23:55 pm
Fifty-six: Shifty Micks.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 02 April, 2015, 02:30:39 am
Arrived home to my copies of Mandroid and the Heavies tonight - both gorgeous books and really well packed this time! :D :D :D


Mwa ha ha April Fools!

Nothing really came  :'(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 02 April, 2015, 08:28:31 am
I thought Emerald Isle material being reprinted was the April Fool! You got me Skullmo! Really enjoyed the podcast - great to hear Kev Walker
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 April, 2015, 06:07:47 pm
Popped into Smiths yesterday and noticed that there were only 5 copies of the latest issue in the area where they've been stacked.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 02 April, 2015, 08:10:23 pm
Cracked and bought Mandroid in WHSmiths - I'll have to cancel my subscription. Book looks great & has s great intro & piece on vigilantes. Great art, cover & end papers!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Super Mario on 03 April, 2015, 12:08:32 pm
I've never read Mandroid before, it's well depressing.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 03 April, 2015, 02:10:30 pm
The first Mandroid is really impressive - very much in the tone of the movie. Love it
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 04 April, 2015, 01:48:14 pm
Wow, haven't read Mandroid since it ran, it really is a breathtakingly bleak story, with some marvellous reflections from a Dredd who stuffs this one up big time. In light of recent stories, it's interesting to see the comment about the role/lack of Block Judges too.

Walker's art here is truly incredible, and I found the transition through Coleby to Critchlow rather neatly done, in large part due to some skilful colouring.  Stylistically i don't think Carl was the right choice for the final parts (he hadn't quite reached his current heights or maybe there's just a bit too much Lobster Random in there, I don't know), but there's no denying the quality of the work. 

Bad Mother is a one-note strip that I could do without reading again, even though it's Cam, and I haven't got round to Escape from Atlantis yet - there's really a hell of a lot in these things for your groat! 

Molcher's article on vigilantes in Dredd is a substantial piece and generally excellent - lots of stuff I'd forgotten or missed, and well illustrated.  Well worth its pages.

And as ever the cover and production are beautiful.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Judge Nutmeg on 04 April, 2015, 06:25:25 pm
Mandroid is a great story, was'nt too keen on the sequel think it would have been better with slaughterhouse back as a lone vigilante although it has a great closing line about the changing nature of Dredd.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Magnetica on 06 April, 2015, 07:37:37 pm
Do we know what's up next after Mandroid?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 06 April, 2015, 07:43:18 pm
According to Hachette, The Heavy Mob, a compilation of 'special forces' stories, and The Cursed Earth.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 06 April, 2015, 09:39:33 pm
As revealed a couple of pages back. Book 7:

Holocaust 12 (54 pages)
Brit-Cit Brute (39 pages)
Wynter (9 pages)
Father Earth (24 pages)
Debris (30 pages)
Warzone (48 pages)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 06 April, 2015, 10:42:02 pm
Never read ANY of the stories in Mandroid before and I must admit to really enjoying it, in a depressing way.  You really feel for Slaughterhouse in a lot of this book because he really is a victim of circumstamces.  q
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mardroid on 07 April, 2015, 06:16:08 pm
I've read the second Mandroid story,  but the first it's before my time. I'm rather looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 07 April, 2015, 06:25:08 pm
I loved Bad Mother. Great Cam Kennedy art and a premise which could have been throwaway but was used to great effect. Amazing to see a classic artist still providing the thrills. Really impressed with the choice of stories so far & the mix of classic & less familiar material. I've cancelled my subscription just because I can't wait to get these books from WHSmiths.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 07 April, 2015, 10:58:44 pm
I see we now have our first consecutively numbered books, and the first glimpse of spines matching up, with Mechanismo (book 24), and Mandroid (book 25).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 08 April, 2015, 08:30:11 am
Volumes 6 & 7 have now been sent to me today.
Hopefully I'll get them within the week and they should contain the bookends.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 08 April, 2015, 10:11:38 am
Definitely getting the bookends with 6 & 7?  I've been told they're going out with 8 & 9 and they don't show up on my account on hachette's site.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 08 April, 2015, 11:46:16 am
Same here, registering as posted.  Usually takes best part of week but with luck will be able to enjoy over the weekend before getting back into the long slog.  The bookends are not listed as dispatched for me either.  Not that I'm overly worried on that score.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 08 April, 2015, 11:57:53 am
Curiously, my account has two "judge dredd the mega collectio" listed for April 8—a mere 2.5 weeks after the last dispatch date (vs. five after the one before that). Woo and, indeed, hoo!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 08 April, 2015, 04:22:12 pm
Definitely getting the bookends with 6 & 7?  I've been told they're going out with 8 & 9 and they don't show up on my account on hachette's site.

Just assumed.

I'm probably wrong.

I am most days.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 08 April, 2015, 04:41:30 pm
As I understand it the bookends were down as 4th delivery not including issue 1, so if you got the coasters with your last delivey, then there will be no free gifts with this one as the coasters count as 2nd delivery for free gift purposes.

Unusually my account updated today showing that only one issue has been dispatched (which I expect to be issue 7), instead of the usual two issues per month. I wonder if this is to bring me back inline with other subscribers who received issues 4 and 5 for their last delivery...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jamie1000013 on 12 April, 2015, 01:14:05 pm
What's Mandroid like? I think my favourite so far has been Origins. Story was great and I love how it all linked together, past and present. It also gave me a lot of background info since I am generally a new reader since prog 1900. Looking forward to stories about Dredd's clone brother, cursed earth stories (Angel gang mostly), and just some wacky stories.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 14 April, 2015, 09:49:32 pm
Mandroid was my favourite so far - grim & compelling. Origins may be far more satisfying for a long term reader but I wasn't always aware of the dots from the past being joined. Carlos art is solid on Origins but maybe not as inventive as Necropolis or textured as the Apocalypse war. I went into Mandroid expecting nothing but a rip-off terminator story and was blown away.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jamie1000013 on 14 April, 2015, 10:09:31 pm

Any subs got Mandriod and Heavy mob yet? Still haven't got mine and really looking forward to getting them. What is Heavy Mob like for those who have it?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 14 April, 2015, 10:27:05 pm
Subbed about 2 - 3 weeks ago but still waiting on issue 6, bought issue 1 - 5 from WHSmiths. Nothing showing on account but states wait 28 days for delivery.

Looking forward to issue 6 when it lands
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Kudos on 14 April, 2015, 11:26:36 pm

Any subs got Mandriod and Heavy mob yet? Still haven't got mine and really looking forward to getting them. What is Heavy Mob like for those who have it?

I wasn't impressed... http://www.sidekickcast.com/judge-dredd-mega-collection-7-the-heavy-mob/
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 15 April, 2015, 01:47:41 am

Any subs got Mandriod and Heavy mob yet? Still haven't got mine and really looking forward to getting them. What is Heavy Mob like for those who have it?

I wasn't impressed... http://www.sidekickcast.com/judge-dredd-mega-collection-7-the-heavy-mob/

I like that review!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 15 April, 2015, 10:19:56 am
Maybe we overestimate the amount of quality material that really exists for books of this size, but it is a pity mediocre content isn't being used as filler but as the basis for much of a volume. I hope one iffy volume doesn't impact on subs or people buying issue-to-issue.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 15 April, 2015, 10:50:09 am
Sometimes it pays not to be a completist  :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: SIP on 15 April, 2015, 10:56:21 am
The heavy mob  book is the first book of the run that I'm not going to buy.  I share the sentiments that is an odd choice of stories to showcase, especially at this point in the run.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 15 April, 2015, 12:32:53 pm
Heavy mob is one of the books that I am MOST interested in getting. As I don't have the stories collected elsewhere and although I know that they are not the best written ones there is some lovely art
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 15 April, 2015, 12:46:09 pm
The Corps and Maelstrom(has It ever been reprinted)would surely have made better stories and Debris is an odd choice as alone it doesn't work for a new reader.Still I loved Wynter(why did this not return) and it's got some great art.Brit-cit Brute is still awful not to be disrespectful but Morrison and Percival have done superior work father earth is great.really looking forward to Cursed Earth.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 15 April, 2015, 01:50:59 pm
The Corps and Maelstrom(has It ever been reprinted)would surely have made better stories

The Corps and Maelstrom have been reprinted together in an extreme edition. This can be found using the obligate symbiotic monster Google.


Fear not though, as they will also be reprinted in an upcoming edition of the Mega Collection as it says here http://www.sidekickcast.com/judge-dredd-mega-collection-7-the-heavy-mob/ ''When we saw this issue’s title we expected to see The Corp, Insurrection or Maelstrom as those stories give a better glimpse at the Space Corp than anything presented here, but the introduction in this book says these stories will be presented at a later date'' and seemingly also in the very book you mention
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 15 April, 2015, 01:52:03 pm
Maybe we overestimate the amount of quality material that really exists for books of this size

I reckon they have run out of stories
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 16 April, 2015, 04:59:55 am
Can't please everyone I suppose I enjoyed this book it was a nice collection
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 16 April, 2015, 10:26:12 am
This was a very strange collection of stories - the start to Debris was abrupt & k have no idea who Dolman is from this collection. Nice cover but much of the art made me think back to TOXIC! The bolland stuff was a nice surprise but overall this was disappointing. Great endpapers, cover, intro & interview. This is the first wobble of an issue in an otherwise stellar series. I guess I'd rather see more regular stuff first - very happy to see cursed earth next fortnight. I'll be scanning in the missing pages and getting the Pritt stick out!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Buttonman on 16 April, 2015, 10:38:02 am
Not got mine yet!

In 80 volumes there will be the odd clunker - got to spread them around or no one will buy when the good stuff is finished!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 April, 2015, 10:39:46 am
The obvious response there is perhaps there should have been fewer volumes.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grugz on 16 April, 2015, 02:24:22 pm
got "heavy mob" read it, wasn't my cup o' joe,selling it ...any offers pm me before I stick it on ebay.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 16 April, 2015, 04:35:57 pm
Reading "Warzone" was particularly mind boggling - it's not obvious for pages that we're not on earth. The lush forrest did seem strange for the Cursed Earth. Since there was no planet fall sequence I was left confused. Was there any explanation in the original megazine issues or did this "forgotten war" exist in other stories - or am I guilty of being dim?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Silent_Bomber on 16 April, 2015, 09:32:57 pm
Maybe we overestimate the amount of quality material that really exists for books of this size

I reckon they have run out of stories

I was going to attempt to prove this wrong but I only managed to list 50 odd :(

I'm still fairly optimistic 80 could be done though.


Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 17 April, 2015, 08:50:20 am
Issues 6 & 7 have just arrived from Hachette, 8 days after they first appeared as posted on my subs page.

Both in perfect condition.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 17 April, 2015, 10:45:44 am
Maybe we overestimate the amount of quality material that really exists for books of this size

I reckon they have run out of stories

I was going to attempt to prove this wrong but I only managed to list 50 odd :(

I'm still fairly optimistic 80 could be done though.

I was being facetious.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Super Mario on 17 April, 2015, 12:13:52 pm
I liked the first Holocaust 12 story and the second was okay even though the Holocaust Squad barely featured. But I found Langly's art very hard to make out, all blurry and over-saturated, although I enjoyed some of his designs. It was interesting to see an example of his early work.

I didn't think Brit Cit Brute would be as bad as folk were making out, but the first story proved me wrong. A bizarre choice for the collection I think.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 17 April, 2015, 06:06:30 pm
Just picked up my copy from the newsagent, and a quick flick through reveals at least half of this looks to be of interest. Some poor repro on the older stories though, which is maybe understandable.

As others have said, maybe better stories could have been included - though im not a Meg reader, so im pretty unfamiliar with what's out there.

Im sure there will be some duds in this collection (And 80 books, now that I think of it - again, is a lot to fill, though im sure there's enough quality material to fill the bulk of them...)

Next fortnight's offering though, is an undisputed classic, so well and truly back on course.
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: glassstanley on 17 April, 2015, 07:01:50 pm
The Bolland pages of Father Earth are very poorly reproduced, especially the one with the droids commenting on the election. Letraset dot patterns have been printed as solid blacks, losing all of the robot design. Would be worth Rebellion rescanning the Titan collection for their archive to prevent this happening in future. There's no real reason for such poor reproduction of those episodes.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 17 April, 2015, 07:16:09 pm
The cover for the heavy mob collection who is this by? I think it's Cliff Robinson but feel I am dead wrong
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 17 April, 2015, 07:47:49 pm
Dylan Teague I think.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 17 April, 2015, 09:27:26 pm
Thought I was wrong thanks Steve
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Geoff on 17 April, 2015, 11:55:37 pm
Been away for work and have returned home to find 2 books of Dredd stories I don't think I've ever read! (Excluding Father Earth of course). A first for me and the mega collection.

Just finished the first Mandroid story - dark and disturbing but brilliant.
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 18 April, 2015, 09:31:56 am
The Bolland pages of Father Earth are very poorly reproduced, especially the one with the droids commenting on the election. Letraset dot patterns have been printed as solid blacks, losing all of the robot design. Would be worth Rebellion rescanning the Titan collection for their archive to prevent this happening in future. There's no real reason for such poor reproduction of those episodes.

I thought exactly the same.  This is the old Titan from 1983(left) vs Machete (right).  Considering that this is probably the highlight of a particularly poor volume this is a particular disappointment.  There were similar, though not quite so extreme, issues with the Apocalypse War volume in places (the Dillon pages in particular).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 18 April, 2015, 10:07:53 am
My god I thought the use of black was extreme. Doesn't bode well for judge death
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Pete Wells on 18 April, 2015, 11:04:10 am
This is the old Titan from 1983(left) vs Machete (right).

Ha ha! Real Freudian slip there!
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: glassstanley on 18 April, 2015, 11:53:40 am
Have just checked Case Files 3 and Father Earth is the same in there. Judge Death is fine, though, which suggests that it will be OK for the Mega Collection. Still a shame that it's Bolland's work that's affected.
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: glassstanley on 18 April, 2015, 11:58:06 am
On a more positive note, the Heavy Mob is probably my favourite of the releases so far! Nice to see some of these lesser strips in print again. Finally made the effort to read Wynter carefully and I now wish we'd seen more of the character. An interesting contrast to Cursed Earth Coburn.

Looking forward to reading the comments when Vol 68 is released - Sleeze 'n' Ryder!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 18 April, 2015, 12:35:13 pm
Nothing beats the old Titans  :)
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 18 April, 2015, 06:38:23 pm
On a more positive note, the Heavy Mob is probably my favourite of the releases so far! Nice to see some of these lesser strips in print again.

I really enjoyed it too.

Pah! On these naysayers.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Judge Nutmeg on 18 April, 2015, 07:51:13 pm
an odd mix but i still enjoyed it , David Milgate's art was great, can anyone reccomend any plastic covers as my copies keep getting grubby.
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: glassstanley on 19 April, 2015, 12:01:19 am
Just wash your hands more often :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 19 April, 2015, 11:28:18 am
Figures there'll be one 1 (probably 10) or so books that won't be to one's liking. Especially with the Millar and Morrison "Dredd" stuff coming up.

Any ideas what books 9-10 will be?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 19 April, 2015, 04:27:28 pm
I just read Anderson Shamballa. While not my fav. read, there are some good stuff between the pages. Simply one of those mega collection books I probably won't read again as often as -... say Origins, Tour of Duty or Day of chaos- others, but I enjoyed it.

I very much enjoyed Michael Molcher's reasoning on why the stories resonates with him. Both in the end blurb and podcast. Fascinating that the Dredd verse can serve as a vessel for spirituality.  I'm quite hoping we'll get to see another another book with Arthur Ranson's Judge Anderson in the Mega collection!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mardroid on 20 April, 2015, 12:04:23 pm
This was the first time I read the first installment of Mandroid. (The first was before my time but The caught the second.)

I enjoyed them both. I think I enjoyed the second more in this format in one long read than i did in the individual issues. I've found a lot of the more modern stories seem to be served better by the collections than the individual issues, although that might be due to my faulty memory. I find myself struggling from week to week remembering what happened... but often feel too lazy to go back and read the previous chapters.

I can see how the paragraph recap of older stories washelpful for that reason although conversely annoying in collections...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 20 April, 2015, 01:48:28 pm
I just read Anderson Shamballa. 
there are some good stuff between the pages

You like the binding?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 21 April, 2015, 09:56:47 pm
For those who subbed to this, I got my first delivery with issue 6 and 7 but no freebies, were these a sign up perk if you joined at the start?

Just wondering if I should be expecting them or if they have gone walkies in HRH postal system!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 22 April, 2015, 08:07:52 am
I believe the next freebie (the bookends) should be with the next delivery (8&9)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 22 April, 2015, 09:34:57 am
I picked up Issues 1 - 5 from WHSmith then subbed and just got issue 6 and 7 so this is my first delivery.

I assume it might be the next issue that comes out where the badge and cup are sent? 3rd delivery costers! and then probably issue 11/12 for the bookends for myself as I subbed late?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 22 April, 2015, 09:44:05 am
I picked up Issues 1 - 5 from WHSmith then subbed and just got issue 6 and 7 so this is my first delivery.

I assume it might be the next issue that comes out where the badge and cup are sent? 3rd delivery costers! and then probably issue 11/12 for the bookends for myself as I subbed late?

Bad news I'm afraid. As it says on the Hachette website, "Subscriptions gifts are reserved for customers starting with issue 1, 2, 3 or 4".
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 22 April, 2015, 11:21:55 am
Ah, no worries then, looks like I missed out. Not a problem, means less clutter in the house xD

Wonder if I could contact them and buy the book ends, not fussed with the rest tbh.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 22 April, 2015, 12:20:30 pm
Their customer services lot are pretty good, so it's worth a shot. If not, I'll bet someone here would probably be happy to offload theirs.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 22 April, 2015, 12:35:13 pm
Just dropped them an email to see if they can do anything :)

Got issue 6 and 7 together, 7 had a slight ding in the cover but nothing major, was in a sturdy box too so looks like it was abused via the postal system.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 22 April, 2015, 12:51:28 pm
I just broke my mug  :'(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 22 April, 2015, 02:38:55 pm
Speedy response from their customer support, they can't sell the items separately or offer them.

So if anyone is interested on moving on the book ends if any subs get them, please drop me a line as I would be interested.

Thanks
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 22 April, 2015, 02:51:33 pm
Worth keeping your eye on ebay (depending on what you want to pay for them).  I've seen the other free gifts on there lately.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 22 April, 2015, 02:55:06 pm
Thanks for the heads up, I am assuming some of the items are inflated heavily?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 22 April, 2015, 03:05:45 pm
Thanks for the heads up, I am assuming some of the items are inflated heavily?

I managed to get the free balloon on Ebay, and that was.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 22 April, 2015, 03:15:20 pm
Tenner for the coasters. 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X2000ad+coasters.TRS0&_nkw=2000ad+coasters&_sacat=0

Tenner for the mug and coasters.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Judge-Dredd-Mega-Collection-Tall-Mug-and-Coasters-Set-New-/221750461873?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item33a15b85b1

Badge looks to be more popular.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=judge+dredd+mug&_from=R40|R40|R40|R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xjudge+dredd+badge.TRS0&_nkw=judge+dredd+badge&_sacat=0
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 22 April, 2015, 03:20:40 pm
Thanks for the heads up, I am assuming some of the items are inflated heavily?

I managed to get the free balloon on Ebay, and that was.

Ba-dum ish.....

Will see if there are any bargains to be had.

Just seen those myself Moldovangerbil :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 22 April, 2015, 03:27:46 pm
Cool.  Good luck if you bid!  I've no idea why the badge seems to be more expensive.  It's not bad as these things go, but the others are generally nicer items (apart from the weird rubber top on the mug).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Boo on 25 April, 2015, 10:01:07 am
I reviewed The Cursed Earth over here. Really loved it: http://www.sidekickcast.com/judge-dredd-mega-collection-8-the-cursed-earth/
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Andy Smart on 25 April, 2015, 01:42:17 pm
I reviewed The Cursed Earth over here. Really loved it: http://www.sidekickcast.com/judge-dredd-mega-collection-8-the-cursed-earth/

I like the cover choice.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 26 April, 2015, 03:53:05 pm
I reviewed The Cursed Earth over here. Really loved it: http://www.sidekickcast.com/judge-dredd-mega-collection-8-the-cursed-earth/

Great/funny review! Loved it. Can't wait till I get my copy. Cover is brilliant!

Cursed earth is one of my absolute fav. epics! It's brilliant throughout. And to think that Garland was considering including Satanus in a (based upon Cursed earth/Origins) Dredd sequel!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 26 April, 2015, 07:44:47 pm
Behind the times (as usual), I just finished Mandroid.  Damn, it was great to re-read that in one collection!  This is has to be my favourite of the collections so far.  As usual, quality of the reprints (spine, cover, colour etc) was exemplary.

To think I was debating getting this series.  £20 a month well bloody spent, if you ask me!!!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: iutley on 28 April, 2015, 12:27:13 pm
In case anyone missed my seperate post on this I've put my Test Area Editions of America, Mechanismo & Apocalypse War from last year up on ebay. Have a look here if interested:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/iutley73/m.html?_ipg=50&_sop=12&_rdc=1 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/iutley73/m.html?_ipg=50&_sop=12&_rdc=1)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bolt-01 on 28 April, 2015, 02:10:00 pm
I'm sorry if I've missed it in one of the other posts here, but I'd quite like to get a copy of the Mandroid book and the Hachette site is only really giving me the option to sub. Is there a simple way for me to get this volume?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 28 April, 2015, 02:15:42 pm
I'm sorry if I've missed it in one of the other posts here, but I'd quite like to get a copy of the Mandroid book and the Hachette site is only really giving me the option to sub. Is there a simple way for me to get this volume?

This any good for you?

http://www.hachettepartworks.com/products/9372-judge-dredd-the-mega-collection.aspx

Seems to list the back issues, strangely enough it lists all the way to issue 20 xD
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 28 April, 2015, 02:24:27 pm
Seems to list the back issues, strangely enough it lists all the way to issue 20 xD

I think you'll find it lists all 80...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bolt-01 on 28 April, 2015, 02:29:22 pm
Grey M@a- Massive thanks- Exactly what I wanted.

Now- Mandroid was book six, right?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 28 April, 2015, 02:30:02 pm
Seems to list the back issues, strangely enough it lists all the way to issue 20 xD

I think you'll find it lists all 80...

Does indeed, FF at work was only showing 20, Chrome showing the list of 80, either way, that is the back issues order form I think Bolt was looking for  :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 28 April, 2015, 02:30:35 pm
Grey M@a- Massive thanks- Exactly what I wanted.

Now- Mandroid was book six, right?

Aye, book 6 :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bolt-01 on 28 April, 2015, 02:36:15 pm
Sweet- ordered.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 28 April, 2015, 04:50:35 pm
Sweet- ordered.

Do the charge p&p on top of the 9.99?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 28 April, 2015, 04:56:31 pm
Hachette bumped 50p P&P onto the 9.99 when I ordered a book. Decent service.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 28 April, 2015, 08:44:34 pm
Seems to list the back issues, strangely enough it lists all the way to issue 20 xD

I think you'll find it lists all 80...

Only as issue numbers, not with details / view options  :(

Only first 8 are 'in stock'.

 :-\
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 29 April, 2015, 12:15:03 am
Hachette bumped 50p P&P onto the 9.99 when I ordered a book. Decent service.

Cool. I'll mention that NEXT preview I do. Just done Issue 9 Swimming in Blood (https://judgetutorsemple.wordpress.com/2015/04/29/judge-dredd-mega-collection-issue-9-13th-april-2015-includes-preview-pages/)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 29 April, 2015, 01:02:40 am
Nice work BK, first confirmation of volume 9 I've seen. Tharg & Hachette keeping the future volumes pretty secret which I'm all for.

The early Megs are available so I don't see any reason to pick this one up. John Smith is a strange fish. I have clear memories of loving New Statesmen (Crisis) and Swimming In Blood (and probably Cinnabar too) but then it got tricky. His purplish prose elsewhere left me cold on the current 'slog. Latterly I skipped the text and scanned the pictures only. An interesting and curious writer.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 29 April, 2015, 09:20:30 am
Yeah I have the pdf for 10 already but won't preview it yet... It isn't good to go too early, though there is no embargo. Vwe are asked to avoid spoilers.

