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JayzusB.Christ

Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 14 September, 2010, 09:27:39 AM
Interested in this new Irish blasphemy law, but nowhere near a working computer to Google it. Anyone care to sum it up?
SBT

From Wikipedia - Read it and weep:

'In the Republic of Ireland, blasphemy is required to be prohibited by Article 40.6.1.i. of the 1937 Constitution. The common law offence of blasphemous libel was effectively replaced in 2009 by a new offence of "publication or utterance of blasphemous matter". The continued existence of a blasphemy offence is controversial, with proponents of freedom of speech and freedom of religion arguing it should be removed.'

Cunts, cunts, cunts.

(You have a computer that only visits the 2000ad webpage, then?)
"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"

JOE SOAP

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COMMANDO FORCES

I see that even in Cuba they are getting rid of quite a few public sector jobs (Radio 5live last night).

johnnystress


Richmond Clements


SmallBlueThing

Cheers jayzus, that's appalling, and im glad to see that mine and my wife's decision to leave Ireland in 2003 because we didnt want our children brought up there hasnt proven to be an overreaction.
And no, i access this forum (and facebook) through my phone, and all other sites are either non-optimised or just too slow to deal with, on the mobile internet. My laptop sadly has killed itself, and its replacement wont be got until thursday. I was at work earlier, and my guys wouldn't have appreciated me using theirs.
SBT
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JOE SOAP

Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 14 September, 2010, 04:51:16 PM
Cheers jayzus, that's appalling, and im glad to see that mine and my wife's decision to leave Ireland in 2003 because we didnt want our children brought up there hasnt proven to be an overreaction.


It's still a better place to raise kids than most and with a tiny population. Just instill in them the need to overthrow their rulers more often.

House of Usher

Cor! Are people still interested in politics, then?

They're going to privatise Royal Mail, you know.
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The Legendary Shark

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Notes
[1] - NHS Direct saves the taxpayer £213 million a year by giving advice on the phone instead of at a hospital or doctors' surgery. http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23871909-plans-to-scrap-nhs-direct-attacked.do
- Read more about the NHS Direct climbdown and nurses cut at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/09/nhs-direct-closure-health-politics
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Stan

Quote from: Mr 9.8 on 14 September, 2010, 12:26:02 AM
Quote from: Garageman on 14 September, 2010, 12:22:39 AM
Quote from: Mr 9.8 on 14 September, 2010, 12:15:30 AM
So do we discuss the politics of the U.S. & A. too? or is it just Euro politics?


Only if you feel like burning the Quorn Qur'an.

Well they burn Bibles & the American Flag in Islamic countries so all's fair in love & war in my mind. :lol:

This isn't really a reply to your comment, which I agree with. I just thought it was something worth mentioning because they're connected.

Orthodox Jewish youths burn New Testaments in Or Yehuda
http://www.haaretz.com/news/orthodox-jewish-youths-burn-new-testaments-in-or-yehuda-1.246153

Muslims Block Bible-Burning In South Africa
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/6728577-muslims-block-bibleburning-in-south-africa

I actually disagree with the banning of book burnings by private citizens but I suppose it's the thought that counts.

Now if politicians start burning books...

JayzusB.Christ

QuoteCheers jayzus, that's appalling, and im glad to see that mine and my wife's decision to leave Ireland in 2003 because we didnt want our children brought up there hasnt proven to be an overreaction.

Nae tother a'ball.  Fortunately not everyone in Ireland is retarded enough to support this horrible idea:

'Michael Nugent, (Atheist Ireland)'s chair, said that it would challenge the law through the courts if it were charged with blasphemy.

Nugent said: "This new law is both silly and dangerous. It is silly because medieval religious laws have no place in a modern secular republic, where the criminal law should protect people and not ideas. And it is dangerous because it incentives religious outrage, and because Islamic states led by Pakistan are already using the wording of this Irish law to promote new blasphemy laws at UN level.

"We believe in the golden rule: that we have a right to be treated justly, and that we have a responsibility to treat other people justly. Blasphemy laws are unjust: they silence people in order to protect ideas. In a civilised society, people have a right to express and to hear ideas about religion even if other people find those ideas to be outrageous."'
"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"


Casshern

I would vote for the above poster !