I hate spoilers so it is easy for me to oblige. When I say there are alerts in my articles I assume many readers wonder where as I seem to be a bit more spoiler-sensitive.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 29 April, 2015, 09:32:29 am
Has anyone seen a copy of Cursed Earth in the wild yet. I looked in Paddington station whsmiths but nothing!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 29 April, 2015, 11:11:20 am
Interesting order with the Devlin book—I guess not trampling over the recent trade is a smart idea. (Still odd to see it so early in the schedule though.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 29 April, 2015, 02:45:10 pm
Is this one in the same order as the previous Swimming in Blood (not the most recent) trade or something different again?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 29 April, 2015, 03:16:02 pm
I found the Mega Collection Issue 8: The Cursed Earth finally in WHSmiths, hidden by the till. The Bolland stuff looks crisp and the entire quality of the book from design to the choice of backup strip is amazing. The John Higgins backup annual story "Last of the Bad guys" is a great thematic companion to the main thrill. Of course I'd like to see the missing copyright infringing chapters but their omission is neatly addressed in the intro with a couple of illustrations. One day we'll see a complete Cursed Earth saga book with the centre-spreads in colour and the 4 pinups from the titan books included but this is great for now. This series is looking strong after last fortnight's wobble & with Devlin Waugh next month it's just getting better!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 29 April, 2015, 05:39:33 pm
Swimming in Blood oh yes fantastic.Now if we could only get some new adventures with devlin please it's been eight goddamn years.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 29 April, 2015, 06:01:06 pm
I know this is a bit behind just wondering what happened to Simon Coleby that he couldn't finish the second Mandroid story and the equally talented Carl Critchlow had to the take over art duties?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richmond Clements on 29 April, 2015, 06:26:08 pm
I know this is a bit behind just wondering what happened to Simon Coleby that he couldn't finish the second Mandroid story and the equally talented Carl Critchlow had to the take over art duties?

I think Simon got the Authority gig right around this time...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 29 April, 2015, 06:54:10 pm
Nice grouping of waugh stories and that could potentially leave two more books with sirius rising and a chunk of uncollected waugh stuff as well as the stuff in the original trade not here
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 30 April, 2015, 10:33:06 am
Thanks Richard
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 30 April, 2015, 10:50:15 am
Anyone know when the next art print will be announced?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Grey M@a on 01 May, 2015, 12:36:13 pm
Just had Issue 6 and 7 delivered together last weekend, is issue 8 with subs now? Just wondering if the delivery is held back with me getting my other issues a week or so ago.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 01 May, 2015, 12:36:39 pm
Was put off the prints when I realised they were the same size as the books and cost £14 each.  Seems a bit pricey - although the artists are stellar. Loved that Bolland's using a rejected Eagle comic cover  design as his inspiration - Fattie & Dredd. On a different note I realise Shimura is coming up after Devlin Waugh. Is it likely to have more material than the existing trade?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 01 May, 2015, 06:16:04 pm
Was put off the prints when I realised they were the same size as the books and cost £14 each.  Seems a bit pricey -

True, but it also includes 'a mount'.  Be interesting to see what it looks like.  The bookplate print for Underbelly was the same size as the book on card stock.  If the first one doesn't look too impressive in real life then I can see a downgrade coming.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 04 May, 2015, 12:20:19 pm
I'd rather some more Dredd, especially all the Megazine Dredd that hasn't been plundered, than 'Rebellions existing GN line' which this is rapidly turning into.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 04 May, 2015, 12:49:37 pm
Yeah, As a non Meg buyer, id love to see more stuff from that publication in the Mega collection. I guess with this being a run of 80 books, then there's the chance , at least, that we'll see more of that.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 04 May, 2015, 01:28:21 pm
Yeah, As a non Meg buyer, id love to see more stuff from that publication in the Mega collection. I guess with this being a run of 80 books, then there's the chance , at least, that we'll see more of that.

80 books will soon fill up if they are sticking largely to existing reprint material. Ancillary characters seem destined to be getting 15-20 by themselves, epics another 15-20, existing collections (like mandroid, Satans Island, total war) another 10-15. There is a wealth of great Dredd from the last 15 years that they shouldn't be frit of using for these without fear of impact on future reprint value. Devon Waugh and Shimura are grand but they are out in existing GN and can hardly be considered core Dredd. A Dirty Frank collection would be good as it is spread across three disparate books (lowlife 1&2, trifecta) or uncollected, Insurrection great because the decision to publish 1&2 when a finale was announced a bit weird but another Shimura.... Meh.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 04 May, 2015, 04:13:14 pm
Yeah, As a non Meg buyer, id love to see more stuff from that publication in the Mega collection. I guess with this being a run of 80 books, then there's the chance , at least, that we'll see more of that.

Book of complete Koburn please!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Silent_Bomber on 04 May, 2015, 05:11:01 pm
Yeah, As a non Meg buyer, id love to see more stuff from that publication in the Mega collection. I guess with this being a run of 80 books, then there's the chance , at least, that we'll see more of that.

80 books will soon fill up if they are sticking largely to existing reprint material. Ancillary characters seem destined to be getting 15-20 by themselves, epics another 15-20, existing collections (like mandroid, Satans Island, total war) another 10-15.

A very large number of the existing trades will need a lot of padding to come near the ~200 odd page requirement. Satan's Island and The Chief Judges Man are barely over 100 pages long. City of the Damned, Young Death, Song of the Surfer etc are like 80 odd pages IIRC, some others are closer to 60 pages.

I'd say the existing trades generally are ~135 pages more often than not, so most of them may have to have 50 odd pages of shorter stories added to them to make up the required page count. As such Hachette may eat through the existing trades a lot faster than you'd think.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Link Prime on 04 May, 2015, 07:13:30 pm
Yeah, As a non Meg buyer, id love to see more stuff from that publication in the Mega collection. I guess with this being a run of 80 books, then there's the chance , at least, that we'll see more of that.

Book of complete Koburn please!

The Komplete Koburn must happen.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 04 May, 2015, 07:31:46 pm
Koburn's on the spine image, so it's a cert that he'll get a book to himself - padded out with a few other Carlos stores, no doubt.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 05 May, 2015, 10:19:28 am
I hope they do not include that Garth Ennis story in the chopper book.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 05 May, 2015, 10:43:50 am
You have to take the rough with the smooth...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin Zeal on 05 May, 2015, 11:30:00 am
Ennis is likely to get a book of his own, isn't he? Probably Helter Skelter and the page difference made up with his run on Dredd.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 05 May, 2015, 11:39:20 am
I think the Irish stories have already been confirmed. I loved some of the Ennis stuff - the Humters club. Never read Heltef Skelter although I've seen the Halo Jones page
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 05 May, 2015, 12:36:48 pm
Ennis is likely to get a book of his own, isn't he? Probably Helter Skelter and the page difference made up with his run on Dredd.

I'd like to read helter skelter
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 05 May, 2015, 12:58:14 pm
Get out your glue & scissors and you too could make a COMPLETE Judge Dredd Cursed Earth with the missing stories...

http://youtu.be/USFJjtsDj64
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 05 May, 2015, 01:52:34 pm
These books would have been so much nicer with the colour spreads - really missed a trick there.

I can only hope that the deluxe case files that is coming out is using new scans of the art, rather than the scans that have been used in the case files and the mega collection
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 05 May, 2015, 02:28:54 pm
Get out your glue & scissors and you too could make a COMPLETE Judge Dredd Cursed Earth with the missing stories...
How on earth did you get those extra pages to stay in place?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 05 May, 2015, 02:31:53 pm
Copydex on spine - there's gutter loss but I'm pleased. Surprised these pages haven't been redrawn or disguised at some stage. Still if Zenith & Dan Dare can be reprinted any things possible.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Albion on 05 May, 2015, 03:04:06 pm
Nice work.
When the Case Files came out I printed the missing stuff and I keep them in an envelope on the bookshelf with the books.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jock Savage on 05 May, 2015, 04:57:18 pm
Ennis is likely to get a book of his own, isn't he? Probably Helter Skelter and the page difference made up with his run on Dredd.

I'd like to read helter skelter

Imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 05 May, 2015, 08:23:26 pm
Ennis is guarranteed at least 2 helter skelter and judgement day and the irish stuffs confirmed right so thats 3....and presumably goodnight kiss will be reprinted too
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Silent_Bomber on 05 May, 2015, 09:58:58 pm
Ennis is guaranteed at least 2 helter skelter and judgement day and the Irish stuffs confirmed right so that's 3....and presumably goodnight kiss will be reprinted too

I quite like Monkey On My Back. I would prefer it over the aforementioned.

Though I'm not sure what it would go with and its less than 50 pages long I think.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 05 May, 2015, 10:13:20 pm
Goodnight Kiss is terrible. Key period bad Dredd.

For the sake of (the thesedays tremendously talented) Garth Ennis and the 'new readers' 2000AD wants to get from this exercise it is precisely the type of stuff to avoid. Mind you The first half of The Heavy Mob volume was exactly that over the top, not-funny, maschismo tosh that drove so many away from the comic so its clearly not verboten.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Silent_Bomber on 06 May, 2015, 10:38:27 am
I don't mind Marshal/Goodnight Kiss, it has distinctive artwork, good fight scenes, Dredd eating Vultures whilst nailed to a cross!, and IMO the scene with the ghosts is reasonable too, I find it generally inoffensive.

I really don't like Helter Skelter at all though. Judgement Day is a little better but only because it has Johnny Alpha and an army of Zombies in it and at least comes across as grandiose (as opposed to just feeling like bad fan-fiction).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 06 May, 2015, 11:12:09 am
Is the Marshall the story with amazing Sean Phillips painted art? Generally I don't mind a simple story with great art or vice versa.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 06 May, 2015, 12:56:14 pm
I hope Miller gets a collection!  ::)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 06 May, 2015, 12:58:13 pm
Frank Miller? They can use his Megazine Cover!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 06 May, 2015, 05:07:00 pm
I hope Miller gets a collection!  :rolleyes:


 :'(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 06 May, 2015, 06:51:25 pm
It would be the smallest collection
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 06 May, 2015, 07:48:31 pm
It should be a sheet of paper, folded in half, with the word "sorry" written on it. But we've already heard we're getting garbage like Inferno in amongst otherwise largely good stuff, so Miller's in the mix regardless.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 06 May, 2015, 08:18:58 pm
While I'm in no way a fan of Inferno, least the art is really good. Ezquerra really shined in it.

One story I really hope the mega collection skips is The satanist. I much much much rather read Brothers of the Blood and Total War (that totally should have BotB as a back up story) to get an idea how Vienna felt early on.

Also everything Chopper after Song of the surfer.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 07 May, 2015, 11:29:30 am
Yeah, Ezquerra's painted art in the 1990s was brilliant, it is a shame the stories were not classics.

If Inferno is combined with Purgatory that would be good!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 07 May, 2015, 12:15:19 pm
Inferno & Purgatory are confirmed - I assume together.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 May, 2015, 01:30:07 pm
Can I make a suggestion for a future issue please?

With thanks to Barry Renshaw for the art:

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/927C73DC-E637-4CEC-B8CA-024F6DC834AD_zpsihuwmzr6.jpg) (http://s186.photobucket.com/user/scowling_monkey/media/927C73DC-E637-4CEC-B8CA-024F6DC834AD_zpsihuwmzr6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 07 May, 2015, 01:32:09 pm
Judge Pal needs a shave, there!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 07 May, 2015, 10:31:21 pm
Have you been reading Dredd's comportment again?!

Here's a better pic with a credit for Barry and Annie's name proofread!

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x32/scowling_monkey/53EC7E2F-42B8-4D0D-9587-B4374B568E72_zps9dmhmcor.jpg) (http://s186.photobucket.com/user/scowling_monkey/media/53EC7E2F-42B8-4D0D-9587-B4374B568E72_zps9dmhmcor.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 08 May, 2015, 08:54:11 am
Can anyone guess what's in the first Devlin Waugh book? Will they skip anything to get to the 200 pages?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 08 May, 2015, 11:26:08 am
Waugh Collection includes Swimming in blood,brief encounter,Red Tide and bite fight.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 08 May, 2015, 04:28:37 pm
Does that miss out "fetish" then where Siku gives Dredd a crazy chin?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 08 May, 2015, 05:08:36 pm
Does that miss out "fetish" then where Siku gives Dredd a crazy chin?

Chronologically speaking, it misses out Chasing Herod, Reign of Frogs, Sirius Rising, and Mouthful of Dust!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 08 May, 2015, 05:10:34 pm
Are they missing out these to favour painted art - or just to print the best material?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 08 May, 2015, 05:16:01 pm
Bit of both, maybe? The stories they've chosen are all fully painted, so that's possibly the key, and having Red Tide and Swimming in Blood in the same book makes a certain kind of sense.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 08 May, 2015, 10:08:52 pm
Here's my Preview of the Devlin Waugh volume (https://judgetutorsemple.wordpress.com/2015/04/29/judge-dredd-mega-collection-issue-9-13th-april-2015-includes-preview-pages/).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 08 May, 2015, 10:10:56 pm
This volume looks great - thanks for that
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 09 May, 2015, 08:48:01 am
Pleasant surprise to receive The Cursed Earth & Swimming in Blood volumes this morning. I wasn't expecting them for at least another week.

The Swimming in Blood cover is different from the PDF review that Bat King reviewed. I also received the final subscribers gift of the book ends.

The Swimming in Blood cover that I got is shown on the advert on the back of next weeks 2000 AD.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 09 May, 2015, 11:56:26 am
What does the cover look like?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 10 May, 2015, 03:55:51 pm
Just read the Heavy Mob - oh dear!


Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: dancornwell on 10 May, 2015, 04:51:38 pm
Anyone received the premium sub prints yet?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: kingzud on 10 May, 2015, 06:00:51 pm
First the partworks Marvel collections. Then the partworks Dredd Mega collection. Now just found this from Eaglemoss...

This Eaglemoss collection has been running in Germany since the start of the year. Just found this webpage advertising for UK subscriptions.....

https://www.eaglemoss.com/en-gb/comic-heroes/dc-comic-books/

However, it does not appear to be on eaglemoss main site...

https://www.eaglemoss.com/en-gb/

Anyone else aware of it. Wondering if this is a test release, to be rolled out in the UK nationally if there is enough interest.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 10 May, 2015, 06:20:22 pm
Anyone received the premium sub prints yet?

First one with issue 10 according to the Hachete site, so should be next month.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 10 May, 2015, 09:25:04 pm
Saw the eaglemoss dc heroes collection - interestingly the spines are labelled which makes cherry picking more likely. The page count must be 130 ish if Hush is split over 2 books. Makes Dredd look a bargain.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 10 May, 2015, 10:34:38 pm
It's not classy but it is funny. Devlin Waugh sizes up Dredd's stick!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: dancornwell on 10 May, 2015, 11:05:23 pm
Anyone received the premium sub prints yet?

First one with issue 10 according to the Hachete site, so should be next month.

Oh good'o. And looking forward to those 2 new ones. It's a great collection
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: glassstanley on 11 May, 2015, 07:37:03 pm
Hmm. Trying to work out how the Mega-Epic numbering section works.
32- The Cursed Earth (confirmed)
33- The Day The Law Died
34- The Judge Child
35- ?
36- The Apocalypse War (confirmed)

Any guesses?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: I, Cosh on 11 May, 2015, 07:44:44 pm
The Mega Rackets
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 11 May, 2015, 09:57:48 pm
Judge Death? Luna-1?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mardroid on 11 May, 2015, 10:16:17 pm
I found the latest 2 collections, with book-ends, waiting when I got home.

I've read the Cursed Earth before as part of the Case Files, and I believe I've read some Devlin Waugh, but I'm not sure how far I got. Be interested to see what's in these collections...

Just read The Heavy Mob. My verdict:

Holocaust 12 stuff: Lovely art in the first story. The second was rather muddly looking. The stories... so so. I don't dislike any of the stuff in this collection but this wasn't entirely my cup of tea.

Brit-Cit Brute: Rather amusing in places.

Wynter: Hmm. Undecided. Found it a bit difficult to work out what was going on.

Father Earth: I've read this before elswhere. Yes, it's pretty good. I do find the older narration style a bit to get used to but the story was good.

Debris: This was relatively recent wasn't it? It's very welcome though. Actually one of my favourite stories in this collection. l love PJ Holden's art style.

Warzone. Wow. They left the best 'til last. I found some of the action scenes a bit hard to follow (but this was not the only story in this collection where that's the case. I'm pretty rubbish at following action stuff in comics...) but that was very enjoyable and touching. First time reading it to. I guess it was in the Meg either before my time, or in the time period between buying it. (I've stuck with the Prog since I first subscribed, but with the Meg I've come and gone. ) So good.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 11 May, 2015, 10:54:03 pm
My sub arrived, with the bookends. The first set in great condition, and so naturally I dropped the damn things on the floor while trying to make room on the desk. Some kind of cosmic joke, clearly.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 11 May, 2015, 11:16:14 pm
I know there's no strict definition, but I always felt that a story had to run for 25/26 episodes to really qualify as a 'Mega Epic'.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 11 May, 2015, 11:21:13 pm
Yes you're probably right. Can any Devlin Waugh fans help me? Is there enough material for a second Waugh book in this collection - I remember there being art by Gaydos & Yeowell but would it work as a Esperanto volume? I was never sure how popular this material was having only read odd bits.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 11 May, 2015, 11:30:12 pm
Not sure there's a big enough Esperanto-speaking audience to make it viable.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: I, Cosh on 12 May, 2015, 12:10:12 am
We speak Esperanto in the office every morning. Unfortunately, the extent of our prowess is "hot drink?"
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 12 May, 2015, 08:05:03 am
Sorry "seperate" not "Esperanto" volumes! Is the Yeowell stuff good fun?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 12 May, 2015, 08:39:51 am
The Esperanto Volume is in the Stainless Steel Rat Steelbook Editions only I think.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: I, Cosh on 12 May, 2015, 09:02:56 am
The Esperanto Volume is in the Stainless Steel Rat Steelbook Editions only I think.
Arf!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 May, 2015, 10:58:14 am
Sorry "seperate" not "Esperanto" volumes! Is the Yeowell stuff good fun?
If you mean the whole Chasing Herod/Reign of Frogs/Sirius Rising thing, very much no. It was certainly good and read well in a single volume, but it's relentlessly grim.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 12 May, 2015, 01:31:05 pm
Thanks - I'll track them down if they don't get reprinted.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 13 May, 2015, 12:14:30 pm
Best Endpapers Ever?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 13 May, 2015, 10:14:33 pm
Is the "Fingers off the triggers, sphincters unclenched" line included in the Devlin Waugh one?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mardroid on 13 May, 2015, 10:25:39 pm
Heh, yes. I read that line just recently in fact (working my way through the volume today. Okay, I broke off to read this week's prog...

Pretty good, by the way, but kinda nasty in places. (That's not a criticism.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 13 May, 2015, 10:26:34 pm
Yes - it's a great volume. My only gripe would be that the Jock original art for Red Tide wasn't included. But instead there's a great Matt Smith intro & recent Sean Phillips 4 page interview. in the first episode there's a caption box "continues in page 26" - which oddly made me happy. I'm guessing this is from the original  megazine. AND DEVLIN IS ON THE SPINE! It's genius! Plus the promise of 2 more Devlin volumes
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 15 May, 2015, 11:06:11 am
Heh, yes. I read that line just recently in fact (working my way through the volume today. Okay, I broke off to read this week's prog...

Pretty good, by the way, but kinda nasty in places. (That's not a criticism.)

Thanks. Can't wait to read it. Nasty sounds nice  :D

Btw. Anyone who gathered what volumes we'll see?

Here's the ones I'v found.

Vol. 1 America
Vol. 8 Judge Anderson The possessed (according to v.10)
Vol. 10 Anderson Shamballa
Vol. 24 Mechanismo
Vol. 25 Mandroid
Vol. 32 Cursed earth
Vol. 36 Bloc Mania/Apocalypse War
Vol. 45 Origins
Vol. 55 The heavy mob
Vol. 56 Insurrection (according to 55)
vol. 76 The corps & Maelstorm (acc. 55)

Additional:
Koburn
3 Devlin Waugh books (including the recent one)
Shimura (according to flickering myths)

Any more?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: glassstanley on 15 May, 2015, 01:17:06 pm
I think we can guess at:
33: The Day the Law Died
34: The Judge Child
35: Mega-Rackets ?
37: City of the Damned
38: Oz
39: Necropolis
40: Judgement Day
41: Inferno
42: Wilderlands
43: The Pit
44: Doomsday
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 15 May, 2015, 05:07:58 pm
44: Doomsday

In the first or second thrillcast Cyber-Matt mentioned the Doomsday books (plural) - and when you start adding in all the Bad Frendz/Worst of Frendz/Scorpion Dance stuff that makes a lot of sense. Tour of Duty and Day of Chaos will presumably also get two books apiece.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 15 May, 2015, 06:32:36 pm
Seems likely. They'll probably be separated as Issues but sit next to each other in Part order.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skank on 15 May, 2015, 10:08:56 pm
I asked on the Mega Collection FB page a while back weather or not if The Black Widow would be released and apparently its going to be put out with Vol. 74 so i can only assume it means it'll come with either the other two Nosferatu stories or some Heavy Metal Dredd.

More recently i asked if Cal-Hab Justice would be released and whilst they said it would, i got no exact book number.

Also im not sure but didn't they say that the Inspectere would be collected?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 16 May, 2015, 12:55:02 am
I must admit that the Heavy Mob wasn't my favourite books.  I haven't reread the Cursed Earth as I had read it not that long ago, but its good to have.

Devlin Waugh....I'm not really sure how to take this guy.  The stories, and indeed the character is interesting but some of the artwork is a bit patchy.  I'm not sure how to describe it, it's as if there was a certain style at some times.  For example, the artwork in the Star Wars:Dark Empire book was for me a style I wasn't keen on.  It might have just been a style of the time.  I prefer some artwork styles over others.  It won't dissuade me from continuing my subscription though.  So far I've only had a few books with stories I've read.  Cursed Earth, Apocalypse War/Block Mania, the Shamballa story in Shamballa and Father Earth in Heavy Mob.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 16 May, 2015, 09:29:53 am
Day of Chaos will presumably also get two books apiece.

Would dearly love to see the DoC collected into a single volume.
And with the Michael Carroll 'Downtime' episode re-instated.

In terms of page count, its the longest Dredd epic, but if Block Mania/Apocalypse War can fit into a single release...



Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Judge Nutmeg on 16 May, 2015, 09:45:21 am
sleeze and rider going to appear in one volume so possible even Harke and Burr could make an appearence. obviously mean machine, Judge Death, missionairy man, pj maybe will get their own volumes. I'd like to see fatties ,Otto Sump, Walter the wobot, Mrs Gunderson get their own books
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skank on 16 May, 2015, 10:38:02 am
The wikipedia page says Judge Child is coming out after Shimura.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 16 May, 2015, 10:43:23 am
If Judge Child is 163 pages (thanks Barney) what else could be packaged up with this issue?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skank on 16 May, 2015, 10:45:20 am
If Judge Child is 163 pages (thanks Barney) what else could be packaged up with this issue?

Maybe the first Fink story?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 16 May, 2015, 12:13:30 pm
If Judge Child is 163 pages (thanks Barney) what else could be packaged up with this issue?

To complete the tale, City of the Damned (93 pages) and not forgetting 'In the year 2120' (24 pages) from prog 1077.

That would be about 280 pages in total. Too much of a stretch for one book?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 16 May, 2015, 01:39:11 pm
If Judge Child is 163 pages (thanks Barney) what else could be packaged up with this issue?

To complete the tale, City of the Damned (93 pages) and not forgetting 'In the year 2120' (24 pages) from prog 1077.

That would be about 280 pages in total. Too much of a stretch for one book?

I'd have thought the Zombie Dredd tale would have been packaged with COTD.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 16 May, 2015, 02:30:57 pm
I think I asked about darkside but there were no plans to reprint it
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 16 May, 2015, 05:29:20 pm
and yet they put out the Heavy Mob.  Shame. 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 16 May, 2015, 05:48:51 pm
Darkside's due for a reprint fairly soon in any case - Case Files 26, no?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 16 May, 2015, 07:40:01 pm
Isn't destinys angels part of the judge child cycle as well?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 16 May, 2015, 07:51:14 pm
Isn't destinys angels part of the judge child cycle as well?

IIRC it was the follow up to Judge Child with Chrysler setting Fink and Mean on Dredd.  Ezquerra on art duties.  One of the post Apocalypse War stories.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 17 May, 2015, 10:09:37 pm
Day of Chaos will presumably also get two books apiece.

Would dearly love to see the DoC collected into a single volume.
And with the Michael Carroll 'Downtime' episode re-instated.

In terms of page count, its the longest Dredd epic, but if Block Mania/Apocalypse War can fit into a single release...


 . . . You already know it's going to be in 2 books!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 17 May, 2015, 10:10:41 pm
I hope they print all the Blood of Satanus stories in one book - I'll buy that one!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 18 May, 2015, 12:12:12 am
Now I wasn't gonna get any of these, a complete collection of ALL the Koburn stories however....
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skank on 18 May, 2015, 12:37:24 am
I hope they print all the Blood of Satanus stories in one book - I'll buy that one!
Question, do most people hate BOS III, because i really liked that story but i never see it mentioned anyware other than one or two negative reviews.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 18 May, 2015, 11:13:32 am
I hope they print all the Blood of Satanus stories in one book - I'll buy that one!
Question, do most people hate BOS III, because i really liked that story but i never see it mentioned anyware other than one or two negative reviews.

It certainly divided people. It was written by Pat Mills (whose writing divides fans) and drawn by John Hicklenton (whose art really divides fans) so not unexpectedly it has its hatas. I love it, and I would love to see a better print of the art - apparently it is huge and the original printing did not do the linework justice.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 18 May, 2015, 11:34:40 am
Day of Chaos will presumably also get two books apiece.

Would dearly love to see the DoC collected into a single volume.
And with the Michael Carroll 'Downtime' episode re-instated.

In terms of page count, its the longest Dredd epic, but if Block Mania/Apocalypse War can fit into a single release...


 . . . You already know it's going to be in 2 books!


Do I?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 18 May, 2015, 12:32:06 pm
Day of Chaos will presumably also get two books apiece.

Would dearly love to see the DoC collected into a single volume.
And with the Michael Carroll 'Downtime' episode re-instated.

In terms of page count, its the longest Dredd epic, but if Block Mania/Apocalypse War can fit into a single release...


 . . . You already know it's going to be in 2 books!


Do I?


Remember . . . . the discussion about the covers? In the pub??
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 18 May, 2015, 12:38:14 pm
With this collection is there any link between the spine image and the contents? Devlin seems to line up but not Anderson. I'm guessing we'd need a very thin Fatty image for this plan to work.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 18 May, 2015, 05:50:17 pm
I think that it is mere coincidence with Devlin Waugh lining up. But we'll see...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 21 May, 2015, 09:19:07 pm
I read in your blog about the next one. I find it kinda odd they are starting with the second story rather than the first
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skank on 21 May, 2015, 10:44:46 pm
I read in your blog about the next one. I find it kinda odd they are starting with the second story rather than the first

Im guessing this is so they can put Our man in Hondo out along with the first Shimura stuff to begin the Hondo City stuff.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Super Mario on 22 May, 2015, 10:12:00 am
Swimming in Blood has a weird ending. The big showdown gets interrupted then it just stops.

Love the character though. The meeting with Dredd was hysterical.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Third Estate Ned on 22 May, 2015, 11:36:39 am
Love the character though. The meeting with Dredd was hysterical.

Ah, I'm glad you said that. I knew I had once read a Devlin Waugh story where he meets Dredd and I wasn't sure whether it would be in this collection. I look forward to seeing it again, if it's the one where he has trouble at customs.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Super Mario on 22 May, 2015, 04:35:10 pm
That's the one!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 22 May, 2015, 09:59:27 pm
Day of Chaos will presumably also get two books apiece.

Would dearly love to see the DoC collected into a single volume.
And with the Michael Carroll 'Downtime' episode re-instated.

In terms of page count, its the longest Dredd epic, but if Block Mania/Apocalypse War can fit into a single release...


 . . . You already know it's going to be in 2 books!


Do I?


Remember . . . . the discussion about the covers? In the pub??

Yes, I remember that. Didn't realise it was for two books, though.
Hope that means it's not a straight reprinting of the existing trades. Keen to read the Dead Zone tale from the Meg. Be nice to have that included.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 23 May, 2015, 03:58:42 am
I read in your blog about the next one. I find it kinda odd they are starting with the second story rather than the first

Im guessing this is so they can put Our man in Hondo out along with the first Shimura stuff to begin the Hondo City stuff.

Yes it was an interesting choice...

I'm not sure how well Our Man From Hondo will sit with the Shimura stuff. But yes it could be in there.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skank on 23 May, 2015, 04:51:21 pm
I read in your blog about the next one. I find it kinda odd they are starting with the second story rather than the first

Im guessing this is so they can put Our man in Hondo out along with the first Shimura stuff to begin the Hondo City stuff.

Yes it was an interesting choice...

I'm not sure how well Our Man From Hondo will sit with the Shimura stuff. But yes it could be in there.

I seem to remember Sadu getting a brief mention at some point in the first story so it may make some continuity sense at least. 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: SuperSurfer on 25 May, 2015, 11:13:07 pm
Massive backlog of graphic novels and a few floppies to catch up on. Today I finished reading Shamballa. Really blown away by it. For me, the stories in this volume get progressively better and better. Amazed by the twists and turns in R*volution. I actually forgot or didn't realise just how good an artist Ranson is. Not a case of which is the best, but so far I enjoyed this book in the series the most.

I am seeing the Mega Collection less and less in newsagents. I think the usual routine is that these kinds of collections disappear from the shelves of the big newsagent chains. If that is the case and if comics shops don't stock it, I will certainly subscribe.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skank on 27 May, 2015, 02:15:03 pm
I asked on the facebook page and apparently the next book is Day of Chaos: Fourth Faction
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 27 May, 2015, 04:59:35 pm
That's great news! Wonder what else will be in to make up the page count?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 27 May, 2015, 05:25:51 pm
I asked on the facebook page and apparently the next book is Day of Chaos: Fourth Faction

Nice one! Looking forward to seeing the DoC come out in the Mega collection. If it's 2 books, and that would seem to be the case, then I guess there wouldn't be a long gap before they released the 2nd?  So, Endgame to follow directly after Fourth Faction?

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skank on 27 May, 2015, 05:28:02 pm
I imagine its just gonna be the first half of Day of Chaos, starting with Nadia and probably ending sometime around the point P.J Maybe comes into play.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 27 May, 2015, 08:47:53 pm
Picked up Shimura today - very nice! No idea why they did not start with book 1 though
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Magnetica on 27 May, 2015, 10:34:05 pm
I am seeing the Mega Collection less and less in newsagents. I think the usual routine is that these kinds of collections disappear from the shelves of the big newsagent chains. If that is the case and if comics shops don't stock it, I will certainly subscribe.

Yes I have noticed that too. I was wondering how well it is selling generally - hopefully well enough to continue to the end?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 28 May, 2015, 03:08:09 am
Apparently its gonna be in a hondo city justice collection down the line
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 28 May, 2015, 12:41:27 pm
I liked Shimura but it's very heavy going in places. When the Simon Fraser art kicks in the book finds a new gear. I've always loved Duke Mighten's work - especially his Accident Man from the Toxic days. I wish he'd found a strip more suited to his style - I think his work was always distinctive & very imaginative. I really feel he has the individuality of a Kevin O'Neill - love his gaming designs now. Colin MacNeil's b&w stuff is stunning but I often found bits of the story confusing. I think the series would benefit from more Dredd of at least Dredd every other issue.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Boo on 28 May, 2015, 07:57:04 pm
Here's my review: http://www.sidekickcast.com/judge-dredd-mega-collection-10-shimura/

TLDR as a relative noob and one who hasn't come across any Shimura stories before, this one was a bit of a struggle for me...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 28 May, 2015, 09:25:11 pm
"For me, this is the most disappointing entry in the Judge Dredd Mega Collection so far, which is perhaps a mark of how high the bar 2000AD has set itself is."

But!! The Heavy Mob!!


I thought Shimura was confusing, but I think that Robbie Morrison's first few stories are rather confusing. He becomes excellent later.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Boo on 28 May, 2015, 09:45:41 pm
"For me, this is the most disappointing entry in the Judge Dredd Mega Collection so far, which is perhaps a mark of how high the bar 2000AD has set itself is."

But!! The Heavy Mob!!

Ha! Yeah, point taken - I said for me Shimura's the most disappointing as I didn't have to review The Heavy Mob, me and Kudos have taken turns reviewing the Mega Collection and he got that one ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Super Mario on 29 May, 2015, 09:33:17 am
Outcast was insanely dense. It worked fine for me as an introduction story though, it contained all the information needed.

I actually quite liked it, but it was tough going. I had to re-read the last section just to work out if the chief judge had been killed or not.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: bartosznowicki on 29 May, 2015, 12:05:49 pm
Hi Guys,

I've ordered subscription almost a month ago, but still didn't received first issue, so I have a question about 'the Cursed Earth' published in the collection.

Does it include the missing thrills from Complete Case Files vol. 1? Or not?

Does anybody know what was the copyright problem that caused their lack at the first place?

Cheers

B
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 29 May, 2015, 12:09:15 pm

http://britishcomics.wikia.com/wiki/The_Cursed_Earth
Basically use of copyright characters
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: bartosznowicki on 29 May, 2015, 12:31:51 pm
Thanks Robert.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 29 May, 2015, 01:04:37 pm
...as a relative noob and one who hasn't come across any Shimura stories before, this one was a bit of a struggle for me...

I don't think that's a sympton of your being a newbie as much as a sympton of Shimura!

I first encountered the character in the DC/Rebellion trade - it was basically all these stories, minus the last few (which hadn't yet been written) but included Shimura's first story. And trust me, that first story doesn't make nearly as much difference as you'd assume it might. I still felt pretty lost. Too many of his stories read as though they've got pages missing!

I much prefer Robbie's Inaba stories - the storytelling's a lot clearer and she's a much more interesting character.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 29 May, 2015, 01:10:56 pm
Trudging through the Case Files, a lot of Megazine stuff at the time had a weird kind of assumptive storytelling going on. You got the feeling the writer knew in their head what the story was, but it never fully translated to the page. Shimura's an odd one at this stage of the collection, and especially if it's not starting at the beginning. I think this will be a great collection when complete, but do wonder with some of what we've already seen if it should have stuck with a more focussed 60-book collection than expanding out to 80.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 29 May, 2015, 01:34:11 pm
Trudging through the Case Files, a lot of Megazine stuff at the time had a weird kind of assumptive storytelling going on. You got the feeling the writer knew in their head what the story was, but it never fully translated to the page.

Asusmptive storytelling is a good way of putting it. It's as though they're trying so hard to eschew the style of 'older', unfashionable comics (it being the 1990s and the era of the grim n' gritty graphic novel) that they've thrown the baby out with the bathwater. Very few thought bubbles, captions, narrative boxes - wherever possible they're trying to show, rather than tell, but combine that with some, er, less than clear artwork and it makes for a really confusing reading expierience.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 May, 2015, 01:37:23 pm
Trudging through the Case Files, a lot of Megazine stuff at the time had a weird kind of assumptive storytelling going on. You got the feeling the writer knew in their head what the story was, but it never fully translated to the page.

I'll be honest: whilst I'm generally appreciative of David Bishop's tenure as editor on the Meg, he could over-prune scripts he felt were too wordy. (Remember that this was an age when you never saw your script again until your comps arrived.) I can offer one specific example:

In the second Inspectre story, where we introduce the location for the rest of the series as being the reconstruction site of East-Meg One, there's a bloody great column going up into the sky. What is it? Part of the construction? A chimney? Who knows — it's never explained. And there it is, in every exterior shot for the next eight episodes.

It's a space elevator. The new city is being constructed in modular sections in orbit and will be lowered into place down the space elevator. We explained all that in dialogue over that opening shot, which is a horizontal half page specifically requested in the script to accommodate the dialogue. Charlie Gillespie obligingly drew us a nice, expansive shot and David cut the entire explanation. Was it important to the story?* No, but we'd have asked for the scripted the location to look different if we'd known David was going to nix the exposition.

As it is, it's just this baffling, huge, column/pillar thing.

Cheers

Jim

*It would have been very relevant to the main story arc of the second series, though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 29 May, 2015, 03:10:21 pm
Trudging through the Case Files, a lot of Megazine stuff at the time had a weird kind of assumptive storytelling going on. You got the feeling the writer knew in their head what the story was, but it never fully translated to the page.

I'll be honest: whilst I'm generally appreciative of David Bishop's tenure as editor on the Meg, he could over-prune scripts he felt were too wordy. (Remember that this was an age when you never saw your script again until your comps arrived.) I can offer one specific example:

In the second Inspectre story, where we introduce the location for the rest of the series as being the reconstruction site of East-Meg One, there's a bloody great column going up into the sky. What is it? Part of the construction? A chimney? Who knows — it's never explained. And there it is, in every exterior shot for the next eight episodes.

It's a space elevator. The new city is being constructed in modular sections in orbit and will be lowered into place down the space elevator. We explained all that in dialogue over that opening shot, which is a horizontal half page specifically requested in the script to accommodate the dialogue. Charlie Gillespie obligingly drew us a nice, expansive shot and David cut the entire explanation. Was it important to the story?* No, but we'd have asked for the scripted the location to look different if we'd known David was going to nix the exposition.

As it is, it's just this baffling, huge, column/pillar thing.

Cheers

Jim

*It would have been very relevant to the main story arc of the second series, though.

Maybe he thought 'why would you lift raw materials and components into space just to construct and then lower them down again'
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 29 May, 2015, 03:15:33 pm
Maybe he thought 'why would you lift raw materials and components into space just to construct and then lower them down again'

They were being constructed in space, largely with offworld/asteroid belt mined materials that were being delivered to Earth anyway. The solution was —ostensibly— easier than transporting an entire city's worth of materials from East Meg Two to the site of East Meg One across an irradiated wasteland.

Also: it was in the story from the proposal stage. If David didn't like it, he had plenty of opportunity to nix before the frickin' pages were painted.

My point wasn't to protest about the unfairness of this specific decision, but to offer one illustration of how "assumptive storytelling" might not be the result of the authors' intent.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 29 May, 2015, 03:17:12 pm
Wow - that is crazy.

I never knew editors did that.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bolt-01 on 29 May, 2015, 04:51:19 pm
Heh, you wouldn't 'believe' some of the stomm we do here at Zarjaz...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 29 May, 2015, 05:31:14 pm
I thought you were looking a bit green lately...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fluffy Clemmy on 31 May, 2015, 09:23:46 pm
As suspected the Mega Collection is starting to disappear from Newsagents. My local had a copy on top of their ice cream fridge (?!) every Wednesday. Went to pick up Shimura this week no were to be seen
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 01 June, 2015, 04:06:43 pm
Place a standing order would be my advice, that's what I had to do, when they started to become thin on the ground.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Bat King on 01 June, 2015, 05:31:28 pm
Yup. Standing orders become required on most part works. I so have one news agent in Leeds that often continues to get a couple of issues but as it is in the bus/coach station I wouldn't even rely on that.

I may cancel my sub & order it through OK comics so I know exactly when they will arrive. Yet despite getting them after they are in shops the service is good so I dunno...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fluffy Clemmy on 01 June, 2015, 06:33:29 pm
May decide to sub. How are people finding Hachette? I subbed to the Marvel GN Collection. They were ok until I cancelled my sub then they were a nightmare to deal with.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 01 June, 2015, 06:50:04 pm
I found them ok - I had 2 books replaced quickly & cancelled my sub within a couple of days. I found email worked pretty well. I only cancelled because I prefer buying the books individually. I'll re-sub if WHSmiths stops getting the MegaCollection in. I sold all the dented books on eBay so it worked out well
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 01 June, 2015, 07:07:29 pm
any news on what is following from Shimura?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 01 June, 2015, 07:09:24 pm
Oops, sorry, just found it - Fourth Faction.  Nice.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 01 June, 2015, 08:32:57 pm
It seems quite bonkers to jump into very modern dredd - thought we'd get some judge death or chopper first
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 01 June, 2015, 09:07:33 pm
I actually thought judge child was next it was a surprise for it to be doc so soon
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 June, 2015, 03:04:20 pm
The next four books will be....

10. 'Shimura'
11. 'Day of Chaos: The Fourth Faction'
12. 'Democracy Now!'
13. 'Hondo-City Justice'
 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Timothy on 02 June, 2015, 04:36:52 pm
Where has the Judge Child Quest slipped to?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 02 June, 2015, 04:59:11 pm
Maybe b&w stuff puts off the average punter?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 02 June, 2015, 06:20:25 pm
I wonder what stories Democracy now will include. Pretty sure Better the devil you know and Twillight's last gleaming will find it's way into the collection. Hopefully also Letter from a democrat and Revolution. But it'd still be quite short on pages even then?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skank on 02 June, 2015, 06:54:19 pm
Where has the Judge Child Quest slipped to?

i imagine they're holding it back, they already put out two of the early epics, so they probably want to space the others out a bit.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 02 June, 2015, 08:02:47 pm
May decide to sub. How are people finding Hachette? I subbed to the Marvel GN Collection. They were ok until I cancelled my sub then they were a nightmare to deal with.
For this series, I've found some of the packaging pretty poor (notably those books sent with free gifts), but Hachette has replaced those issues that I deemed in unacceptable condition, with said replacements showing up within a week. My preferred method of contact has been Facebook. I think the longest it's taken to get a reply from them is under two days, which I'm more than happy with.

Naturally, my last two books showed up in perfect condition, and then I dropped them on the floor, thereby dinging one of them. Some kind of weird book karma? I dunno. (And, no, I didn't ask for a replacement for those!)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 02 June, 2015, 08:09:25 pm
Maybe b&w stuff puts off the average punter?

Could also be that the colour stuff has generally been of a better standard than the B&W stuff.  Cursed Earth wasn't as bad as some of those put out so far but the Father Earth stuff was shocking.  Perhaps the source material is easier to work with for the more recent stuff?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 02 June, 2015, 10:44:53 pm
I'm loving these and a full collection going to be incredible.Reading through The heavy mob last night I was shocked at Clint langleys art for holocaust squad and that Robbie Morrison the creator of Nikolai Dante and writer of the incredible Enceladus was responsible for Brit-brute.its definitely the weakest book so far but one from ten is an incredible hit rate.Most looking forward to OZ and Judgement day.... Yes that's judgement day I loved it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 02 June, 2015, 10:50:06 pm
I'm loving these and a full collection going to be incredible.Reading through The heavy mob last night I was shocked at Clint langleys art for holocaust squad and that Robbie Morrison the creator of Nikolai Dante and writer of the incredible Enceladus was responsible for Brit-brute.its definitely the weakest book so far but one from ten is an incredible hit rate.Most looking forward to OZ and Judgement day.... Yes that's judgement day I loved it.

To find out some of the reason why Holocaust was not Clint's best work you will need to listen to the upcoming Inky Fingers interview with Clint Langley - starting next month ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 03 June, 2015, 04:27:08 pm
The next four books will be....

10. 'Shimura'
11. 'Day of Chaos: The Fourth Faction'
12. 'Democracy Now!'
13. 'Hondo-City Justice'
 


I'd have thought that the 2nd DoC book would have been out sooner, but a 7 week wait - at the earliest, for folks to see the conclusion?

Looking forward to the Democracy Now! Book, though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 03 June, 2015, 04:35:29 pm
I wonder if the cover images shown are final? Seems odd not to use Frank Quitely on Hondo. I much prefer the covers with a stylised main image. I'm guessing some colour art really doesn't lend itself to this treatment. A strong line-up of books - this series is looking good!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Albion on 03 June, 2015, 07:32:05 pm
I'd have thought that the 2nd DoC book would have been out sooner, but a 7 week wait - at the earliest, for folks to see the conclusion?

They did the same with the two part Marvel books. There was a long wait between them.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 03 June, 2015, 07:52:33 pm
The next four books will be....

10. 'Shimura'
11. 'Day of Chaos: The Fourth Faction'
12. 'Democracy Now!'
13. 'Hondo-City Justice'
 


I'd have thought that the 2nd DoC book would have been out sooner, but a 7 week wait - at the earliest, for folks to see the conclusion?


I'm sure you will survive - I can tell you what happens if you like?  :P
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Timothy on 03 June, 2015, 10:37:27 pm
It'll be more than 7 weeks. Apparently Endgame will be issue 18!!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 03 June, 2015, 10:42:04 pm
Yes, I was just going to post that - saw it stated over on the Mega Collection Facebook page.
Dang, that's some wait..
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 03 June, 2015, 11:16:48 pm
I can tell you what happens if you like?  :P

Some one has already spoiled it for me,  :(

So, the very last page is drawn by Carlos, and it shows Dredd throwing his helmet off in disgust, revealing his face for the very first time, as he screams "Damn you, Kazan stand-in! Damn you to hell!"

With 'To be continued in... DARK JUSTICE!' at the very bottom.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 04 June, 2015, 09:20:57 am
Anyone else on here a premium subscriber to this?  I've just noticed that my account has been updated and the first premium poster will be sent with my next delivery.  Unfortunately, it looks like they're expecting to charge me 5 quid for it, which makes no sense as the premium subscription is already £1 more per issue to pay for this.  Anyone else noticed this?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 04 June, 2015, 10:32:59 am
I can tell you what happens if you like?  :P

Some one has already spoiled it for me,  :(

So, the very last page is drawn by Carlos, and it shows Dredd throwing his helmet off in disgust, revealing his face for the very first time, as he screams "Damn you, Kazan stand-in! Damn you to hell!"

With 'To be continued in... DARK JUSTICE!' at the very bottom.

Spoilers man! Spoilers!!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 04 June, 2015, 11:00:02 am
Anyone else on here a premium subscriber to this?  I've just noticed that my account has been updated and the first premium poster will be sent with my next delivery.  Unfortunately, it looks like they're expecting to charge me 5 quid for it, which makes no sense as the premium subscription is already £1 more per issue to pay for this.  Anyone else noticed this?

What issue number did you start your subscription at? I believe that if you didn't start from issue 1 you have to pay the extra £1 for each issue that you hadn't bought through the subscription...I'm sure that's what it says in the smallprint...

Edit: From the terms and conditions on the megacollection site:

Premium subscriptions:
•There are 6 limited edition prints to collect. Each print is 10" x 8" in size and comes with a mount.
•If you opt for a premium subscription, you will receive your first limited edition print with issue 10, after which you will receive a print every 14 issues.
If you start your premium subscription in the middle of a run of 14 issues, you can receive the print for this run by making up the difference in price of those issues for which you only paid a standard subscription amount.
•Standard subscriptions can be cancelled at any time.
•A premium subscription can be cancelled at any time and you will receive a refund of £1 per issue (for issues which you have paid for) past the issue which was dispatched with the last premium subscription gift.
•For full terms and conditions click here.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 04 June, 2015, 11:03:48 am
I started with issue 1 although they didn't actually sort out my premium subscription until issue 6, so what you say makes sense.  I must have missed that bit in the smallprint!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 04 June, 2015, 11:08:42 am
On the up side, if you ever cancel your premium subscription then you get a refund of £1 per issue since the last print was dispatched...I wonder how that will work when they ineveitbly extend ther series to 120 issues, more prints or the premium £1 stops...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 04 June, 2015, 11:28:54 am
Mind you I got the first 4 issues for free (as I signed up during the trial run) so really they should only be charging me £1 not £5.  Can I be bothered to wrestle with their frankly terrible customer services department to point that out?  I think I might just save myself the aggro and suck it up.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 04 June, 2015, 02:55:08 pm
I've found their Facebook lot very good. Mind you, weren't the costs of the trial run the same as the new ones? If so, you under the terms would effectively 'owe' the same amount anyway, right?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 04 June, 2015, 03:54:21 pm
Customer service has been fab
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 04 June, 2015, 04:48:18 pm
Anyone else on here a premium subscriber to this?  I've just noticed that my account has been updated and the first premium poster will be sent with my next delivery.  Unfortunately, it looks like they're expecting to charge me 5 quid for it, which makes no sense as the premium subscription is already £1 more per issue to pay for this.  Anyone else noticed this?

I've just checked mine.  It is listed as £0.00.  I've subscribed since issue 1 so have paid up front.  Looks like your late start point is the reason so the next one should already be covered.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 08 June, 2015, 11:00:25 pm
I finally finished Shimura.  I've not been reading as much lately, plus I've had a massive Mass Effect fan fic that was well written to finish as well as the two Mass Effect Library editions.

Shimura was......odd.  The character himself seems fairly well written, but the art style seems mixed, depending on the particular story.  Like someone else said, it sometimes feels as if half the story has been cut and you're coming into it in the middle.  Not my favourite volume so far, but I probably will reread at some point as I've read books, not enjoyed them and it's just been the mood I'm in at that time.

Since we're getting stories in the Dredd universe, but with no, or little Dredd present (Shimura and Devlin Waugh being the prime examples), does this mean we'll maybe get Helltreckers as a book or part of a book?  I must admit to being one of the few that seemed to like that story but it has dated somewhat.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Timothy on 10 June, 2015, 02:47:31 pm
Interesting split of the Day of Chaos books. Hot Night in 95 has been dropped, and The Assassination List from part 2 added. Will this leave space for a couple of aftermath stories in part 2. I can't say that Hot Night is a huge loss. It's a nice enough story but not essential to the bigger story.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 10 June, 2015, 08:43:08 pm
Interesting split of the Day of Chaos books. Hot Night in 95 has been dropped, and The Assassination List from part 2 added. Will this leave space for a couple of aftermath stories in part 2. I can't say that Hot Night is a huge loss. It's a nice enough story but not essential to the bigger story.

Looking forward to picking this up tomorrow. The DoC, is like the Cursed Earth, or the Apocalypse War for me. I imagine I'll end up buying it every time it get's released..
 
And kinda glad that it's not a straight reprinting of the fairly recent trades. Is the Skinning Room still present?
TBH, I'd not miss either (not that there's owt wrong with those two tales. Far from it), but nice to have something different. I suspect Mr Carroll's 'Downtime' episode hasn't been included this time round?
So yes, be interesting to see how they fill out book 2...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 10 June, 2015, 08:58:48 pm
This book is stunning - great Ben Willsher endpapers & a striking cover. I'm not knowledgeable about previous reprints of this but the stories run like so... The Skinning Room, The Further Dastardly Deeds..., Nadia,  The Fourth Faction,  Elusive, The Assassination List & 4 page Ben Willsher interview & Matt Smith intro. This is s fabulous book at a bargain price. A mild gripe is that many new readers won't know PJ Maybe but it's a great sequel of sorts to the ApocalypseWar. It's good to get some stellar Dredd after a couple of more distant issues.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 10 June, 2015, 09:07:11 pm
Yeah, the Skinning Room story was included in the first DoC trade. Shame 'Downtime' isn't included. I suspect the Case files will feature it, as part of the DoC, when that one rolls around..
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 10 June, 2015, 09:13:50 pm
I'm looking forward to this one. Mine were supposedly dispatched on June 3, so here soon, with a little luck.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 10 June, 2015, 09:18:18 pm
Has the packaging improved from Hachette & have any prints been sent?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 10 June, 2015, 09:34:26 pm
Maybe Downtime will be saved for a different volume about the Academy? Seems odd otherwise
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 10 June, 2015, 09:40:21 pm
A mild gripe is that many new readers won't know PJ Maybe but it's a great sequel of sorts to the Apocalypse War.

Aye, I can understand their wanting to get this stellar story out as soon as possible (if nothing else it's a great advert for the modern prog for those lapsed readers that may have been tempted to pick up the Mega Collection), but it seems a bit of mis-step not to have released a PJ book first.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 10 June, 2015, 09:48:46 pm
It'd be even stranger if we don't get any Judge Death before book 2 of Chaos turns up! Much as I've enjoyed Devlin & Shimura this stuff is why I signed up for the collection. Oddly this week's prog stood out as one of the best I'd ever read - Absalom, a strong Dredd & a new Thrill plus great art on Slaine. I really hope the prog sales are up. I was worried that the Purchase of these hachette books would make me ignore the prog but I find myself buying it plus the Meg. Tharg's powers are strong
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zenith 666 on 11 June, 2015, 01:35:27 am
The smell of print from my issue is glorious.smells like I'm 9 again and I'm making trip to my local newsagent to buy my prog and it's fresh off the press.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fluffy Clemmy on 11 June, 2015, 08:32:59 am
Mine were despatched on the 3rd June too. Can anyway advise how long delivery usually is from posting?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 11 June, 2015, 08:35:49 am
Mine were despatched on the 3rd June too. Can anyway advise how long delivery usually is from posting?

I've found it's usually about a week to 9 days.  If you've not had them by early next week it's probably worth getting in touch with them.  Incidentally, I'm not sure if the date they appear on the Hachette site is necessarily the same as when they're dispatched.  I get the impression they usually send them out after this date.  (My account says 3rd June too btw).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 11 June, 2015, 10:26:50 am
Mine were despatched on the 3rd June too. Can anyway advise how long delivery usually is from posting?

I've found it's usually about a week to 9 days.  If you've not had them by early next week it's probably worth getting in touch with them.  Incidentally, I'm not sure if the date they appear on the Hachette site is necessarily the same as when they're dispatched.  I get the impression they usually send them out after this date.  (My account says 3rd June too btw).

I'll second this, I'm expecting mine by the weekend as they often seem to turn up on a Saturday, that's the latest I'd expect.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Timothy on 11 June, 2015, 12:20:11 pm
Interesting split of the Day of Chaos books. Hot Night in 95 has been dropped, and The Assassination List from part 2 added. Will this leave space for a couple of aftermath stories in part 2. I can't say that Hot Night is a huge loss. It's a nice enough story but not essential to the bigger story.

Looking forward to picking this up tomorrow. The DoC, is like the Cursed Earth, or the Apocalypse War for me. I imagine I'll end up buying it every time it get's released..
 
And kinda glad that it's not a straight reprinting of the fairly recent trades. Is the Skinning Room still present?
TBH, I'd not miss either (not that there's owt wrong with those two tales. Far from it), but nice to have something different. I suspect Mr Carroll's 'Downtime' episode hasn't been included this time round?
So yes, be interesting to see how they fill out book 2...

Although the Skinning Room might not be essential to the story I still love it, both for Wilsher's art and for the superb interview with the sniper judge. He's such a great character. Forgive my ignorance, but has he appeared in any other stories?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 11 June, 2015, 02:21:08 pm
Although the Skinning Room might not be essential to the story I still love it, both for Wilsher's art and for the superb interview with the sniper judge. He's such a great character. Forgive my ignorance, but has he appeared in any other stories?

I think Alec Worley picked up that plot thread in Megaine 342 (with Willsher again).

The Skinning Room and Hot Night in 95 help bridge the gap between Tour of Duty and DoC for anyone reading Dredd primarily through the trades, what wth Sinfield's fate, Dredd on the council, Hershey's return to the city and a brief chance to see the Francisco administration in action before it all went tits up!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 11 June, 2015, 05:50:11 pm
Mine were despatched on the 3rd June too. Can anyway advise how long delivery usually is from posting?

I've found it's usually about a week to 9 days.  If you've not had them by early next week it's probably worth getting in touch with them.  Incidentally, I'm not sure if the date they appear on the Hachette site is necessarily the same as when they're dispatched.  I get the impression they usually send them out after this date.  (My account says 3rd June too btw).

Ditto but mine normally turn up mid week so I reckon next Tuesday / wednesday.  ho hum!

I'll second this, I'm expecting mine by the weekend as they often seem to turn up on a Saturday, that's the latest I'd expect.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Magnetica on 11 June, 2015, 07:35:28 pm
Shame 'Downtime' isn't included.

Remind me - what was Downtime about?

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 11 June, 2015, 07:40:58 pm
The Skinning Room and Hot Night in 95 help bridge the gap between Tour of Duty and DoC for anyone reading Dredd primarily through the trades, what with Sinfield's fate, Dredd on the council, Hershey's return to the city and a brief chance to see the Francisco administration in action before it all went tits up!

^ This is all true. I sometimes forget that I was once a trade waiter, and found these 'bridging' stories helpful.
From a purely selfish view point, and as I have these stories already, I could afford to miss them on this release. Though they are both grand tales.

But a cracking release is this, and I picked it up - and the prog - on the way to work this morning.
And a quality cover. Taken from the original art, as the background is different from when it was a cover for the Prog.

I believe a helpful forumite supplied the scan that was used for this.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 11 June, 2015, 07:59:01 pm
Shame 'Downtime' isn't included.

Remind me - what was Downtime about?


The basic gist of it, is that Dredd - whilst on light duties after the Nadia attack, goes to the Academy of Law to give a talk to those families looking to put their children into the Judge system.
Dredd ends up arresting some of the parents, and scaring the living daylights out of most of the children.

A pretty good one-off really.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Magnetica on 11 June, 2015, 08:10:02 pm
Thanks.

Don't think that is in the 4th Faction TPB either.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 11 June, 2015, 09:26:03 pm
Perhaps Hotnight of 95 will be included in Tour of duty, similarly how The Spirit of Christmas founds it's way into the end of Origins.

Btw. How many pages are Assassination list?  I'm hoping it made it into 4th F in order to fit Dark Justice into JD DoC: Endgame. Would make for a nice fit. Finishing up on Logan's arm, PJ Maybe and the appearance of the dark J:s.

Also. Wouldn't surprise me if Tea for two will show up in the Brothers of the blood book.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 11 June, 2015, 10:31:49 pm
Think dark justice was ruled out of mega collection! Assassination list has 38 pages
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 12 June, 2015, 08:49:42 am
Mine were despatched on the 3rd June too. Can anyway advise how long delivery usually is from posting?

I've found it's usually about a week to 9 days.  If you've not had them by early next week it's probably worth getting in touch with them.  Incidentally, I'm not sure if the date they appear on the Hachette site is necessarily the same as when they're dispatched.  I get the impression they usually send them out after this date.  (My account says 3rd June too btw).

I'll second this, I'm expecting mine by the weekend as they often seem to turn up on a Saturday, that's the latest I'd expect.

According to my account details at Hachette mine were sent on the 3rd of June and I have received them this morning.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Super Mario on 12 June, 2015, 11:57:47 am
Finished Shimura. A bit tough going due to some of the stories being hard to follow, but a good collection all round. I particularly liked the story with the freaky Dragon Lord guy.

That Dredd's a bit of a bigot eh?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fluffy Clemmy on 12 June, 2015, 12:33:45 pm
Mine were despatched on the 3rd June too. Can anyway advise how long delivery usually is from posting?

I've found it's usually about a week to 9 days.  If you've not had them by early next week it's probably worth getting in touch with them.  Incidentally, I'm not sure if the date they appear on the Hachette site is necessarily the same as when they're dispatched.  I get the impression they usually send them out after this date.  (My account says 3rd June too btw).

Thanks for letting me know  :)

I'll second this, I'm expecting mine by the weekend as they often seem to turn up on a Saturday, that's the latest I'd expect.

According to my account details at Hachette mine were sent on the 3rd of June and I have received them this morning.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 12 June, 2015, 01:20:22 pm
I've just received issues 10 and 11 as well.  Unfortunately, 11 was damaged so I've had to phone them and ask for a replacement.  Has anyone else had to do this?  If so, how quickly do they send out replacements?  The lady I spoke to said 14-28 days which seems a bit long.

Thanks
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 12 June, 2015, 01:26:49 pm
Yes a couple of times - usually a week.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 12 June, 2015, 02:12:33 pm
I've had two replacements so far. Both arrived 'same week' for me (i.e. I asked for something on Monday and it showed up before Friday). 14–28 days just gives them some leeway, I guess.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 12 June, 2015, 02:47:45 pm
Thanks both for the info.  I thought it sounded too long just to get another book sent out.  Incidentally, does the replacement show up on your hachette account details before they send it out?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ManParrish on 12 June, 2015, 10:26:27 pm
Anyone know the issues from 12 onwards? Really hoping from some more classic Dredd from the 80-90s, Judge Child, Angel Gang etc
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 12 June, 2015, 10:34:08 pm
Anyone know the issues from 12 onwards? Really hoping from some more classic Dredd from the 80-90s, Judge Child, Angel Gang etc

12 is Democracy Now, 13 Hondo-City Justice... and 19 Day of Chaos II.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 13 June, 2015, 10:58:13 am
Today is going to be a very pleasant day once all the work is out of the way.  Tooth, magazine, next two mega collection volumes and ...

First print.  I think like a lot of us I was a bit apprehensive about this but looking at the first one, I'm going to stick with it for the long haul.  Nicely packaged, border already in place for framing, ...  Only downside is the similarity with the Urban Warfare bookplate.

For me, this has to be the best gizzit of the collection.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: abelardsnazz on 13 June, 2015, 05:33:13 pm
Loving Day of Chaos, especially PJ Maybe. I've been a lapsed reader for 19 years so it's great to catch up on what I've missed. Hoping for a Dark Judges volume soon.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 15 June, 2015, 11:21:30 am
I got my 10 and 11 today, did anyone else notice the improved packaging? Thicker corrugated card this time, which is great (although it meand the packages don't fit through my letter box now :lol:). Looks like they are paying attention to the complaints of damaged books/torn packaging :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 15 June, 2015, 11:54:43 am
I got my 10 and 11 today, did anyone else notice the improved packaging?

Errr.....no - my copy of 11 was damaged.  Hopefully, this improvement is something they're going to put in place for all deliveries in future though rather than it just being the luck of the draw based on what they happen to have lying around.

The cynic in me wonders if they've just done the maths and decided it's cheaper to replace a certain number of books each month rather than using more expensive packaging for everyone.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 15 June, 2015, 12:15:14 pm
I noticed no change in packaging here. Both books were shrink-wrapped and placed in a thinnish card sleeve that was taped tight. As ever, the package on the way to be got bashed on a corner, leading to some corner crushing on one book, but not to the point I'll ask for a replacement. (I've had worse from Amazon and others.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mardroid on 15 June, 2015, 01:26:52 pm
The packaging was better in that it wrapped all the way around. Last time there was a gap, although it was taped over to be fair.

I've been pretty lucky with the contents though. I think there has been slight creasing to the corner near the spine but nothing I could be bothered returning.


Is this the kind of damage others are referring to, or something much more extensive?

I'm really enjoying Shimura.  I've read most of these stories before but I seem to have forgotten a lot of the stuff in them so it's almost like a fresh read. 

I totally get people's complaints concerning working out what's going on though.  It's particularly confusing in the first (and I think second) storie where you jump between Shimura and Inaba's perspectives within the same page sometimes. There's particularly a bit where one of the bad guys appears to be killed (originally I thought by Shimura, but then it appears to be an Inaba panel) and I can't quite work out how it happened.

I do enjoy the Japanese region of Dredd's world. I quite like the Hondo City strip starring Inaba as main character in the Megazine too, although I think they overdo the big monsters.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 15 June, 2015, 01:39:00 pm
I've been pretty lucky with the contents though. I think there has been slight creasing to the corner near the spine but nothing I could be bothered returning. Is this the kind of damage others are referring to, or something much more extensive?
Pretty much, yeah, but it depends on the level of crushing as to whether I'll put up with it. One book was smashed on the spine and two corners, and that got a replacement. One also had a gouge all the way down the back, due to being shipped with a badge in the box. Otherwise, the odd ding is to be expected with stuff that's gone through the post.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mardroid on 15 June, 2015, 01:46:12 pm
Pretty much, yeah, but it depends on the level of crushing as to whether I'll put up with it. One book was smashed on the spine and two corners, and that got a replacement. One also had a gouge all the way down the back, due to being shipped with a badge in the box.

Yeah that level of damage should not be put up with.

Arguably no level of damage should really be put up with... but for minor creasing I just can't be bothered, even though I understand they don't require you to return it. Which is VERY good of them, to be fair.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 15 June, 2015, 02:11:24 pm
I've never had a problem with Amazon as there over-sized packaging usually protects the corners. I reckon a third of the Hachette books have been damaged in the post. I'd insist on getting any dented books replaced just to encourage better packaging in future.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Timothy on 24 June, 2015, 07:52:44 am
Democracy Now has some interesting choices in it. Great that the very recent Mega City Confidential is included, but it would have been nice to see A Question of Judgement in there. Not strictly about democracy, but for me it's the start of Dredd's concerns about the system. And if I were being hyper critical there are some issues with text placement on the centre spreads being obscured by the fold. All in all though, another good book.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 24 June, 2015, 06:11:12 pm
Democracy Now has some interesting choices in it. Great that the very recent Mega City Confidential is included, but it would have been nice to see A Question of Judgement in there. Not strictly about democracy, but for me it's the start of Dredd's concerns about the system. And if I were being hyper critical there are some issues with text placement on the centre spreads being obscured by the fold. All in all though, another good book.

Can't wait to read Mega City Confidential again!

What more stories are in it?

Also, are the colour pages in Revolution in colour this time around?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Timothy on 24 June, 2015, 06:23:29 pm
Democracy Now has some interesting choices in it. Great that the very recent Mega City Confidential is included, but it would have been nice to see A Question of Judgement in there. Not strictly about democracy, but for me it's the start of Dredd's concerns about the system. And if I were being hyper critical there are some issues with text placement on the centre spreads being obscured by the fold. All in all though, another good book.

Can't wait to read Mega City Confidential again!

What more stories are in it?

Also, are the colour pages in Revolution in colour this time around?
There's Letter from a Democrat, Revolution (with colour spreads but with text issues), The Devil You Know, Twilight's Last Gleaming, Politics, Raider, Sabs, Direct Action and John Cassavetes is Dead (which is strangely placed at the end). And the cover image is a good one too.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 24 June, 2015, 06:51:48 pm
There's Letter from a Democrat, Revolution (with colour spreads but with text issues), The Devil You Know, Twilight's Last Gleaming, Politics, Raider, Sabs, Direct Action and John Cassavetes is Dead (which is strangely placed at the end). And the cover image is a good one too.

Thanks a bunch!

Also Mega City Confidential?

The placement of John Cassavetes is Dead sounds a bit like Father Earth in the middle of Heavy mob.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Timothy on 24 June, 2015, 06:56:37 pm
Yes, also Mega City Confidential. Right at the end.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 24 June, 2015, 07:19:36 pm
Yes, also Mega City Confidential. Right at the end.

Splendid, just splendid.

Sounds like a bang on book to read together with America (inclusion of Judgement call was brilliant) and Total war.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: abelardsnazz on 25 June, 2015, 08:23:38 am
With the announcement on the Facebook page that there isn't going to be an Index volume, I'm toying with the idea of getting a bit OCD and compiling an index for this thing. Would that be of use/interest to anyone?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 25 June, 2015, 08:38:46 am
Yes!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tombo on 25 June, 2015, 10:02:54 am
Way ahead of you.  In fact I've done two, one simply lists the volumes and when I bought them the other is the more detailed one attached.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 25 June, 2015, 03:44:41 pm
Great Endpapers fro Democracy Now!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 25 June, 2015, 05:55:45 pm
Well that's a surpise; my Hachette account is now saying that another two books were dispatched on the 20th, just 17 days after the last batch was despatched. Guess they're trying to catch up after earlier delays...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 25 June, 2015, 06:47:01 pm

The placement of John Cassavetes is Dead sounds a bit like Father Earth in the middle of Heavy mob.

Father Earth was the first outing of the Holocaust Squad (IIRC), hence it's inclusion.  Probably the fact that it was from the early days compared to the more Meg heavy later stories is why it appears so peculiar (<rant>plus the lousy reproduction </rant>).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 25 June, 2015, 07:34:35 pm

The placement of John Cassavetes is Dead sounds a bit like Father Earth in the middle of Heavy mob.

Father Earth was the first outing of the Holocaust Squad (IIRC), hence it's inclusion.  Probably the fact that it was from the early days compared to the more Meg heavy later stories is why it appears so peculiar (<rant>plus the lousy reproduction </rant>).

Make no mistake, I dig Father earth. But I still find it a bit strange that it's in the middle of the book. Placed just before a post-DOC Dredd story.

IMO it would'v worked better if it was the first story of the book, or in the end of the book as a bonus story-ish inclusion. Would'v given it a bit more focus.

Btw. Really hope Dave the orangutang finds his way into some collection at some point. Shame he didn't show up in Democracy now  :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 25 June, 2015, 07:36:32 pm
I'm hoping for a crazy animals book. Surely judge T. rex needs a reprint
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 25 June, 2015, 08:01:29 pm
I'm hoping for a crazy animals book. Surely judge T. rex needs a reprint

That is an awesome idea for a mega collection book! Should also The Guinea Pig That Changed The Law and The black plague  :D!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: sheridan on 26 June, 2015, 12:38:14 am
I'm hoping for a crazy animals book. Surely judge T. rex needs a reprint

That is an awesome idea for a mega collection book! Should also The Guinea Pig That Changed The Law and The black plague  :D !
One of my favourite Dredd panels (featuring an un-named character).

(http://41.media.tumblr.com/28c3e85336a7d68f6a8aca3865efc10c/tumblr_nkm3nnqPlL1qf427ko2_1280.jpg)

We also need to visit Charles Darwin Block, and have Bob & Carol & Ted & Ringo rampaging through MC1.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 26 June, 2015, 02:25:01 pm
Second premium subscriber's print has been revealed:

https://www.facebook.com/judgedreddcollection/photos/a.1523545327903270.1073741828.1517847991806337/1607065912884544/?type=1&theater

Looks lovely, but quite green.  Some sort of weird MC1 pollution?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: sheridan on 27 June, 2015, 01:26:21 am
My version of an index (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O0nNVuCiPHuenaoM1cjvgPr_DvhE_d3rjvxDmu7AiQg/edit?usp=sharing).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: sheridan on 27 June, 2015, 01:31:07 am
My version of an index (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O0nNVuCiPHuenaoM1cjvgPr_DvhE_d3rjvxDmu7AiQg/edit?usp=sharing).
p.s. work in progress (apart from it being about an ongoing publication).  Main thing I need to add is the original progs and megs of the stories.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dandontdare on 27 June, 2015, 01:34:50 am
That "spine number " discrepancy is a fucker - do you think this is a cynical ploy to play on geeks' OCD tendencies? If you've bought 10 issues, your spine count is up to 61!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: sheridan on 27 June, 2015, 01:53:45 am
That "spine number " discrepancy is a fucker - do you think this is a cynical ploy to play on geeks' OCD tendencies? If you've bought 10 issues, your spine count is up to 61!
And how long did it take to go from 01 (America) to 02 (Democracy Now)?  And as they're thematically similar, what's the guess on what 03 will be?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: sheridan on 27 June, 2015, 02:07:14 am

p.p.s. you can't edit the spreadsheet, but you can comment if you have suggestions (or to point out inevitable mistakes).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Timothy on 27 June, 2015, 03:16:30 am
That "spine number " discrepancy is a fucker - do you think this is a cynical ploy to play on geeks' OCD tendencies? If you've bought 10 issues, your spine count is up to 61!
And how long did it take to go from 01 (America) to 02 (Democracy Now)?  And as they're thematically similar, what's the guess on what 03 will be?
It says in the intro to 2 that 3 will be Total War.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 29 June, 2015, 11:32:24 am
My 12 and 13 have just arrived, and as usual they look splendid.  I can't honestly say I'm up to date, as the last one I read was Mandroid,  but I'm passing them on to the eldest and he seems to be enjoying them hugely. 
The shelf they eventually sit on once he's read them is beginning to look great too.  Though as usual with these things,  I'm going to have to add little spine stickers so I know what's actually in them.
Do we know what's next?

SBT
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mardroid on 29 June, 2015, 03:04:43 pm
Mine arrives too. Wasn't expecting Hondo City Justice so soon after.Shimura but its welcome. (I'm sure it was mentioned on this thread and on the schedules but I haven't read it all. Please bear with me.)

I'm looking forward to the other as well. (I have forgotten the name.) I believe these Democracy storylines featured in the prog before I started getting the prog.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mardroid on 29 June, 2015, 03:06:51 pm
I just noticed my redundant use of the word 'prog' after I had hit the 'post' button.

Silly me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 29 June, 2015, 06:29:19 pm
Missed the postie whilst out walking the mutt.
Saturday will have to do.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 30 June, 2015, 06:08:03 pm
Origins 45, Day of Chaos 49. Any ideas what epics could be in between those besides two Tour of duty books?

Got Democracy now and Day of chaos today. Brilliant books. Love how the bigger story/picture is growing with each book.

"Democracy now" has quite a thematic feel to it. Fits well in between the more personal America and balls to the wall awesome Total War.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jamie1000013 on 02 July, 2015, 08:08:20 pm
So far my top 3 are:

1.Origins
2.Day of Chaos (Hopefully there is a lot more of PJ Maybe love his character, want to see his mayor days)
3.Tie between Mandriod and Cursed Earth

I just had a question since I now have Shimora and Hondo city Justice which reading order would be best or doesn't it matter? Think Maybe HCJ first that Shimora but my OCD has had me reading them in release order so fa :-P.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 02 July, 2015, 09:34:07 pm
2.Day of Chaos (Hopefully there is a lot more of PJ Maybe love his character, want to see his mayor days)

That's the real shame of releasing DoC before a PJ book (and then Tour of Duty). PJ's arguably become the best (certainly the most charismatic) of all Dredd's foes and new fans deserve to follow his tale in all its glory gory!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 04 July, 2015, 04:38:24 pm
Read Democracy now -the second time since I got it- today. Dredd killing a kid in Direct action, that (outside kids among the half a bill. people in the retaliation strike on Sov cit. 1) happened before or since?

I was a bit unsure about it's place in the book, but this time around I think Raider fits the book quite well. While not the best Dredd story I've read, or very democracy heavy, it shows a judge with doubts mirroring Joe's before the referendum: doubts Joe comments as "you think too much." (basically key to what he tells himself in the end of Twillight's last gleaming.).

And there's also the art -by Burns- connection. Similar thing with Kennedy's Slabs and Direct action, which I also hope/think could -outside the stuff on surveillance and Total war- serve as a springboard for Chopper volume . Perhaps the fifth MC book is a Chopper one :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: James Stacey on 08 July, 2015, 10:08:08 am
14 - Psi-Judge Anderson: The Possessed
15 - Alien Nations
16 - Doomsday for Dredd
17 - Oz
18 - Day of Chaos: Endgame
19 - Total War
20 - The Simping Detective
21 - The Dead Man
22 - Target: Judge Dredd
23 - Devlin-Waugh: Chasing Herod
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 08 July, 2015, 10:46:03 am
Great line-up! Alien Nations? Any ideas?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 08 July, 2015, 11:16:01 am
Thanks for posting the list! Really looking forward to Oz, DoC:Endgame, Total War, Simping Detective and Dead man.

Any ideas on what Alien Nations and Target: Judge Dredd could be about?

Target-book. Assassins after Dredd? The nip cit bathsuit assassin? Alien nations, Dredd and Anderson in space stuff?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 08 July, 2015, 09:40:25 pm
What is in the hodo city book - apart from the first Quitely Shimura tales? Is it a good one?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 08 July, 2015, 10:23:00 pm
Hondo City Justice contains...
Our Man in Hondo - progs 608-611
Shimura - Meg 2.37-2.39
Babes with Big Bazookas - Meg 3.21
Executioner - Meg 224-226
Deus X - Meg 228-230
Hondo City Justice - Meg 300-303
Project Behemouth - Meg 324-326
Revenge of the 47 Ronin - Meg 332-334
Plus interview with Robbie Morrison & intro by Matt Smith
Some really strong art from Quitely, Andy Clarke, Neil Googe & Mike Collins/Cliff Robinson. Lots of big fun stuff!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 09 July, 2015, 01:07:28 am
Cheers  -i might give that one a go if I can find it in the shops - it wasnt in my local smiths :'(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 09 July, 2015, 10:41:55 am
I found the choice of stories split between the Hondo City justice and Shimura books to be rather odd...and quite confusing as someone who had never read them before. I had to go through both books and note down the issue numbers of each story so that I could make sense of some things.

To me it would have made much more sense to have had the early Shimura stories and those relating to Taoka (did I spell that right?) in the Shimura book and the Shimura stories featuring young Junko (again, not sure if I spelt that right) in the HCJ book...would have made for a much better narrative flow with the two books running more smoothly in parallel with each other rather than chopping and changing.

Still taken together they made for two bloody fantastic books...now I just need to track down the two Inaba stories that were not included...presumably due to space and lack of relevance to the main plot threads?

I’m assuming that Warriors may well find a place in a future Dredd volume of the collection. But I’m not sure where else Big Lix and Flying Kicks fit’s in. Could anyone give us a summary of those two stories, please?

Also I may well be wrong in this, but is the young Junko who was under Shimura’s care for a few stories the same Cadet Junko who eventually turns up in Hondo City Justice?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 09 July, 2015, 01:43:49 pm
The Dead Man, think there'll be any extras in that one besides The dead man? Being that it's only 80 or so pages.

I'm thinking the following stories:
-Letter to Judge Dredd (intro to tales of...)
-Tale of the Dead Man (continuing Dead man)
-Nightmares (finishing up on Yassa Povey. Also tying into Democracy.)
-Young Giant (Back up story. A little intro to Necropolis with Dredd saying he won't be around forever. Fitting considering the book itself)

That would add 100 or so pages right?

Essentially making Necropolis Esquerra's show (how many pages that'd be?), and serve as an intro to it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 09 July, 2015, 02:13:07 pm
According to Barney, the meat of Necropolis is 162 pages. That leaves plenty for the build-up.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 09 July, 2015, 02:35:39 pm
I'd rather have the great Steve Dillon strip Nightmares after - continuing the story of Yassa Povey.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 09 July, 2015, 02:39:01 pm
Or Return of the King - I love an undead chief judge returning! And great Ezquerra art!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 09 July, 2015, 02:58:10 pm
I'd rather have the great Steve Dillon strip Nightmares after - continuing the story of Yassa Povey.

Yes, it makes most sense to stick the leads-ins and build-up into (what would otherwise be) a very slim Dead Man book, then bulk up Necropolis with some of the aftermath tales.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 09 July, 2015, 03:59:30 pm
I remember "Return of the king" as classic Enni's mean-Dredd, but it could probably do well as a fitting finish to Necropolis.

This is how I think I'd put it together.

The dead man:
The dead man (perhaps still taking one or two readers by surprise)
Letter to Judge Dredd & Tale of the Dead Man
Nightmares
Judge Minty (back up. This one really ought to be included.)
A Chief Judge resigns (back up. Puts McGruder in the cursed earth, introduces Silver)

Necropolis:
By Lethal Injection (one hell of a starter)
Rights of Succession
Dear Annie
Necropolis
Return of the King (back up)
Young Giant (back up. Further cementing it as an Ezquerra gig/volume)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 09 July, 2015, 05:01:39 pm
It's always a conundrum - do you want a volume which reads well or a run by the same artist with odd narrative jumps!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 10 July, 2015, 12:56:14 pm
Hachette have just announced distribution for Australia...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 10 July, 2015, 06:47:51 pm
Looks like my three book idea for devlin could be accurate i wonder how many missionary man will get
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 10 July, 2015, 11:10:39 pm
Just realised that Kev Walker's great starscan of Dredd on a Hondo law master has been incuded with the interview. The attention to detail on this series is great!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 11 July, 2015, 10:47:12 am
It's always a conundrum - do you want a volume which reads well or a run by the same artist with odd narrative jumps!

Well I wouldn't mind something like America (basically a Colin McNeil-fest) with Necropolis, but with focus on Ezquerra. Similarly I'd like Dead man done like Democracy now, with a short main story followed by thematic stories from different Dredd eras. As for OZ, I wouldn't mind Bloodline and Shooting Match as back ups. I like a mix of books, some being big pieces (for example Day of Chaos) while others being several smaller pieces (For example Heavy mob) :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 11 July, 2015, 11:14:53 am
I think they should be collected based on story.


Otherwise we could have a McMahon book containing half the Cursed Earth and Judge child and then charles darwin block
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 11 July, 2015, 11:48:36 am
just to be clear, ii foremost want to read story centric and thematic books. not art collections.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: ManParrish on 12 July, 2015, 12:32:29 pm
Hope so more classic Dredd is on the horizon
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 13 July, 2015, 09:22:00 am
I've just noticed that the next 2 issues have been added to my Hachette account, so they'll probably turn up early next week.  Seems like hardly any time since the last 2 were sent out!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 13 July, 2015, 02:50:49 pm
Yeah, my next two have appeared on the account too...and only 3 weeks after the last lot were sent. Looks like they're stepping up the rate of delivery...that's 6 issues in 5.5 weeks now.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: moldovangerbil on 13 July, 2015, 02:56:43 pm
I guess as it's fortnightly they need to run with 13 deliveries each year rather than 12.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 13 July, 2015, 06:21:20 pm
People on FB were constantly giving grief about books being in the shops before they were with subscribers so I guess the sped it up a touch to get ahead of the curve.

Man, people will complain about anything.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 13 July, 2015, 06:39:02 pm
I suspect that they're trying to get all subscribers in sync with each other too. A couple of months ago I only received one book in that months delivery. This put in sync package wise with a friend of mine (he subscribed with issue 1, but I subscribed with issue 3, and I ended up always being one book ahead of him), but not with dispach dates. Where his were sent out towards the end of the month, mine we're always sent out at the beginning of the month...but for the last two deliveries we've both had them dispatched at the same time.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 July, 2015, 09:40:48 am
They were also keen to not change people twice in one month, figuring that was annoy. I was one of the 'late' subs. So I wrote to them on Facebook and asked whether my sub could be moved, and said I didn't care about being charged twice. My next package was among the first ones sent.

Frankly, I think the Facebook complaints are from a bunch of entitled whiners. Hachette's customer service seems pretty good when you actually bother to contact them (although curiously best via Facebook). I've had three replace books and a subs shift, all of which happened with essentially no fuss.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 14 July, 2015, 11:06:00 am
So far I've been very happy with their customer service via, facebook, e-mail and phone. The only thing that I wasn't happy with was when they decided that screen captures showing a field length issue on the website were not good enough and they asked for my account password so that they could look at it. That one was via facebook.

The facebook whinging does seem to have quitened down quite a bit recently :) I'm looking forwards to my next issues arriving...hopefully on Saturday :)
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: W. R. Logan on 14 July, 2015, 12:02:53 pm
I can't fault their customer services for replying however I've asked the same question twice.
I've managed to buy about half the books from my local newsagents and sent a list of what I had and asked what is missed so I could fill the gaps and then subscribe.
Both times I've been told that they're glad I'm buying the books and that they'll be 80 in the series.
So I've still no idea what issues I've missed or what the next one is to subscribe from.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 14 July, 2015, 12:23:49 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd:_The_Mega_Collection (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd:_The_Mega_Collection)

I think 13 is the latest.
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: W. R. Logan on 14 July, 2015, 05:02:04 pm
Cheers Steve.
Obviously the issue numbers don't correspond with the volume numbers and to buy off their site you need the volume number.
Now can look at filling gaps and subscribing.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Steve Green on 14 July, 2015, 06:56:42 pm
The wikipedia entry has issue and volume numbers though? Assuming they're all correct.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 July, 2015, 10:32:17 am
#14 and #15 just arrived here, surprisingly early. The Anderson book looks to collect the black and white stories. Repro appears mostly good, apart from some blown levels on parts of Hour of the Wolf.

Alien Nations includes: Raptaur; Raptaur Returns; Skar; The Alien Way; Howler; Prey; He Came From Outer Space; Alien Town's Burning; An Alien's Guide to Mega-City One (text reformatted from original).

That to my mind is a pretty strong collection, and at a glance the repro here is pretty good, with Raptaur looking especially vibrant. Lots of variety in the art as well, which works well in these more varied collections. (And I don't care what anyone else says, Howler is excellent.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 20 July, 2015, 10:34:36 am
Wait, people dislike Howler? What fresh madness is this? I thought it was a pretty much universaly loved story. I adore it.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Pete Wells on 20 July, 2015, 10:39:31 am
That Alien Nations book sounds great! Some smashing choices in there!

Sadly, I'm going to have to give Hachette a grumpy phonecall today. The only books I got this month were 2&3 (finally) and these been no sign of Democracy Now or Gondo City Justice and I'm gagging to read Mega-City Confidential again.

It's such a shame, it's a great series (in the main) that, for me, is being spoilt by inconstant service.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Molch-R on 20 July, 2015, 10:45:35 am
An Alien's Guide to Mega-City One (text reformatted from original).

What original?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 July, 2015, 11:02:24 am
What original?
Arg. Is that new? My apologies. I remember something very similar to that from the classic 2000 AD years. I thought it was reformatted reprint.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 July, 2015, 11:05:17 am
Wait, people dislike Howler? What fresh madness is this? I thought it was a pretty much universaly loved story. I adore it.
I think the phrase is 'divisive'. At the time, people moaned about the art, and plenty complained about the script too. I thought it was great—full of energy. Then again, I'm one of those people of the opinion McMahon can essentially do no wrong.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Molch-R on 20 July, 2015, 11:05:36 am
Arg. Is that new? My apologies. I remember something very similar to that from the classic 2000 AD years. I thought it was reformatted reprint.

It is - seem to recall it was Matt and Pye's idea :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Link Prime on 20 July, 2015, 11:11:51 am

Alien Nations includes: Raptaur; Raptaur Returns; Skar; The Alien Way; Howler; Prey; He Came From Outer Space; Alien Town's Burning; An Alien's Guide to Mega-City One


Sounds like a brilliant collection of stories, definitely on my cherry-picking list.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: 13school on 20 July, 2015, 11:59:18 am
Is it old news that this is being released in Australia? Just saw an ad for it on television here - off to search the newsagents tomorrow...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 20 July, 2015, 01:19:44 pm

Alien Nations includes: Raptaur; Raptaur Returns; Skar; The Alien Way; Howler; Prey; He Came From Outer Space; Alien Town's Burning; An Alien's Guide to Mega-City One


Sounds like a brilliant collection of stories, definitely on my cherry-picking list.

Hmmmm.I've only just reconciled myself to owning three copies of Raptaur, and started to appreciate it as the fun story it is, but this does look like a nice selection.  Another vote for Howler as an absolutely essential Dredd story - just brilliant in every way.

I've been shamelessly cherry-picking the Mega Collection and have been delighted with every volume I've bought. Now the books I've skipped are starting to taunt me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 20 July, 2015, 01:33:16 pm
I really hope that there will be a Blood of Satanus collection containing all 3 series!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 20 July, 2015, 02:15:29 pm
Heh, throw in Satanus Unchained! and a Mills-proof bunker and you're on!  Am I imagining it or was BoS1 the lead story in Best of 2000AD Issue 1?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 July, 2015, 02:38:59 pm
I've been shamelessly cherry-picking the Mega Collection and have been delighted with every volume I've bought. Now the books I've skipped are starting to taunt me.
I think aside from being slightly narked at having just bought Swimming in Blood before it showed up in this collection, the only book I've been actively disappointed by was Heavy Squad, which was full of stuff that let's say isn't exactly the pinnacle of Dredd. For the money, they're fantastic value on the whole. (And they show up the Marvel collection's books as being rather skinny little things, for the most part.)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 20 July, 2015, 09:30:52 pm
I absolutely bloody loathed Raptur, it all just seemed a terrible slow boring take on Venom with, well art that's not my cup of tea. The number of times I've now bought it is vaguely distressing. Would much rather have seen MeatMonger in its place.

Felt this bundle was a bit sub-par for the 'long time' reader - the Anderson stuff we've likely all got 3-4 times (prog, Best of, Anderson trade, PSI files) and like I said.... Raptur... ugh.

Still, loving the books. Production quality is top notch and that Cam Kennedy panel blown up was lush.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 21 July, 2015, 07:48:55 am
Cool, the alien book seems like itll be allnew for me!

Anderson, what are the stories in that one? Levithans farewell?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 21 July, 2015, 11:02:46 am
The Possessed
Hour of the Wolf
Contact
Beyond the Void
Helios

Three covers
Two text pieces (Molcher on Brett Ewins, and interviewing David Roach)

So with the exception of The Haunting and the Dark Judges story that'll clearly be in another volume, that's all pre-Triad Anderson, I think.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Timothy on 21 July, 2015, 01:30:46 pm
Aren't Helios and Triad two parts of the same story? Or am I misremembering things?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 21 July, 2015, 07:40:35 pm
The Possessed
Hour of the Wolf
Contact
Beyond the Void
Helios

Three covers
Two text pieces (Molcher on Brett Ewins, and interviewing David Roach)

So with the exception of The Haunting and the Dark Judges story that'll clearly be in another volume, that's all pre-Triad Anderson, I think.

Thanks!  I remember The Possessed and Hour of the Wolf being quite good!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: glassstanley on 22 July, 2015, 09:30:49 am
Happy with both volumes. Would have been nice to have had the Dredd strip that linked to Helios included. Nice to see the covers reproduced in colour in the Anderson gallery. Shame about the missing picture of Judge Death on the b& w cover.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Timothy on 22 July, 2015, 11:05:12 am
Happy with both volumes. Would have been nice to have had the Dredd strip that linked to Helios included. Nice to see the covers reproduced in colour in the Anderson gallery. Shame about the missing picture of Judge Death on the b& w cover.

That's what I misremembered! Helios links to The Brainstem Man, not Triad.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 22 July, 2015, 11:18:11 am
Great cover on the Anderson volume & excellent interview with David Roach & feature on Brett Ewins. The repro is pretty bad - but probably same as psi-files. The detail in Roach's stuff is amazing but looks "eaten away" by the resizing. I'm guessing there's another volume to follow with more of Roach. Initially I was disappointed by the lack of the Brain Stem Man and Death's inclusion seemed jarring without any other dark judge stories. Amazing value though for a 200 page hardback & I'm glad it's still available in WHSmiths
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Radbacker on 22 July, 2015, 11:45:39 am
oooh, this is just starting to filter into Oz so I grabbed the first one today (America), only $7.99 for the first one regular price $19.99, great value as Rebellion GN's a ridiculously pricey downunder (I paid anywhere from $39 - $69 for the few Case Files I got but found just a bit too pricey for stuff I already had).
NIce production and great to have in Hardcover too, question to those who have been getting this for a while, do they hold up to multiple reads or do they suffer from page loss like most hard covers?

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 22 July, 2015, 04:16:13 pm
Robert: I'm not sure it's resizing that's the issue. It looks more like scan/levels work to me—overdoing the levels to get rid of grime, but also eating into the details. The hardback ABC Warriors volume also has this problem in the Black Hole arc.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 22 July, 2015, 05:43:28 pm
Repro problems on b&w stories that have amazing Titan versions seems very odd.  I'm guessing we'll continue to see dodgy versions of the b&w stuff. It's a small price to pay.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Arkwright99 on 22 July, 2015, 06:30:33 pm
Robert: I'm not sure it's resizing that's the issue. It looks more like scan/levels work to me—overdoing the levels to get rid of grime, but also eating into the details. The hardback ABC Warriors volume also has this problem in the Black Hole arc.
Doesn't Rebellion have access to the original films taken from the original artwork* or are they providing Hachette with scans from old progs? Comparing the repro of "The Possession" with the original progs it's (all too) obvious that there's considerable 'bleeding' of Ewins' finer line work which, for me, spoils an otherwise excellent strip. Conversely, as Robert points out, both Barry Kitson and David Roach's art suffers from 'over-exposure' in some panels so there doesn't seem to be a great deal of consistency. Which is not to belittle the effort that goes into the repro work - it feels a bit ungracious to complain about such things for lavish £10 hardback editions - but it's the same sense of disappointment I get from the excision of 'next prog' blurbs in the Zenith hardbacks.

As for the Alien Nations volume, is it me or does 'Raptaur Returns' feel like its missing a second act or something? 'Cos otherwise that's some unresolved cliffhanger it ends on.

*Unless I'm mistaken about how the original artwork was/is reproduced in 2000AD, that is.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Molch-R on 22 July, 2015, 06:39:55 pm
Doesn't Rebellion have access to the original films taken from the original artwork

As we've mentioned before, the films of older Progs were really not looked after at IPC/Fleetway and large chunks of them are very damaged or plain missing. KAT-Scan does the very best with what we have access to.

Bear in mind that the old Titan volumes were undoubtedly taken from this film before it was lost/damaged, so it's not fair to compare the two of them. And no, Titan do not have copies of the films; we checked.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 22 July, 2015, 07:58:59 pm
As we've mentioned before, the films of older Progs were really not looked after at IPC/Fleetway and large chunks of them are very damaged or plain missing. KAT-Scan does the very best with what we have access to.
The one I'd be most interested in finding out what happened to is Swimming in Blood. The first edition (from long ago, before KAT-Scan's time, was woeful—a hideous mess of moiré. The new edition, though, was very good indeed, and so whatever clean-up was done on that was seriously impressive, given the nature of the original art.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: glassstanley on 22 July, 2015, 11:26:15 pm
Doesn't Rebellion have access to the original films taken from the original artwork

As we've mentioned before, the films of older Progs were really not looked after at IPC/Fleetway and large chunks of them are very damaged or plain missing. KAT-Scan does the very best with what we have access to.

Bear in mind that the old Titan volumes were undoubtedly taken from this film before it was lost/damaged, so it's not fair to compare the two of them. And no, Titan do not have copies of the films; we checked.

Wouldn't scans of the Titan volumes produce better results?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 23 July, 2015, 12:57:58 am
Just read the Anderson book from cover to cover and thoroughly enjoyed it. I really can't be objective about these stories - I must have them in 4 different formats over the years. I really appreciate the text pieces and recoloured covers. retouching heavily letra-toned art must be a git especially when there's different greys and spatter on top.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 23 July, 2015, 08:37:28 am
retouching heavily letra-toned art must be a git especially when there's different greys and spatter on top.

There were some panels in the 'restored' Hook Jaw for STRIP, where I actually re-drew individual dots by hand…

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 23 July, 2015, 10:16:38 am
Doesn't Rebellion have access to the original films taken from the original artwork

As we've mentioned before, the films of older Progs were really not looked after at IPC/Fleetway and large chunks of them are very damaged or plain missing. KAT-Scan does the very best with what we have access to.

Bear in mind that the old Titan volumes were undoubtedly taken from this film before it was lost/damaged, so it's not fair to compare the two of them. And no, Titan do not have copies of the films; we checked.

Wouldn't scans of the Titan volumes produce better results?

Yes
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: W. R. Logan on 26 July, 2015, 02:25:24 pm
As the person who did the Archive sort out ready for the DC trades before Rebellion took control, I can say that some of the films were in an awful state.
From picking them up in the dumped pile they were in, to sorting out and building the archive from scratch I'm amazed that some of the reproduction is as good as it is.
The Nerve Centre and Kat should be congratulated on how they've turned those films into the products we see today.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Krakajac on 27 July, 2015, 07:43:16 am
As others in the Land of Oz have mentioned...

I was up at 5:00am today, blearily eating my cereal in front of the TV before going to work...and the Mega Collection advertisement popped up.  That woke me up!  First time in all the years I've collected Tooth that a related commercial has aired on Australian TV.

I'll try and hit some local newsagents to see if I can snag a copy of 'AMERICA'.  $7.99AUD isn't a bad deal.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: 13school on 27 July, 2015, 07:52:28 am
I found a copy in the first (Australian) newsagent I went into, and by all accounts (ok, I asked a couple of friends in Melbourne to look around) it's pretty much everywhere. Here's hoping that it keeps appearing on shelves - I can't justify grabbing every issue but there's a lot coming up I wouldn't mind getting ahold of.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 27 July, 2015, 11:34:45 am
I'm hoping expansion to new territories can be seen as a good sign. There's only really been one duff book so far, by my estimation, and the others have all been good to great.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 27 July, 2015, 01:51:53 pm
I'm hoping expansion to new territories can be seen as a good sign. There's only really been one duff book so far, by my estimation, and the others have all been good to great.

...and even that one duff book (I'm making an assumption here, that our opinions align)  was an interesting read for me, as I hadn't read the stories before :) I certainly see the expansion as a good thing :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Krakajac on 28 July, 2015, 11:39:27 am
Queensland, Australia - walked into my small, country newsagent - and found Volume 1 staring at me, which was a nice surprise.  Like many, I can't justify collecting the whole set - but if I can snag AMERICA, MECHANISMO and perhaps APOCALYPSE WAR, I'll be a happy chap.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 28 July, 2015, 12:36:10 pm
...and Oz?     I'll get my coat.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dash Decent on 01 August, 2015, 01:09:36 am
When I die, they're going to go through my things and think I had Alzheimer's.

"Another copy of this?  Didn't he remember he bought it three times already??"

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dash Decent on 01 August, 2015, 02:27:16 am
Okay, my gorgeous wife has snagged volume one for me from the local newsagent.

It looks very nice.  I was interested to see it was a little shorter but a little wider than the Case Files/Rebellion trades.  That bodes well for material from the old UK comic size progs.  How does the Apocalypse War edition look with these dimensions?  Is there less white space and less reduction than in the Case Files?  I imagine there are comments about it somewhere in this thread but I couldn't find them even after trawling through umpteen pages.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 01 August, 2015, 02:04:27 pm
Judge for yourself:

(http://reverttosaved.com/junk/awar.jpg)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dash Decent on 02 August, 2015, 02:23:03 am
Thanks IP.  The amount of white space around the borders looks pretty similar to the Case Files.  The black stands out more, though I imagine the paper makes a big difference in that regard.

Having stared at the photo for a minute or so, my main thought was how great an artist Carlos Ezquerra is.  (That's not a new revelation, just something I often think looking at his artwork.)

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: klute on 04 August, 2015, 03:45:42 pm
Been out of the loop for a while can these be bought separate or is there a chance of them being put into the online store?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 04 August, 2015, 03:57:17 pm
Been out of the loop for a while can these be bought separate or is there a chance of them being put into the online store?

You can buy the issues individually here: http://www.hachettepartworks.com/products/9372-judge-dredd-the-mega-collection.aspx
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 04 August, 2015, 03:59:29 pm
That's pretty good of them and good business sense.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: klute on 04 August, 2015, 04:00:49 pm
Been out of the loop for a while can these be bought separate or is there a chance of them being put into the online store?

You can buy the issues individually here: http://www.hachettepartworks.com/products/9372-judge-dredd-the-mega-collection.aspx

Thanks Jimbo
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 04 August, 2015, 04:33:59 pm
Anyone know if Helltreckers will be in volume?  I know its in the Dredd universe, though not a Dredd story itself.  I know it's a bit dated but...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 04 August, 2015, 04:54:26 pm
On individual issues, don't hang about too long if the Marvel collection's anything to go by.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 07 August, 2015, 04:17:46 pm
Bundle Helltrekkers in with Satanus Unchained and I MIGHT actualy buy one of the Mega Collections...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 07 August, 2015, 04:21:33 pm
I finally saw some of these again in the wild: Waterloo's WHSmith had a bunch of them, alongside 2000 AD and trades of America and Heavy Metal Dredd.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 07 August, 2015, 05:29:42 pm
Think I've seen every volume - including Alien Nations - in my local WH Smith, when I pop in on prog day. Always good to see Tharg's wares out in public where they belong.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 07 August, 2015, 07:50:44 pm
That cannot be the same ashley wood who did those awful metal gear comics...if it is what happened? His arts beautiful in skar
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 07 August, 2015, 11:20:38 pm
Okay, I did enjoy this collection.  I'm not 100% sure if I've read Rapteur, but it seems vaguely familiar.  Both stories in that arc were nice.  Art was suitably moody and the story was pretty good.

Skar, a really good story, lovely moody art, but the story was one that could have done with being a little longer.

The Alien Way.  This I believe was one of Dredd's earlier stories.  Of course the presence of Griffin as Chief Judge shows that.  A fun little story, if a bit of a throwaway one.

Howler.  Oh dear, where do I start.  The story is.....okay.  The art however, in my opinion is horrendous.  Honestly I feel the artist was on a cocktail of some very mind altering drugs and I just hated the art.  I do in general like more realistic representations of character, liking artists like Bolland, Don Lawrences Trigan Empire, even Bellardinelli who is a little more stylised.  This though just seemed like chaos.

Prey.  If there is one fault I could find with this story, its that again it's one that seems a little short.  The nurse having an instance crush on Dredd I thought was going to be something that might be pursued (and would therefore have got her in trouble of course).  This story is really something nice and is set in an era I haven't read much of.  Top marks here

Alien Wedding.  This story had one little fault for me and thats the artists representation of Dredd's facial features, but overall another fun and slightly silly story.  I liked this.

Alien Towns Burning.  A pretty bog standard strip in terms of how original the story is, but good nonetheless.  I'm not 100% sure if I've seen this one before, but overall decent.

To sum it up, this was a really nice collection with the exception of Howler which, sorry, is one I'm just not keen on at all.  Perhaps if there had been a different artist I might have felt differently.  I might be the sole dissenting voice on that.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: SIP on 07 August, 2015, 11:23:31 pm
Ouch.....get ready for the "Howler" defense........




Ps. It's awesome.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 07 August, 2015, 11:59:08 pm
Well as I say, the story was okay, but I just really hate the art style.  If there had been a different style I think I would have enjoyed the story a lot more.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 08 August, 2015, 09:45:02 am
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Howler.  Oh dear, where do I start.  The story is.....okay.  The art however, in my opinion is horrendous

Oh my dear boy. Treasure this comment, for it will be a source of much mirth to you in a few years time, when the scales fall from your eyes.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: CrazyFoxMachine on 08 August, 2015, 10:06:33 am
Oooh man I used to HATE modern McMahon art when I were a lad. I was like "he used to be so cool man - now it's all blocky and abstract and rubbish" - people used to bang on about how wrong I was and I despised them for it. It was my opinion, why wasn't I allowed it? Just because he's a legend doesn't mean I should like it.

However - any dislike of highly stylised art comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of what it's trying to do. I genuinely, GENUINELY thought that McMahon had got like that because he was lazy. Can you believe that?!

It was this cover that changed my mind:

(https://tuggingyourcoat.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/angel_gang_01.jpg)

I spent hours staring at that, hours. The sharpness of it. How bloody clever it all is - how precise and effortless it all appears. Going back there's a genius to those shapes, once you realising he's boiling everything down. I will agree going from Block Mania to The Howler to now is a jarring transition but wade through his blog (WHILST WE STILL HAVE IT :O) http://tuggingyourcoat.com/ and take a gander at the process that man goes through to come out with his stuff. It's utterly unique.

But then again - art is subjective and I ain't forcing anyone to like anything they shouldn't. Embrace why you don't though - question it rather than dismissing it and you'll learn a lot!

Alternatively:

ALL HAIL McMAHON. JOIN US.

(http://www.techartgeek.com/images/2014/04/bodysnatchers.gif)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 08 August, 2015, 10:59:55 am
The most fascinating of all 2000AD artists. Hopefully the blog can't end? *

Howler is one I've never "read", it's in the pile of unread Megazines awaiting a spare year or two. But I've skimmed it and it never fails to raise a smile. Main thing I've taken from these comments is that it's a good story too ?  :)

* Shouldn't we bother Mick through his blog in an effort to dissuade him? His posts are always commented upon, but you'd expect floods of praise. He's Mick McMahon !
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 08 August, 2015, 12:03:08 pm
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I have decided to close this blog. It will be deleted around the middle of September.
Thanks for looking, it’s been fun.

Mick
NOOOOOO. As for Howler, I thought it was a bit hmmm at the time, in my younger days. Now, though, the script comes across as absurdist in the manner Dredd often does so well, and the art has so much energy, dynamism and movement to it. It's great.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 08 August, 2015, 12:04:00 pm
Another cracking little book. And a nice collection of stories. But no Trapper Hag?  :(

Especially nice to reacquaint myself with the Ian Gibson drawn tale. Surely this was his best period on Dredd? Certainly that's my feelings. And not too bad repro for a black and white tale - which does seem to be this collections Achilles heel at times.

And of course; Howler.
I'll not pretend that I didn't scratch my head a little, when I first read it. But looking at it in 2015, every panel looks to be somebody having a great deal of fun (and it is a fun tale), whilst at the same time being an absolute genius.
Each to there own, of course...


And it is a real shame that Mick is choosing to close down his blog, but he obviously has his reasons and we have to respect that.
Many have stopped by to leave comments wishing him the best for what he'll be doing in the future, along with thanking him for starting such a wonderful blog in the first place.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 08 August, 2015, 01:56:10 pm
And it is a real shame that Mick is choosing to close down his blog, but he obviously has his reasons and we have to respect that.
Many have stopped by to leave comments wishing him the best for what he'll be doing in the future, along with thanking him for starting such a wonderful blog in the first place.

Yep, completely. My comment about commenting further was a bit silly, strike that.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: M.I.K. on 08 August, 2015, 04:11:06 pm
I think I must be one of the few folk who really liked the art on Howler the first time I read it, even though I was very familiar with McMahon's previous style.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dash Decent on 09 August, 2015, 04:48:43 am
I've managed to keep up with the Rebellion trades for Dredd and related titles so I'm really umming and ahhing over whether to go for these.  Having them in hardback is an attractive proposition, as is the idea of themed collections (e.g. Democracy Now) but a lot of these seem to duplicate trades that are already out there - America, Mandroid, Shamballa, Mechanismo, Dead Man, Day of Chaos, Devlin Waugh, etc.

What do other Squaxx see as the pros and cons of this collection?  I've seen some negative comments about the quality of reproduction, but also other comments about material being touched up and corrected.  Apart from the extras are there any other improvements in these over, say, the Case Files?  E.g. colour spreads printed in colour here vs black & white in the Case Files.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 09 August, 2015, 07:23:59 am
Outside the fact that I'm reading Dredd in HC, I like that each book can feel like a new layer or puzzle piece to the character.

They'v also retooled some of the books a bit. Some having thematic extras, while others having stories that -for at least- makes for a new ending. For example Origins ending with "The Spirit of Christmas" (taken from Tour of duty) and America with Judgement Call (from MEG300).

I also like the texts that comes with the books. Everything from introductions, longer write ups on characters  to interviews with creators.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Frank on 09 August, 2015, 10:46:41 am
... there's a genius to those shapes, once you realising he's boiling everything down. I will agree going from Block Mania, to The Howler, to now is a jarring transition ...

Well put, Owen. Being introduced to McMahon with *Howler* is probably a bit like beginning Breaking Bad at Season 2, episode 12. Following the development of McMahon's style over the last 38 years allows you to understand what he's constantly striving to achieve (in different and always completely original ways):


(http://i.imgur.com/FDqHY5s.png?1)(http://i.imgur.com/yEbvrDv.jpg?3)(http://i.imgur.com/PcYVH03.jpg?2)
(http://i.imgur.com/D8Nna4p.jpg?1)(http://i.imgur.com/Zws0dO0.jpg?2)(http://i.imgur.com/w6fjixO.png?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/XjDm7O2.jpg?2)(http://i.imgur.com/yg5MZTu.jpg?2)(http://i.imgur.com/duiBOr5.png?2)
(http://i.imgur.com/jbwcAs8.jpg?1)(http://i.imgur.com/AkTx6oK.jpg?1)(http://i.imgur.com/isd5YXV.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 09 August, 2015, 11:14:11 am
What do other Squaxx see as the pros and cons of this collection?
The format is a big pro. These are beautifully produced volumes, equal to the best I have elsewhere. For the most part, Matt's also done a great job in providing themed and/or logical volumes of content. At 80 volumes, it'll also be pretty exhaustive (if not actually comprehensive) by the end.

Cons: there are occasions where DPSs aren't catered for (which has also happened in some trades), and some of the volumes could do with more context. A good example is Democracy Now, where you see Dredd leading the brutal takedown of the marchers, but then seemingly doing an about-face out of nowhere when the vote happens. That would have been a great place for a few paragraphs of introductory copy about what happened in-between.

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Apart from the extras are there any other improvements in these over, say, the Case Files?  E.g. colour spreads printed in colour here vs black & white in the Case Files.
No. The paper quality is better when it comes to the thick case files (and also the first Anderson volume), although the repro is seemingly from the same files. So colour spreads are in greyscale. Some stories also have the common problem of losing some of the detail in the art. That said, I've 'paused' collecting Dredd and Anderson volumes now, purely because I like these volumes a lot more. I hope the series runs the course, and if it does, I can't see me picking up the Case Files from this point on.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: abelardsnazz on 09 August, 2015, 10:48:20 pm
I'd been a lapsed reader for 19 years and had sold all my old progs etc., so when this came along i um'ed and ah'ed for a couple of days and thought, well, a couple of quid for America in hardback, what's to lose? I loved it and haven't looked back. It's brilliant to re-read all the old stories and catch up with what I've missed in a really high-quality format. For me personally, I don't notice the reproduction quality as long as the stories are good and I can tell what's going on.

Standouts for me so far: Origins, Mandroid and Day of Chaos. I can't seem to get into the Shimura/Hondo City stories but some of the artwork is fantastic. The Alien Nations collection hangs together much better than the Heavy Mob one. Maybe if Father Earth had appeared first in that volume it would have given it some context?

Plus they look great on the shelf. The only problem is finding enough space :-)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 10 August, 2015, 05:26:18 pm
I didn't mind both Shimura and Hondo City.  I had never read either collections stories before, though I preferred Hondo City.

Howler is NOT my introduction to McMahon's art.  I was reading 2000AD in the days of Cursed Earth and stopped round about the time of latter Slaine.  It was before McGruder took the long walk anyway.  It's just the art style was too chaotic for my liking though the story was..amusing.

It's just I have preferences.  Another example was the Dark Horse Star Wars Dark Empire.  I wasn't a fan of the two or three colour palette look that seemed to be a common thing at that time, though certain piecs themselves weren't bad.

Anyone know what the next book is?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 10 August, 2015, 05:48:00 pm
Howler is NOT my introduction to McMahon's art.  I was reading 2000AD in the days of Cursed Earth and stopped round about the time of latter Slaine.  It was before McGruder took the long walk anyway.  It's just the art style was too chaotic for my liking though the story was..amusing.

It's brilliant. It arguably works better in the Case Files, within the context of the era - just as the strip began to pull itself free of the Morrisson/Millar tripe. It's as though Wagner is saying 'I can do dumb action too, but my dumb is good.'*


*I think I missapropriated that from someone on the forum - Greg M, maybe?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 10 August, 2015, 08:23:38 pm
Anyone know what the next book is?
According to Hachette (https://www.facebook.com/judgedreddcollection/posts/1611307249127077), the next volume is Doomsday for Dredd, although I've no idea if this incorporates Doomsday for Mega City One as well.

Subsequent volumes:


17/v31: Oz
18/v50: Day of Chaos: Endgame
19/v03: Total War
20/v21: The Simping Detective
21/v04: The Dead Man (which I'd assume will include some of Dredd's 'doubts' arc)
22/v30: Target: Judge Dredd (attempts to assassinate Dredd)
23/v15: Devlin Waugh: Chasing Herod

The thread adds that "Oz will contain the colour spreads in the centre", and confirms volumes on: Judge Death/Dark Judges (v06); PJ Maybe (v28); Mean Machine (including Three Amigos); Judgment Day (bleurgh); Necropolis; some stories with Ron Smith art; Fetish; Insurrection; City of the Damned.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 10 August, 2015, 08:48:15 pm
Well thats where trapper hags going if theres an entire volume about attempts on dredds life
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 11 August, 2015, 07:32:01 am
Considering that there was a sequel to Trapper Hag (Siku on art duty IIRC) and there are still a large number of Dredd alien encounters tales out there (Kiss of the Spider Woman for instance) I wonder if there might be a second alien encounters volume out there.  After all can the collection really be called 'mega' without 'The Starborn Thing' or the recent hairy satire?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 13 August, 2015, 10:41:58 am
Oz and Doomsday for Dredd just showed up here. Oz has colour spreads, NOT black and white! Also includes covers and a BMC interview. Doomsday for Dredd is specifically listed as a companion volume to Doomsday for Mega City One, and so it's surprising the latter isn't scheduled for a while (it'd be volume 24 at the earliest). It includes Beyond the Call of Duty, Return of the Assassin, The Trial, War Games, a handful of covers, and a text piece on villains.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 13 August, 2015, 11:09:27 am
Got my Oz and Doomsday today as well  :D
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: glassstanley on 13 August, 2015, 02:19:06 pm
The colour spreads in Oz look wonderful - thank you to whoever made it happen.
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Link Prime on 13 August, 2015, 03:29:41 pm
The colour spreads in Oz look wonderful - thank you to whoever made it happen.

I really have to get this one.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zanti Misfit on 13 August, 2015, 03:55:20 pm
"Budgie?
We don' need no steenkin' budgie!"

In colour -wow! - can't wait! :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 13 August, 2015, 04:17:38 pm
It looks great (although—NITPICK ALERT—one of these days, I hope someone realises the first two pages of part three are the wrong way round).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 13 August, 2015, 05:22:51 pm
can you post the offending pages?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Proudhuff on 13 August, 2015, 06:25:54 pm
I was just going to get the Dredd ones of this series, lucky that looks like most of them, might have to get the others just to complete the spine picture ...
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 13 August, 2015, 06:45:15 pm
I'm not collecting this series, but I will definitely buy an Oz collection with the colour spreads. Amazing!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 13 August, 2015, 06:53:38 pm
Yeah, for this one I'll waive my 'don't buy if I already have in the Case Files' rule.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 13 August, 2015, 07:06:53 pm
Now I just have to find a way of getting a copy to America...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: glassstanley on 13 August, 2015, 07:28:28 pm
Only question i have is ... why is Oz vol 31? Doesn't it count as a mega-epic? or are they just numbered randomly?
Title: Re: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 13 August, 2015, 07:33:30 pm
The colour spreads in Oz look wonderful - thank you to whoever made it happen.

I really have to get this one.

Yup.  Unmissable, I reckon.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 13 August, 2015, 07:41:50 pm
Only question i have is ... why is Oz vol 31? Doesn't it count as a mega-epic? or are they just numbered randomly?

Maybe Oz is presented in sequence with other Chopper or Dredd Abroad stories?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 August, 2015, 10:51:45 am
can you post the offending pages?
(http://reverttosaved.com/junk/oz.jpg)

As far as I'm aware, this error has been in every version of Oz, so it's not new to this print. Also, while some of the 'blank' fill-in pages are the Dredd visor, early on in the book has a couple of pin-ups instead, which are nice to have included.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: BPP on 17 August, 2015, 01:39:54 pm
Oz, in colour.

Best book yet.

Oz is one of the finest Dredd tales and some of the colour, especially McCarthy, Simpson and Dillon's dolphin, is just beyond zarjaz.

Thanks for putting this into colour, I'm glad we were listend to after the first few books neglected the colour spreads.

(maybe a sign the CF are bring prep'd for special edition reissues?)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 17 August, 2015, 04:10:51 pm
wow - in any order those pages look amazing!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 17 August, 2015, 08:07:12 pm
The repro on the colour pages is very good, especially when you consider the age of the comics in question. It's a very nice collection, too, although it's a bit weird from a numbering perspective that the Chopper volume appears to be #29. It'll be interesting to see how everything hangs together once all the books are on the shelves.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IronGraham on 18 August, 2015, 12:28:32 pm
I think the reason these were in colour is to do with what they had in stock in terms of the films, they were always intended to be in colour (why volume 11 has some such murky repro), unlike the Apocalypse war which was black and white with colour added later for the comic centre spread. I'm more then likely wrong and some lovely gents will point this out for me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: bedlamvr on 18 August, 2015, 01:05:41 pm
I have just finished Oz - a story I do not remember I think I started reading a little after that, I do wonder if they are going to put some more context around the story particularly, Unamerican Graffitti,  the Midnight Surfer and the Song of the Surfer.

I think I had read somewhere that the song of the Surfer is likely to be included somewhere so I am kind of expecting another Chopper volume at some point along the line.

I am also assuming there will be at least one more Anderson book given the ones we have right now are volume 8 and 10.

I know people keep talking about lack of context but I think this is where 2000AD differs from a lot of comic books, the characters change and evolve - Matt Smith eluded to this at the begging of Doomsday for Dredd it was and common for characters to be introduced months before a major story line and gets interwoven with other stories so it is very difficult to grasp what is included and not in a specific arc and what can be trimmed and what are necessities.

Still the only clunker in this series so far has been the heavy mob issue...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dash Decent on 18 August, 2015, 01:36:50 pm
Thanks for putting this into colour, I'm glad we were listend to after the first few books neglected the colour spreads.

(maybe a sign the CF are bring prep'd for special edition reissues?)

It's quite possible.  They need to keep selling the reprints and to do that they have to come up with different ways to tempt repeat purchases.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 18 August, 2015, 03:51:48 pm
I think the reason these were in colour is to do with what they had in stock in terms of the films, they were always intended to be in colour (why volume 11 has some such murky repro), unlike the Apocalypse war which was black and white with colour added later for the comic centre spread.

Yep, as with the Trapper Hag page below, the early colour spreads had colour done seperately from the inks on a sheet of acetate, usually by a different colouritst (I think Tom Frame used to do a lot of these?) If you know a reprint is going to be black and white, just re-scan without the colour acetate. By the time of Oz a lot of the artists were producing full-colour painted spreads, with no seperate linework available.

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/Darkjimbo2/Dredd-Hag2_zpsxxx0zyrn.jpg~original) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/Darkjimbo2/media/Dredd-Hag2_zpsxxx0zyrn.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 18 August, 2015, 04:03:12 pm
Thanks for putting this into colour, I'm glad we were listend to after the first few books neglected the colour spreads.

(maybe a sign the CF are bring prep'd for special edition reissues?)

It's quite possible.  They need to keep selling the reprints and to do that they have to come up with different ways to tempt repeat purchases.

I would snap up a colour CF11 so frickin' fast. Not only (but mainly) for Oz, but the colour spreads for other litle stories like Pit Rat and The Raggedy Man, which are almost impenetrable as is. Plus I'd love it to be as slim as CF12+.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 18 August, 2015, 04:39:33 pm
Yep, as with the Trapper Hag page below, the early colour spreads had colour done seperately from the inks on a sheet of acetate, usually by a different colouritst (I think Tom Frame used to do a lot of these?)

Frame did. I believe he did the majority of the colouring from the newsprint days. Difficult to believe in this digital age that the colour guide would then go off to a 'separator' whose job it was to interpret each of those colours to a limited CMY palette and create the colour plates that would print over the black.

I'm fascinated but utterly baffled as to why there is cyan lettering on the colour overlay, unless the acetate itself has physically picked up a blue tint from the ink in Frame's markers while the sheet has been in contact with the art…

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 18 August, 2015, 05:53:39 pm
I think the reason these were in colour is to do with what they had in stock in terms of the films, they were always intended to be in colour (why volume 11 has some such murky repro), unlike the Apocalypse war which was black and white with colour added later for the comic centre spread.

Yep, as with the Trapper Hag page below, the early colour spreads had colour done seperately from the inks on a sheet of acetate, usually by a different colouritst (I think Tom Frame used to do a lot of these?) If you know a reprint is going to be black and white, just re-scan without the colour acetate. By the time of Oz a lot of the artists were producing full-colour painted spreads, with no seperate linework available.

30something years reading this comic, and I never knew that. Always assumed colours went straight onto the art, and was somehow 'toned out' for B&W reprint in what I now realise would be a process unknown to science.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 18 August, 2015, 06:43:38 pm
any extra story in oz?

looks awesome. cant wait to read it :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Zanti Misfit on 18 August, 2015, 07:24:31 pm
any extra story in oz?

looks awesome. cant wait to read it :)

Good question.
My old Titan reprint of Oz includes the follow-up tale 'Hitman'. Can someone tell me if this is included in the Mega Collection Oz?
(Yes, I am greedy....)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: DarkDaysBish-OP on 18 August, 2015, 07:35:32 pm
As we've mentioned before, the films of older Progs were really not looked after at IPC/Fleetway and large chunks of them are very damaged or plain missing. KAT-Scan does the very best with what we have access to.
The one I'd be most interested in finding out what happened to is Swimming in Blood. The first edition (from long ago, before KAT-Scan's time, was woeful—a hideous mess of moiré. The new edition, though, was very good indeed, and so whatever clean-up was done on that was seriously impressive, given the nature of the original art.

Some of the problems with Swimming in Blood stem from the repro processes used at the time. The size of the original artwork created some challenges, as did the fact that some pages had layers of collage art. Sean's originals looked amazing, but we struggled to get good scans because the depth of field was too fine to capture all the levels of the art with an even focus. Those problems were disguised by the hyper-absorbent bogroll paper the Meg was being printed on at the time, but became apparent when seen on nice glossy paper from the Mandarin edition onwards.

Sorry!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 18 August, 2015, 08:03:23 pm
Bish-OP: The Hamlyn collection isn't too bad, and although the art was quite dark in the Meg, it looked fine to me. It was that first Rebellion collection that was terrible, presumably a result of scanning and not cleaning up well. The latest version (and, I assume, the Mega Collection one) look good again.

Apestrike: nope—it's just Oz. My guess is the hitman story will be in the volume about assassination attempts on Dredd.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: glassstanley on 18 August, 2015, 08:39:29 pm
Thanks for putting this into colour, I'm glad we were listend to after the first few books neglected the colour spreads.

(maybe a sign the CF are bring prep'd for special edition reissues?)

It's quite possible.  They need to keep selling the reprints and to do that they have to come up with different ways to tempt repeat purchases.

I would snap up a colour CF11 so frickin' fast. Not only (but mainly) for Oz, but the colour spreads for other litle stories like Pit Rat and The Raggedy Man, which are almost impenetrable as is. Plus I'd love it to be as slim as CF12+.

Put me down for a colour CF11 as well. The second centre-spread of Fairly Hyperman is sorely lacking without the colour.

Though there are still a few b&w strips that could be revisited as well (Father Earth...)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: James Stacey on 19 August, 2015, 11:48:21 am

I'm fascinated but utterly baffled as to why there is cyan lettering on the colour overlay, unless the acetate itself has physically picked up a blue tint from the ink in Frame's markers while the sheet has been in contact with the art…

Cheers

Jim
He's painted over a cyan lined repro hasn't he ? you can see similar faint markings bottom right where there are movement lines around Dredds helmet (oo er)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Big_Dave on 19 August, 2015, 05:03:06 pm
He's painted over a cyan lined repro hasn't he ?

Yes

Teh top image is an acetate copy if the b/w line art (including speech bubbles)

The middle image is a copy of the b/w line art printed faintly (in blue line) on board which has been painted with poster color

Teh bottom image shows the top (acetate) image placed over the middle (poster color on board) image
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 19 August, 2015, 07:49:13 pm
Wait wait wait oz is no 3? I thought total wars supposed to be no 3?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 19 August, 2015, 07:50:19 pm
And its 31...read that wrong xd
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 20 August, 2015, 07:54:59 am
I'm about halfway through Doomsday for Dredd, and really enjoying it.  So far it's all stuff I missed as a result of my decade long 200AD hiatus.  While I've read The Pit since, I still had no idea what happened to DeMarco afterwards, and this is filling in the gaps a bit.

However, the stories does hop from 'DeMarco is a Sector Chief' to 'DeMarco has been kicked off the force' without explanation as to the latter.  It's a bit jarring.  I guess her story of how she failed Justice Dept will pop up in another book, but I couldn't help thinking it would have been nice to see her arc collected in one volume.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 20 August, 2015, 08:02:59 am
I was amazed by the Beyond The Call Of Duty story in this volume. Stunning! I'm really hoping DeMarco's change of careers is covered in another volume. I'm guessing there are other stories before she leaves being a judge? On a seperate note I loved Simon Davis on Dredd.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 August, 2015, 09:51:00 am
However, the stories does hop from 'DeMarco is a Sector Chief' to 'DeMarco has been kicked off the force' without explanation as to the latter.  It's a bit jarring.  I guess her story of how she failed Justice Dept will pop up in another book, but I couldn't help thinking it would have been nice to see her arc collected in one volume.
There's a lot of this in the MC, and it's the collection's one failing for me. We could have done with more context in-between stories occasionally, which could have referred to other volumes. Democracy Now jolts in a similar fashion.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 20 August, 2015, 10:32:52 am
He's painted over a cyan lined repro hasn't he ? you can see similar faint markings bottom right where there are movement lines around Dredds helmet (oo er)

So you can! Thanks for spotting that.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Robes on 20 August, 2015, 09:53:20 pm
Having not read The Pit is it worth me waiting before reading Doomsday for Dredd?  Presumably The Pit will come out at some point?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: I, Cosh on 20 August, 2015, 10:04:24 pm
Having not read The Pit is it worth me waiting before reading Doomsday for Dredd?  Presumably The Pit will come out at some point?
Probably not. It introduces a few of the characters but a lot of the build up happens in bits and pieces along the way: Bad Frendz, Scorpion Dance, Beyond the Call of Duty, the one-off introducing the new Lawgiver, etc.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 August, 2015, 10:21:22 pm
Personally, I'd be tempted to hang on until Doomsday for Mega-City One is in your mitts. The two books work really nicely read together. Odd that the gap between the two is going to be months.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin YNWA on 21 August, 2015, 06:51:22 am
Personally, I'd be tempted to hang on until Doomsday for Mega-City One is in your mitts. The two books work really nicely read together. Odd that the gap between the two is going to be months.

Yeah defo this. I waited (until I'd got a copy of the trade of the Meg issues) when I caught up and it was well worth it.

A very underestimated epic in my book.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 21 August, 2015, 07:24:06 am
This is a tough decision for me - Doomsday (specifically previews of Kennedy and Wilson's art) was what brought me back to 2000AD from the Cursed Earth, but this means that my knowledge of the preceding period is spotty. So while the first volume looks as gorgeous as ever, I think I'll hold on for the Casefiles version and get the full publication context.

Cover is great, mind!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 21 August, 2015, 08:53:17 am
Yeah - I think these slow burner Wagner stories work better in the context of the case files - having said that I am sure they are a blast for new readers.

You have to get both!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Satanist on 21 August, 2015, 11:04:40 am
I've never read the Doomsday stories so was quite looking forward to reading them this weekend but now feel I might be missing out without having the other one. To wait or not to wait, hmm.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 21 August, 2015, 11:08:29 am
Once upon a time my local library (before it was closed down) owned both of the Doomsday trades. Reading them side by side was bloody good fun and an interesting idea for a crossover (did it have any effect on the much latter and much more unique Trifecta?).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 21 August, 2015, 07:03:47 pm
Yeah - I think these slow burner Wagner stories work better in the context of the case files - having said that I am sure they are a blast for new readers.

You have to get both!

I've read none of this period before and it's fascinating (knowing that Doomsday looms on the horizon) seeing the pieces slowly begin to come together. It's interesting that as early as Case Files 23 we're getting introduced to the major players!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Big_Dave on 21 August, 2015, 07:28:14 pm
Teh build up works better than the pay off so Id wait until you can read it all in 1 go

Could have done with MORE build up - teh epic would be better without the Orlok/trial stuff stopping teh action and distracting from the main story

Orlok stuff would work better as build up story or as Megzine part of teh story - popular character, would have convinced more people to buy the Megzine than Demarco detective
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 21 August, 2015, 08:57:25 pm
Yeah - I think these slow burner Wagner stories work better in the context of the case files - having said that I am sure they are a blast for new readers.

You have to get both!

I've read none of this period before and it's fascinating (knowing that Doomsday looms on the horizon) seeing the pieces slowly begin to come together. It's interesting that as early as Case Files 23 we're getting introduced to the major players!

Yeah, there's a fascinating throughline in all of what I like to call the 'Volt era' - beginning in the aftermath of McGruder and 'Wilderlands' and encompassing everything from 'Statue of Judgement' and 'The Cal Files' (in which we're introduced to Edgar and the PSU), through 'Bad Frendz', 'The Pit', 'The Hunting Party', 'Beyond the Call of Duty', 'The Scorpion Dance', and numerous shorter stories in between (even apparently unrelated shorts like 'Mad City' 'The Decision' and 'Angel of Mercy' adding ingredients to the greater whole), all neatly culminating in the huge 'Doomsday Scenario' epic and the follow-up tale 'The Cal Legacy', where table-setting is begun for what I consider to be the next era of Dredd.

The consensus seems to be that Doomsday is one of the least popular epics - and admittedly (like Necropolis before it) the build-up is way more interesting than the endgame, and it arguably suffers a little from being awkwardly split between prog and Meg - but show me an era where Wagner was as focused and prolific, where it really feels like one continuous serial that is building towards something big - and where the strip has or a stronger, more grounded supporting cast. There's also the added bonus in that it also includes what is  as close as we're ever likely to get to a love interest for Dredd, which is very well-played I think.

I bloody love it! Favourite era of Dredd hands down. Massively underrated imo.

Could be wrong, but I think I'm right in saying that readership for 2000ad and the Meg was probably at its lowest ebb during this time (the dark, post-Stallone, pre-Rebellion years, and it also ran during what is undoubtedly the Megazine's most controversial period) so there's this whole wonderful era of Dredd that many will be reading for the first time via the Case Files. Large swathes of it has rarely - if ever - been reprinted until now.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 21 August, 2015, 09:09:10 pm
Reading the stories I missed I feel a bit guilty about turning my back on 2000ad. In the era of Vertigo, when all the "cool" writers went on to "adult" stuff, Dredd seemed so unfashionable. Post Crisis (the UK one) 2000ad seemed safe and stuck repeating past glories. I realise now there was so much quality & good work there. It's great now to catch up on The Pit & the Demarco stuff, plus Nikolai Dante - which is easily the equal of any other "classic" thrill. Anyway I'm back & loving the prog, Meg & especially the MegaCollection
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 21 August, 2015, 09:39:33 pm
...but show me an era where Wagner was as focused and prolific, where it really feels like one continuous serial that is building towards something big - and where the strip has or a stronger, more grounded supporting cast. There's also the added bonus in that it also includes what is  as close as we're ever likely to get to a love interest for Dredd, which is very well-played I think.

I bloody love it! Favourite era of Dredd hands down. Massively underrated imo.

I'm loving the intro of the supporting cast - not just among the judges, but a recurring roster of citizen characters who really make the city feel like a living place. Bishop Snodgrass, Mrs Gunderson, Frank and Chuck of the Quite Nice Bar, Rubella Ffish and (on the horizon) Oola and Homer Blint. It's something I really think's lacking from the strip currently - where are their equivalents?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dandontdare on 21 August, 2015, 10:14:42 pm
I agree with those guys above. Doomsday is underrated, I certainly remember being utterly gripped at the time, and the prog/meg split worked much better than it did with Wilderlands.

Wilderlands wasn't great at the time because if you didn't buy both titles there were huge jumps and gaps in the story, but it works much better collected. On the other hand, Doomsday juggled the threads very well at the time, but in retrospect, as Big Dave  says, the trial episodes seem to unnaturally drag the pace.

When I bore people about 2000ad, I often bang on about the unique skill of telling a self-contained story in 5 pages every week, whilst still creating a narrative that goes on for years (or decades). For this reason, I hope Tharg will always go for what's best for that weekly dose of thrill power, rather than what's going to work in the trades. I don't like stories that feel like they're graphic novels that have just been sliced into five page sections.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 21 August, 2015, 10:22:37 pm
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I'm loving the intro of the supporting cast - not just among the judges, but a recurring roster of citizen characters who really make the city feel like a living place. Bishop Snodgrass, Mrs Gunderson, Frank and Chuck of the Quite Nice Bar, Rubella Ffish and (on the horizon) Oola and Homer Blint. It's something I really think's lacking from the strip currently - where are their equivalents?

Ha, yeah. There's also the two guys - the fatty and his coach (whose names escape me - Ernie?) from 'Fast Food', who go on to show up in 'The Bazooka' and 'Sin City'.

I also really like that Dredd has a little posse of fellow judges that crop up very frequently in the few years following The Pit (though I wish Wagner had done more with some of them), and I love Edgar - she a great foil for Dredd, and a 'villain' that he isn't equipped to fight - he can't throw her in a cube, or just shoot her! Roffman is another great little supporting judge character, that goes without saying.

That period of the Megazine is really interesting - Wagner had 15 pages to work, so we get the closest thing we've ever had to a monthly US comic book- format Dredd episodes written by Wagner. Lots of gems in that run.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 21 August, 2015, 10:28:30 pm
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When I bore people about 2000ad, I often bang on about the unique skill of telling a self-contained story in 5 pages every week, whilst still creating a narrative that goes on for years (or decades). For this reason, I hope Tharg will always go for what's best for that weekly dose of thrill power, rather than what's going to work in the trades. I don't like stories that feel like they're graphic novels that have just been sliced into five page sections.

Yeah, that's a good point. And it's hard to really put your finger on, but there's really nothing quite like following one of these big epics week to week over the course of six months or so. Reading them for the first time all in one go is never quite the same is it?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Big_Dave on 21 August, 2015, 10:30:11 pm
there's a fascinating throughline in all of what I like to call the 'Volt era' - beginning in the aftermath of McGruder and 'Wilderlands' and encompassing everything from 'Statue of Judgement' and 'The Cal Files' (in which we're introduced to Edgar and the PSU), through 'Bad Frendz', 'The Pit', 'The Hunting Party', 'Beyond the Call of Duty', 'The Scorpion Dance', and numerous shorter stories in between (even apparently unrelated shorts like 'Mad City' 'The Decision' and 'Angel of Mercy' adding ingredients to the greater whole), all neatly culminating in the huge 'Doomsday Scenario' epic and the follow-up tale 'The Cal Legacy'

Fun stories - inconstent art. Awkward era - new artists story telling not quite there, older artistd getting used to demand of comp7ter color/painted art
Jumble of different styles & media makes connected stories feel seperete - worst on Doomsday. Lots of artists interrupt flow of story week to weak

People forget how important art is to story tellling
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 21 August, 2015, 10:53:55 pm
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People forget how important art is to story tellling

Whereas I think people get way too hung up on it.

I grew up reading 2000ad, man. Switching artists mid-story doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's all part of the fun.  :lol: I'll grant that veering between Si Davis, Neil Googe, Mick McMahon, Cam Kennedy et al early on in Doomsday might be a little jarring for some, but the real meat of the story is (IIRC) drawn by guys like Steve Tappin, Andrew Currie, Charlie Adlard, Colin Wilson and Mike Collins - whose styles aren't a million miles apart IMO - certainly not enough to break the flow of the story.

I'd also argue that the really dodgy period for art was the early to mid nineties. Most of the dead weight artists were long gone by '95.

If there's a problem with the art in this particular era I'm talking about, it's that poxy early computer colouring. I can't defend that. By the time Chris Blythe shows up it's pretty much fine. His ealry stuff is a little rough and filter-tastic, but it's infinitely preferable to certain others, whose colouring almost ruins otherwise classic stories.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Big_Dave on 21 August, 2015, 11:14:32 pm
Switching artists mid-story doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's all part of the fun

Yeah - like I say my problem was inexperienced artists iron8ng out kinks in there story telling & technique - as well as experienced atrists struggling with computr color and painting strips on a weakly schedule

Lots of differnet artists not as big problem as different MEDIA. Computer color, paint, flat inks - hodge podge. Lots different artists not problem on City Of The Danmed - b/w format and experienced atrists
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 21 August, 2015, 11:31:55 pm
Switching artists mid-story doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's all part of the fun

Yeah - like I say my problem was inexperienced artists iron8ng out kinks in there story telling & technique - as well as experienced atrists struggling with computr color and painting strips on a weakly schedule

Lots of differnet artists not as big problem as different MEDIA. Computer color, paint, flat inks - hodge podge. Lots different artists not problem on City Of The Danmed - b/w format and experienced atrists

I just don't agree.

I don't have a problem with the difference in media (Isn't pretty much all of Doomsday computer-coloured linework anyway?) and I would hesitate to call any of the artists involved inexperienced (with a couple of exceptions who only draw a handful of episodes between them). To my mind the only thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is Simon Davis' weird scratchy pen and ink work on 'The Trial', but even that I kind of enjoy on its own merits.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Big_Dave on 22 August, 2015, 12:00:12 am
I don't have a problem with the difference in media (Isn't pretty much all of Doomsday computer-coloured linework anyway?)

Sorry for confusion - talking about the Volt era (described above). New artists finding what works for them & experienced atrists getting used to new media
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 22 August, 2015, 12:50:59 am
Fair enough.

As I say, for me the super patchy era for art was the early to mid nineties. Not naming any names, but you get a lot of very inexperienced artists cropping up around that time that (imo) wouldn't stand a chance in hell of getting published nowadays. You also have the problem of lots of young artists trying - often disastrously - to emulate Bisley, and also old pros - so good at black and white linework - struggling to produce full-colour work.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: DarkDaysBish-OP on 22 August, 2015, 07:30:44 am
Yeah - I think these slow burner Wagner stories work better in the context of the case files - having said that I am sure they are a blast for new readers.

You have to get both!

I've read none of this period before and it's fascinating (knowing that Doomsday looms on the horizon) seeing the pieces slowly begin to come together. It's interesting that as early as Case Files 23 we're getting introduced to the major players!

Could be wrong, but I think I'm right in saying that readership for 2000ad and the Meg was probably at its lowest ebb during this time (the dark, post-Stallone, pre-Rebellion years, and it also ran during what is undoubtedly the Megazine's most controversial period) so there's this whole wonderful era of Dredd that many will be reading for the first time via the Case Files. Large swathes of it has rarely - if ever - been reprinted until now.

You are wrong about the readership for 2k and the Meg being at their lowest ebb during this time.

But I totally it's great that some people are rediscovering some cracking Dredds from this era now.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Proudhuff on 22 August, 2015, 12:19:36 pm
Yeah - I think these slow burner Wagner stories work better in the context of the case files - having said that I am sure they are a blast for new readers.

You have to get both!

I've read none of this period before and it's fascinating (knowing that Doomsday looms on the horizon) seeing the pieces slowly begin to come together. It's interesting that as early as Case Files 23 we're getting introduced to the major players!

Could be wrong, but I think I'm right in saying that readership for 2000ad and the Meg was probably at its lowest ebb during this time (the dark, post-Stallone, pre-Rebellion years, and it also ran during what is undoubtedly the Megazine's most controversial period) so there's this whole wonderful era of Dredd that many will be reading for the first time via the Case Files. Large swathes of it has rarely - if ever - been reprinted until now.

You are wrong about the readership for 2k and the Meg being at their lowest ebb during this time.

But I totally it's great that some people are rediscovering some cracking Dredds from this era now.

Please show workings.
 ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richard on 22 August, 2015, 05:34:23 pm
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However, the stories does hop from 'DeMarco is a Sector Chief' to 'DeMarco has been kicked off the force' without explanation as to the latter.  It's a bit jarring.

That happened in The Scorpion Dance, which was a direct sequel to Beyond the Call of Duty. Seems a bit odd to reprint one without the other. This is why I stick to the Case Files.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 22 August, 2015, 08:42:41 pm
Beyond the call of duty as an intro to Doomsday for Dredd is a surprising choice. It's been a while since I read it, will be an interesting read.

Perhaps then The Scorpion Dance will show up in Doomsday for MC1.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 26 August, 2015, 09:33:37 am
For me Beyond the call of duty was the best thing about Doomsday, but the rest held up quite well. Better than I remember. Looking forward to reading the MC1 book.

The alien book was also cool. I quite like these thematic collections. Raptaur was the high light, fun origin to Jack Point's "pet" :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tjm86 on 26 August, 2015, 02:14:16 pm

Could be wrong, but I think I'm right in saying that readership for 2000ad and the Meg was probably at its lowest ebb during this time (the dark, post-Stallone, pre-Rebellion years, and it also ran during what is undoubtedly the Megazine's most controversial period) so there's this whole wonderful era of Dredd that many will be reading for the first time via the Case Files. Large swathes of it has rarely - if ever - been reprinted until now.

This was the period that saw my return to tooth after an absence of a few years.  I had picked at a few bits but nothing had really stood out.  Didn't bother much with the megazine at the time.  Not sure why.  Perhaps the odd times that I had really hadn't impressed.  I'd always felt like with so much potential in the Dreddverse it was wasting the opportunity with dross.  Even now with a meg-slog they are hard work.

I would heartily agree though that this period was the start of the return to grace.  Great artwork, cracking writing, interesting new characters and stories.  The move to Rebellion massively ratcheted up the quality but it was growing for a while beforehand.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 26 August, 2015, 05:50:35 pm
Doomsday is a tricky one to collect due to the sheer number of related stories and the constant overlap/recapping of story between the prog and Meg segments. The old Hamlyn books made a good stab at it - 'Blind Justice' was a John Burns-heavy book that collected, among other things, all of PSU/Edgar's appearances - Statue of Judgement, The Cal Files and Sleaze. The Scorpion Dance had it's own book that collected that story and Beyond the Call of Duty, then two complementary volumes collected the Doomsday arc, one was material from 2000ad, the other being mostly Megazine stuff, essentially splitting the story in half rather than trying to organise it chronologically.

Pretty good books, but not 100% definitive as they did imo skip over several fairly crucial stories, including (IIRC) Bad Frendz (first appearance of Vitus Dance and the Mega City Frendz/Nero Narcos), Worst of Frendz, Gun Play, The Contract and The Cal Legacy. There were also several follow-up stories (Incident at Rowdy Yates, Lobsang Rampage, Short Circuit etc etc), though I wouldn't consider them essential to the main plot.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Tombo on 26 August, 2015, 11:38:40 pm
Pretty good books, but not 100% definitive as they did imo skip over several fairly crucial stories, including (IIRC) Bad Frendz (first appearance of Vitus Dance and the Mega City Frendz/Nero Narcos), Worst of Frendz, Gun Play, The Contract and The Cal Legacy. There were also several follow-up stories (Incident at Rowdy Yates, Lobsang Rampage, Short Circuit etc etc), though I wouldn't consider them essential to the main plot.

"The Pit" is in Volume 40 so perhaps Vol.41 will include all of the other Frendz/Edgars stories, or at least the most relevant ones.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 27 August, 2015, 09:02:00 am
Given the complexity of the task (how do you deal with stories that fork into/inform many others? E.g. the Vienna stuff, Blood Cadets, Total War, all important parts of each other's stories), TMC really has been very well handled.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 27 August, 2015, 11:58:40 am
Doomsday is a tricky one to collect due to the sheer number of related stories and the constant overlap/recapping of story between the prog and Meg segments. The old Hamlyn books made a good stab at it - 'Blind Justice' was a John Burns-heavy book that collected, among other things, all of PSU/Edgar's appearances - Statue of Judgement, The Cal Files and Sleaze. The Scorpion Dance had it's own book that collected that story and Beyond the Call of Duty, then two complementary volumes collected the Doomsday arc, one was material from 2000ad, the other being mostly Megazine stuff, essentially splitting the story in half rather than trying to organise it chronologically.

Pretty good books, but not 100% definitive as they did imo skip over several fairly crucial stories, including (IIRC) Bad Frendz (first appearance of Vitus Dance and the Mega City Frendz/Nero Narcos), Worst of Frendz, Gun Play, The Contract and The Cal Legacy. There were also several follow-up stories (Incident at Rowdy Yates, Lobsang Rampage, Short Circuit etc etc), though I wouldn't consider them essential to the main plot.

I've heard about a Hoover-story that contradicts Origins. In what ways? Is it an essential one?

Given the complexity of the task (how do you deal with stories that fork into/inform many others? E.g. the Vienna stuff, Blood Cadets, Total War, all important parts of each other's stories), TMC really has been very well handled.

Fully agree. Feels like a punk-ish puzzle of sorts.

The Smith and Molcher intros and outros of each book is of great help also, tying it together. Michael's views on Anderson made me appreciate her solo stuff by Grant alot more than I did before!

I'm especially interested in how America, Democracy now, Total War and The dead man (and if there'll be another of those. Brothers of the blood perhaps?) plays and ties into each other with clones, doubts and long con reformation.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 27 August, 2015, 12:29:27 pm
I'd love to see an index volume form part of this series. Not listing the entire contents (as the DC Graphic Novel Collection has done) has added a lot more fun and speculation - but I don't know how anyone could find a story without flipping through all the covers. Great series - really liking the text pieces & extras!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 27 August, 2015, 11:06:13 pm
I thoroughly enjoyed this volume though I did enjoy the Orlok sections more than the Narcos bits.  It did seem a bit of a leap between the time DeMarco was sector chief to when she was suddenly a civvie.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 28 August, 2015, 12:06:42 am
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I've heard about a Hoover-story that contradicts Origins. In what ways? Is it an essential one?

The Cal Files revolves around Dredd tracking down a data disc (how quaint) that contains confidential files, including a 'secret that could bring down Justice Department'. This turns out to be an insinuation that Chief Judge Fargo had an affair with a woman, and Dredd considers the possibility that a) Fargo was a massive hypocrite and Justice Department was founded on a  lie, and that b) Dredd himself is the natural son of Fargo, and not his clone. At the end of the story, the woman Fargo was photographed fraternising with turns out to have actually been his half sister (?), not his lover, the trumped-up 'evidence' of the affair collected by Edgar for the purposes of blackmail, and the files are destroyed.

This doesn't really marry up with the 'revelation' in Origins that Fargo conducted an affair with his secretary/deputy(?), and that this has always been an open secret within Justice Department - which totally was founded on a lie - and everyone is totally fine with it, including Dredd.

There's been arguments on this forum as to whether this is or isn't a plot hole/continuity error. My personal opinion is that it is a continuity booboo, and that most likely John Wagner simply forgot the earlier story. He doesn't strike me as someone who gets too hung up on continuity stuff. I think there's a quote somewhere where he says that you just need to 'accept that there will be mistakes and get over it', and I agree.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 28 August, 2015, 07:36:44 am
It's a favourite topic of Sc*j*'s, but the simple in-universe explanation is that Dredd has accepted a single romantic lapse (he more-or-less says so in Origins 'never had the benefit of the Academy'), and he accepts much the same from DeMarco in The Pit), but evidence that Fargo actually just couldn't keep it in his Emphatically Yesses, lied about it, fathered children and never told Joe and Rico their true, errr, origins is a different matter (see DeMarco's handling of Maggio in Beyond the Call of Duty). So I really don't see it as inconsistent.

But yeah, my guess is that in baseline reality John didn't worry about it too much.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin YNWA on 28 August, 2015, 08:07:30 am
Yeah its worth remembering that there are 11 years (about) between The Cal Files and Origins and if there's one thing long term readers of Dredd should accept, he's not the immovable object the short view of Dredd can paint him as. Over those 11 years and the subsequent 10 years, I'm sure more contradictions could be found, and you'd hope so to, as he's changed.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 28 August, 2015, 11:48:34 am
That Oz colour work is great. Are there any other books in the Mega Collection which print the original colour spreads in colour ? I was disappointed that the Apocalypse War one didn't.

Does anyone know if you can buy individual books from Hachete or is Ebay/Amazon the way to go?

With the benefit of a Post Origins reading re the Cal Files I'm assuming we can say that Cal didn't know about the open secret re Fargo which was why he thought he could use it to blackmail/destroy.

I really get a brain freeze when it comes to the Cal Files/Origins but I'm like with with Ben Kenobi in Star Wars and then watching it post the Prequels.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Colin YNWA on 28 August, 2015, 11:53:31 am

With the benefit of a Post Origins reading re the Cal Files I'm assuming we can say that Cal didn't know about the open secret re Fargo which was why he thought he could use it to blackmail/destroy.


Or maybe she did, couldn't evidence that so fabricated the evidence for an equal crime believing doing so was justified if not specifically true.

Don't know if that theory would stand up to close reading as I've read neither for a while, but its a possibility?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 28 August, 2015, 01:23:03 pm
Are there any other books in the Mega Collection which print the original colour spreads in colour ?
Not that I recall far. Then again, there wouldn't be too many items anyway yet.

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Does anyone know if you can buy individual books from Hachete or is Ebay/Amazon the way to go?
Get them direct. (http://www.hachettepartworks.com/products/9372-judge-dredd-the-mega-collection.aspx) Although you probably shouldn't wait too long.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 28 August, 2015, 04:53:17 pm
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Get them direct.

Unless you live in America. Gah! Needs me that Oz book!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 29 August, 2015, 12:36:11 am
Thanks for the link Indigo. Just ordered my copy of Oz. Cannot wait.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Echidna on 29 August, 2015, 12:44:22 am
Just ordered my copy of Oz.

If my local WHS doesn't have it on Wednesday I'm going to do the same... How much do they charge for postage?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dash Decent on 29 August, 2015, 04:35:48 am
My first lot of books were waiting for me when I got home last night.  The books look good but I am not impressed by the way Bissett, the local distributors, have sent them out.  The books came in an unpadded plastic satchel type envelope.  The ceramic coffee cup is smashed and the pin on the back of the badge is bent and crushed.  One of the books has a bumped corner.  I understand they normally send out magazines rather than hardbacks but surely if you're selling something as a collection you should understand that your customers want them in a collectible condition.

They also included (and charged for) volume 1 even though I set the subscription up to start from volume 2.  I'd noticed this earlier and had asked about it.  They told me just to take out what I wanted from the parcel when it arrived, reseal it and mark it "Return to Sender" to send it back!  Talk about well dodgy.  Leaving aside the number they did on my gifts, the Post Office has done their job delivering the parcel, but Bissett want a freebie on the return cost!  They should be able to supply a Return Paid (i.e. free post) address for returns.

I'll see how they address the damaged gifts issue.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 29 August, 2015, 08:33:22 am
Over in the UK the books were quickly replaced no questions asked. Sorry for all the nonsense but the collection really has been worth sticking with!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Mattofthespurs on 29 August, 2015, 11:03:47 am
Over in the UK the books were quickly replaced no questions asked. Sorry for all the nonsense but the collection really has been worth sticking with!

As were the gifts. My badge was damaged (the pin bent to buggery) and they replaced that within a week and sent me another much to boot (although I think they did that just so they could send the badge in the same box as the mug).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dash Decent on 29 August, 2015, 01:07:03 pm
Thanks guys.  It turns out my brother has a subscription with them to some Marvel chess set collection and he's had to write to them repeatedly to get broken pieces replaced.  It's all clearly down to the lack of protective packaging but they don't seem interested in doing anything about it.

I'm sure I'll get it sorted out but I just wanted to sound off.  I was looking forward to getting the books and this took the shine off it this time round.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richard on 29 August, 2015, 03:44:20 pm
Re the Origins / Cal Files continuity debate on the previous page of this thread: I don't see it as a contradiction.

1. There's a difference between a one night stand during a moment of weakness and carrying out an illicit affair over months or years.

2. In The Cal Files it says "Fargo used his offices to procure the woman preferment and other benefits." So it's not just sex but also corruption.

3. Fargo was alleged to have got the woman pregnant with twins and then covered up the affair by dishonestly pretending they were clones.

That last one is hard to reconcile with the date of Fargo's death given in Origins, 10 years before Joe and Rico Dredd would have had to have been born. That's the only discrepancy.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: petesbeats on 02 September, 2015, 02:12:48 pm
Just orderd OZ direct from Hatchett as my local WHSmiths have stopped stocking these which is a massive pain.  Only £10.49 inc del though
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: radiator on 02 September, 2015, 05:59:42 pm
Yay! Snagged a copy of Oz off eBay for a very reasonable price.

While I'm not collecting the Mega Collection I would definitely buy more individual issues if they have the colour centre spreads included.

Which of the early epics haven't been collected yet? Judge Child? The Day the Law Died?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: abelardsnazz on 02 September, 2015, 06:44:23 pm
Neither of those you mention have appeared yet, we've had The Cursed Earth and Apocalypse War, both fully black & white. Next earlier story is The Dead Man in issue 21, can't wait to read that again, John Ridgway's art is brilliantly atmospheric.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Magnetica on 02 September, 2015, 08:13:52 pm
Went into Smith's at Waterloo station today to see if they had Oz. Normally they have a few MCs to go with the plentiful supply of Progs but it was no where to be seen. I'm hoping its a temporary blip.

Also my local Co-Op seems to have given up on it a good couple of months ago.

Has anyone else noticed shops that are no longer stocking it?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 02 September, 2015, 08:18:27 pm
These partworks never stay in the shops for the full 80+ issues.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 02 September, 2015, 10:50:40 pm
First time my local W H Smith hasn't stocked it. I may be buying the hell out of it at FP tomorrow. Shame they're always sealed (although I see why they do that).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Proudhuff on 04 September, 2015, 05:19:21 pm
First time my local W H Smith hasn't stocked it. I may be buying the hell out of it at FP tomorrow. Shame they're always sealed (although I see why they do that).

PF in Edinbra don't stock it, however the RSMcColl in St James Centre does, they also carry a healthy supply of the Prog and Megazine, which is nice.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 05 September, 2015, 08:26:59 pm
Okay, my thoughts, brief as they are.

First time I'd read any of this stuff.  I'd read the previous chopper stories wayyyyyy back, but Oz and the Judda story?  Never.  The only Judda style story I'd read was the Kraken assesment in Tale of a Dead Man and bits in Necropolis. 

I liked the book overall.  Nice little 'easter egg' with the Paul Hogan caves.  I'm mixed on the division between the Judda storyline and the Chopper, thinking there were certain elements of the Judda that could have been increased and cut some of the more filler aspects of the Chopper storyline.

Don't get me wrong, its a damned good book.  I sat down and read it all in one sitting, and that was without undue rushing of it.  The mutant aerial creatures in the Mexican area (can't remember its name off hand) were funny, and the art style of those reminded me a little of some of the more chaotic Yutjee (sp?) creatures that Bellardinelli created in Meltdown Man.

Overall, very happy with this.  What's next?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 05 September, 2015, 09:08:26 pm
Next issue is Day of Chaos: Endgame, and then Total War.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jamie1000013 on 06 September, 2015, 03:28:07 pm
Next issue is Day of Chaos: Endgame, and then Total War.

That's awesome was looking forward to the next part of Day of chaos.

Just out of interest what was the dispute about the ending of Oz about between Wagner and Grant? Just finished and it was awesome, one of the best so far so just wandering what the alternative ending would have been.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Richard on 06 September, 2015, 03:51:10 pm
Grant wanted Dredd to shoot Chopper in the back.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 06 September, 2015, 04:14:03 pm
Which would have been rubbish, because that's what Dredd usually does. The hesitation, the respect, the difficulty of the decision, the conclusion denied... That was the better ending.

On the other hand, killing off Chop at '12 was entirely fitting. It's a good job no other writer interfered with that ending...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 08 September, 2015, 02:16:03 am
One point during choppers flight he was shot at by an unseen person was this supposed to be that hitman from the post oz story of the same name?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 08 September, 2015, 11:53:49 am
One point during choppers flight he was shot at by an unseen person was this supposed to be that hitman from the post oz story of the same name?

In a city of 400 million people, most of them unhinged, gun-toting lunatics... it's unlikely that Jacobi just happened to be sat on the roof of his block that night, on the offchance that Chopper passed overhead. Factor in that the city sky is full of sky-surfers, bat-gliders and flying cars, and how would the shooter even know who he was firing at anyway?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 08 September, 2015, 09:17:49 pm
Just got the Oz issue - Wow! The colours look great and I love the intro & interview. I'm wondering how they'll combine the previous chopper stories - I guess with the later ones. It shows how 2000ad goes into your brain when I can remember the missing caption after the painted Steve Dillon dolphin double page. Lovely cover but the endpapers were a bit dull. Maybe there just wasn't a better landscape image. All in all this book is a steal - thanks to all involved.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 12 September, 2015, 06:55:28 pm
 it was further on when chopper was flying over a jungle that chopper was shot at by an unknown shooter we never see the shooter
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 12 September, 2015, 07:59:03 pm
Ah, right- faulty memory circuits! It's probably even more unlikely that it was Jacobi, though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 14 September, 2015, 12:15:19 pm
Issues 18 and 19 just arrived...gutted heavily bashed in the post and mashed corners of the books. This is the first time that I've felt I need to ask for replacements :( Also, unless I just got dodgy books, the quality of the printing (particularly on  the title pages, credits and recap pages) has taken a bit of a nose dive...misaligned plates, fuzzy text, dull reds, white specks showing through the black...really hope I just got a couple of iffy issues and the replacements will be at the usual standard.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 14 September, 2015, 03:41:26 pm
Great timing to get total war just before their re-appearance in the Meg. Truely tharg is mighty.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 14 September, 2015, 04:03:15 pm
really hope I just got a couple of iffy issues and the replacements will be at the usual standard.

Contact them. The consensus seems to be that they're very good about replacing damaged books. Mention the printing thing, too — you may well have duff copies.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 September, 2015, 05:15:11 pm
I've had three or four books replaced so far. All done through Facebook. Never had a problem. All replacement books arrived within a week—and with better packaging.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Echidna on 14 September, 2015, 07:54:57 pm
Great timing to get total war just before their re-appearance in the Meg. Truely tharg is mighty.

The Heavy Mob was well-timed too, right before the Holocaust Squad made an appearance in the Meg (IIRC). I didn't actually get the book but the talk about it (and preview in the preceding Megazine) was useful as a primer (for this Dredd noob, at least).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 14 September, 2015, 08:42:51 pm
cant wait to get my hands on doc endgame and total wat! btw, what stories are in the books? really curious which story/stories that ends DoC!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 15 September, 2015, 10:21:28 am
Mine just arrived. Total War print job seems largely fine here, bar four pages that have speech balloons with slightly blurry (but still readable) text. As of the contents:

Total War: Terror; Total War; After The Bombs; Visiting Hour; The Searchers; Horror in Emergency Camp 4; three covers; Henry Flint interview.

Day of Chaos: Engame: Eve of Destruction; Tea for Two; Wot I Did...; Chaos Day; The Days After; Wasteland; five covers; 'Living in the ruins' four-page text feature.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 15 September, 2015, 03:00:37 pm
What are Hachete like for returns/replacements. Just collected mine from the post office today. Box was immaculate. Copy inside had dents in cover. Several pages inside creased. Couple of pages torn. Assume therefore all damaged before being posted.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 15 September, 2015, 03:50:24 pm
I've had several books replaced, for various reasons, mostly severe denting from postage, and in one case a pronounced gouge from books being shipped in the same box as the badge gift. In all cases, I went through Facebook and had a response within a day or two; after that point, a new book was shipped and arrived within a week. In all cases, the replacements have been in excellent condition.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 15 September, 2015, 04:19:16 pm
Silly question. What Facebook page did you write to?

Also did you need to send the damaged book back to them?

Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 15 September, 2015, 04:27:23 pm
This one: https://www.facebook.com/judgedreddcollection?ref=br_rs

In my case, they didn't want damaged books returned. They did in one case ask to see a photo of the damage, for their records.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 16 September, 2015, 02:25:43 pm
Yeah can't fault their response through Facebook; I had confirmation that replacement books were being sent out within 24 hours of messaging them. I sent them pictures of the damage with my initial message, just to make sure that they could see the damage.

They haven't asked for the damaged books to be returned. They did ask for me to return a book the one time that they sent an incorrect one by mistake, but in that case they gave me a freepost address to send it to.

Glad to hear that the print quality issue isn't across the board and that was probably just a further bit of bad luck :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 September, 2015, 02:39:52 pm
Having read some more Total War, more pages are affected than I thought, but it's hard to tell at what stage of the process things went wrong. Nothing is unreadable anyway, and, oddly, it's only speech balloon text that appears to be affected (and even then not always across an entire page).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: abelardsnazz on 16 September, 2015, 05:43:20 pm
Day of Chaos - wow. That's all I can say. Wow.

On the subject of print quality, the Story So Far page is impossible to read but I'm not too worried about that.

The concluding piece by Molch-R mentions Trifecta, does anyone know if this will be in a forthcoming volume?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 16 September, 2015, 06:46:49 pm
Thrilled to see that Endgame has my favourite image of Dredd this century on the cover. Still amazed how a picture of a guy whose unknown face is obscured by a helmet, a respirator and a shadow, and whose body is covered in armour, weaponry and fascist regalia, can so clearly scream utter despair. That, sprogs and squaxxes, is yer actual Art.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 17 September, 2015, 01:46:36 am
Thrilled to see that Endgame has my favourite image of Dredd this century on the cover. Still amazed how a picture of a guy whose unknown face is obscured by a helmet, a respirator and a shadow, and whose body is covered in armour, weaponry and fascist regalia, can so clearly scream utter despair. That, sprogs and squaxxes, is yer actual Art.

Quite. Just missed this in the prog but catching up with DoC in trade, this page had more power than any other I could recall. And not purely due to the added momentum that you get in trade format. I'd place it above that generally accepted 'greatest Dredd panel' - you know the one.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Proudhuff on 17 September, 2015, 12:27:05 pm
and Endgame smells loverly!!  :-[
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Link Prime on 18 September, 2015, 10:33:45 am
Thrilled to see that Endgame has my favourite image of Dredd this century on the cover. Still amazed how a picture of a guy whose unknown face is obscured by a helmet, a respirator and a shadow, and whose body is covered in armour, weaponry and fascist regalia, can so clearly scream utter despair. That, sprogs and squaxxes, is yer actual Art.

Totally agree.

I forget which one of you lucky bastids have the original art for this page. Spikes I think?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 18 September, 2015, 01:44:57 pm
Thrilled to see that Endgame has my favourite image of Dredd this century on the cover. Still amazed how a picture of a guy whose unknown face is obscured by a helmet, a respirator and a shadow, and whose body is covered in armour, weaponry and fascist regalia, can so clearly scream utter despair. That, sprogs and squaxxes, is yer actual Art.

I agree re the actual art, but I think it's a major spoiler for anyone coming to it for the first time.  That page in the story had so much impact when first printed because it is so unexpected - seeing it on the cover beforehand is a kind of heads-up that shit is going to get too difficult for Dredd to deal with.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 18 September, 2015, 03:29:45 pm
Although it was very powerful Day of Chaos was such a destructive story for the Meg I can't say I've properly enjoyed any Dredd stories since. Its felt like everything has been dark and serious for too long. Not asking for a funny ha ha story just something that's a bit of an adventure and a romp. Anyone else feel like this?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: robert_ellis on 18 September, 2015, 03:36:23 pm
The sensitive klegg story reminded me that it's nice to have fun in the Dredd world sometimes...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Rio De Fideldo on 18 September, 2015, 04:20:52 pm
Oops forgot about that story. I enjoyed that.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 18 September, 2015, 04:26:30 pm
Sylvia Plath had its moments.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 18 September, 2015, 04:35:06 pm
There was the giant tapeworm one too, that was a laugh, and written by this fellow here:

https://2000ad.wordpress.com/2014/05/09/michael-carrolls-giant-worm/
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Frank on 18 September, 2015, 05:22:25 pm

Dark Justice, Block Judge, and Breaking Bub were lightweight action adventures and, despite deploying the overused HUGE THREAT TO THE CITY trope, Carroll and Marshall's Cascade was a silly story about Mega-Judges From Space challenging Dredd to a punch-up.

Alec Worley and Leigh Gallagher's End Of The Road, prog 1911 (10th December 2014), features Dredd's bike being destroyed by a dozing OAP in a motorised wheelchair; Dredd fines the couple whose car he lands on for not displaying a valid tax disk. The punchline is the grinning skull of a suicidal pensioner dissolving in acid, which is funnier than any episode of The Vicar Of Dibley


(http://i.imgur.com/QIwSEWf.png?2)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: bedlamvr on 18 September, 2015, 09:32:29 pm
Day of Chaos - wow. That's all I can say. Wow.

On the subject of print quality, the Story So Far page is impossible to read but I'm not too worried about that.

The concluding piece by Molch-R mentions Trifecta, does anyone know if this will be in a forthcoming volume?

Trifecta is (as per Facebook page) issue 24, judgement day 25, then low life; paranoia (?) issue 26
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: bedlamvr on 18 September, 2015, 09:32:59 pm
Sorry double post
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: sheridan on 18 September, 2015, 10:10:46 pm
Trifecta is (as per Facebook page) issue 24, judgement day 25, then low life; paranoia (?) issue 26

MAC is your friend.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: The Monarch on 19 September, 2015, 06:12:21 am
I wonder if the judgement day book will include top dogs as an extra
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 19 September, 2015, 11:29:56 am
Thrilled to see that Endgame has my favourite image of Dredd this century on the cover. Still amazed how a picture of a guy whose unknown face is obscured by a helmet, a respirator and a shadow, and whose body is covered in armour, weaponry and fascist regalia, can so clearly scream utter despair. That, sprogs and squaxxes, is yer actual Art.

Totally agree.

I forget which one of you lucky bastids have the original art for this page. Spikes I think?

A knockout image from a knockout story. For my money, Dredd doesn't get much better than the Day of Chaos. A true modern classic.
I can still recall the goosebumps I got seeing that page in the prog. One of those pages that stops you in your tracks, for sure.

Owning the original art, I was able to supply Pye with a fresh high resolution scan of the Dredd figure. I believe fellow forumite Simeon Brewer was able to do something similar for the Fourth Faction book.
The DoC was the tale that got me buying the prog again every week, so to have been able to help out - even in a small way, means quite a bit to me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 19 September, 2015, 06:23:42 pm
It's also Dredd's mood at the end, basically that in his mind, the City he knows is dying.  There's not just the deaths from Day of Chaos itself, it's going to be the disease from corpses still to be gathered, the opportunistic crooks and any factions that take advantage of their situation.

Above it all is the continuing butthurt from East Meg 1 survivors and descendants over the Apocalypse War.  If they hadn't started it, then they wouldn't have got hit with nukes in response.  What did they expect?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: abelardsnazz on 19 September, 2015, 11:19:02 pm
Thanks for the notification on Trifecta. My years in the wilderness mean I've never read it before, just plenty about it on here and elsewhere, so the surprise element is gone, but looking forward to reading it and hopefully understanding some of the rug-pulling from the original publication. Thoughts to follow.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 20 September, 2015, 10:01:38 am
Just to report that my own copy of Endgame seems free of dodgy printing - the 'Story so far...' page is maybe a tiny bit blurry but everything else is as utterly horrific as before. What really strikes me is the insane density of this story, given its length. It just never stops cramming in panels, new and recurring characters (such as -scratch head, look thoughtful - PD-314!) and little horror vignettes, and even when we pause for a splash page it's bursting at the seams with ghastly detail and frequently crucial narration.  The use of Beeny in particular is inspired, seeing this complex competent person who we've known from a toddler struggle on through mounting loss, fatigue and despair is, well, overwhelming.  Astounding body of work, the equal of anything in the strip's history.

Oh, and when do we get Bagwell back on Dredd - he's magnificent, even in such august company.

Wastelands works a treat as an epilogue too, almost a pity it didn't follow straight away in the original progs (no disrespect intended to the stories that did - after all we got Judge Maitland and Sue Perkins Block out of those!).
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 September, 2015, 12:05:22 pm
Endgame seems fine here, too. It's Total War that's a bit of a mess. I suspect it's a botched print run, judging by people posting pics on Facebook. Whether it affects the entire run is another matter, but I've asked Hachette to let me know, and I'll report back.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 20 September, 2015, 08:25:22 pm
I've got to say one panel that got to me, really got to me, was the one where the Judges, Dredd among them IIRC, found what they thought were two survivors.  Two young children who I assume are brother and sister huddled in a corner and the next shows them in the full throes of the illness, snarling..
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: TordelBack on 20 September, 2015, 10:01:55 pm
Endgame seems fine here, too. It's Total War that's a bit of a mess.

D'oh! Got my megadeath scenarios mixed up.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Skullmo on 20 September, 2015, 10:05:48 pm
I have never read total war and so would like that book - are they planning to reprint it? Is it all the issues that are badly printed?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: abelardsnazz on 21 September, 2015, 08:41:44 am
Total War is the next issue to be released in the UK, due on 30th September.

Hopefully the printing issues were just a glitch on the last run. Personally I've been satisfied with the print quality so far.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 21 September, 2015, 11:44:43 am
I have never read total war and so would like that book - are they planning to reprint it? Is it all the issues that are badly printed?

The tpb saw a reprint last year, and it seems there's still copies left on amazon.

Has some of the stuff I've read in Judge Dredd with the "After the Bombs" ep. Terror is also quite brutal. Love the book.

Hope the mega collection print is okay. Was hoping to see Caught in the Act collected, but perhaps/hopefully in another volume. Cool to see Visiting hour (Blood trails in the Brothers of the blood book perhaps?) collected, and I haven't read to the other two. Looking forward to it :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 21 September, 2015, 11:58:52 am
This is the problem with it:

(http://reverttosaved.com/tmp/total-war-2.jpg)

I can't recall how many pages this sort of thing happens on—probably about a dozen or so. The text is still readable (although on a couple of pages, only just), but it's noticeably iffy. Curiously, it on some pages only affects a small portion rather than the entire thing. I've no idea if the original files or the print run are to blame. As noted, I've asked Hachette for feedback and will report back if I get a reply.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Fungus on 21 September, 2015, 01:29:54 pm
Thanks for the future updates on this in advance. Not read Total War and it's on my cherry-picking list. Wonky printing would be a deal-breaker.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: James Stacey on 21 September, 2015, 01:37:56 pm
My copy of Total war has the text noticeably thicker on some pages than others but nothing as bad as that, and the page you show is fine. Odd
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 21 September, 2015, 02:04:09 pm
Has some of the stuff I've read in Judge Dredd with the "After the Bombs" ep. Terror is also quite brutal. Love the book.

"stuff" was supposed to say "worst stuff". After the bombs is really brutal. Not for the faint hearted!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 21 September, 2015, 02:32:24 pm
My copy of Total war has the text noticeably thicker on some pages than others but nothing as bad as that, and the page you show is fine. Odd
That means it's definitely some kind of print-run issue, then, and not the source files. Hachette just replied to me with "We are looking into the problem".
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dash Decent on 21 September, 2015, 03:41:13 pm
It looks like the kind of thing you should be looking at through 3D glasses.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: dweezil2 on 21 September, 2015, 04:38:32 pm
It looks like the kind of thing you should be looking at through 3D glasses.

That's an idea for Prog 2000 or maybe a hologram cover, the likes of which DC are so fond of producing!  ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 22 September, 2015, 02:46:47 pm
On Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152947917556685&set=o.1517847991806337&type=1&comment_id=10152955419896685&offset=0&total_comments=3):

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Hey guys, It doesn’t look like there is a problem with the source material so we are looking into whether or not something has gone wrong in the printing process. It has not affected the whole run though, so if you haven't provided us with your address and the issues affected via PM, do so and we will send out replacements! Thanks!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Spikes on 22 September, 2015, 04:12:15 pm
Yes, a print run problem would have been my thought. I have two copies of Endgame, and the 'story so far' page is perfect on one, and hard to make out on the other.
So fingers crossed for when Total War lands in the shops...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 22 September, 2015, 10:45:36 pm
I'll guess the Batman crossovers like Judgement in Gotham etc won't be part of this due to the whole copyright and licensing issues there would be.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 23 September, 2015, 02:32:46 pm
On Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152947917556685&set=o.1517847991806337&type=1&comment_id=10152955419896685&offset=0&total_comments=3):

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Hey guys, It doesn’t look like there is a problem with the source material so we are looking into whether or not something has gone wrong in the printing process. It has not affected the whole run though, so if you haven't provided us with your address and the issues affected via PM, do so and we will send out replacements! Thanks!

I wonder if this is why the my replacement issues have not shown up on my account yet or been delivered...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 24 September, 2015, 09:12:13 pm
Just finished OZ. Much I liked reading it in the case file book, as a stand alone book with colourspreads it really shined.

Love the weird mix of Dredd going against Chopper (who's introduction is perfectly handled. No need to have read the old stories to follow this one) and then teleportating clone extremists judges. Not to the mention the giant mexican mutant chickens and also showing Chopper's influence on people. I also liked having covers between the eps. Not only did I like the looks of them, but they also helped separate the two story lines.

Only down side of the book was some of the spreads. Some text boxes disappeared in the center of them. Just as with Democracy now. While I could make out most of what they said, I still wish they could've been a bit better. But all and all, I really liked it.

My aim is to read both DoC books tomorrow, followed by Dark Justice :)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Jade Falcon on 25 September, 2015, 07:17:50 pm
So what's the next book?  Sorry for keeping asking but it would be nice to know what to expect next.  I'm liking that I'm getting a lot of stuff I haven't read before.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 25 September, 2015, 07:37:08 pm
So what's the next book?  Sorry for keeping asking but it would be nice to know what to expect next.  I'm liking that I'm getting a lot of stuff I haven't read before.

Back on page 84 of the thread: http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,41506.msg887162.html#msg887162
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Anzati on 26 September, 2015, 11:22:07 am
Well my replacements for the damaged issues arrived today. Just had a flick through Total War and the print quality is much better than the first one that I received.Every page is readable, although one page still suffers from fuzzy double exposed text and a few other the text is quite thick...nothing that will stop me enjoying this one though :)

Hope they've got to the bottom of the problem and that future volumes won't be hit by this though...

The next two volumes will be interesting as we hit the first point where I think I'll have read every story in both volumes before, so far I've been lucky and at least one volume each month has had a large chunk that was new to me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: IndigoPrime on 26 September, 2015, 11:34:00 am
Good to hear replacements are on the way. (I've not had one yet.) And since every other book's been OK, I suspect this was a one-off cock-up in the print run. These things happen.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
Post by: Apestrife on 28 September, 2015, 10:22:34 am
I finished reading Day of Chaos: The Fourth Faction & Endgame (the JDMC-books. Intro text to endgame was a bit blurry, otherwise OK) and Dark Justice the other day