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What do you want/not want from the Dredd sequel(s)?

Started by ChickenStu, 25 June, 2013, 11:27:30 PM

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Dandontdare

the most important character in Judge Dredd, arguably as important as Dredd himself, is Mega City One - as the first film had to be constrained to one block, I'd dearly hope they'd include more city stuff - weird crazes, unhinged cits, future sports etc.

ChickenStu

Quote from: Dandontdare on 29 August, 2013, 05:00:00 PM
the most important character in Judge Dredd, arguably as important as Dredd himself, is Mega City One - as the first film had to be constrained to one block, I'd dearly hope they'd include more city stuff - weird crazes, unhinged cits, future sports etc.

Agree. If there is ONE thing I could have in the sequel it's more of Mega City One. I loved how Mega City One was depicted in the movie.
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Chrrow

To me the most important thing would be to see more of Mega City 1. Even though the first movie was great I would prefer to see them fighting in an open space. Maybe even see the cursed earth but what I would like to see the most is Judge Death. Usually I would say that it's too early if they want to make 3 movies but after what happend with Dredd I don't want to risk not to see Death at all if the second movie has the same problems.

ChickenStu

I really ain't sure that Judge Death could work in these movies. I could be wrong (and I frequently am) but Dredd had such a realistic tone to it that suddenly bringing undead beasties from another dimension into things - I don't see how they could make it work. I'm saying nothing new here. You've heard this from me before.

Having said that I would love to see 2000AD/Rebellion venture into direct to DVD animated films. Some of the DC Universe ones are absolutely wonderful. That would be a great medium to introduce everyone's favourite undead Judge.

As for a movie sequel, we need it on the actual streets of Mega City One. The society, the justice system... all this would be perfect ground for the sequel to explore. Something along the general lines of The Day The Law Died (although the acute satire of that one might need to be toned down).
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dweezil2

Quote from: ChickenStu on 02 January, 2014, 03:49:17 PM
I really ain't sure that Judge Death could work in these movies. I could be wrong (and I frequently am) but Dredd had such a realistic tone to it that suddenly bringing undead beasties from another dimension into things - I don't see how they could make it work. I'm saying nothing new here. You've heard this from me before.

Pretty sure writer Alex Garland said somewhere that his take on Judge Death was not to have him as a dimensional, supernatural being, but rather an ex Judge who had become radiated in the Cursed Earth after a long walk.

That would be the best way to go in my opinion and wouldn't clash with the established tone of movie Dredd.
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Quote from: dweezil2 on 02 January, 2014, 04:27:42 PM
Pretty sure writer Alex Garland said somewhere that his take on Judge Death was not to have him as a dimensional, supernatural being, but rather an ex Judge who had become radiated in the Cursed Earth after a long walk.

I don't believe he ever extrapolated on what he would do and that particular idea came out of a fan-wank thread.

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Quote from: JOE SOAP on 02 January, 2014, 04:34:42 PM


Quote from: dweezil2 on 02 January, 2014, 04:27:42 PM
Pretty sure writer Alex Garland said somewhere that his take on Judge Death was not to have him as a dimensional, supernatural being, but rather an ex Judge who had become radiated in the Cursed Earth after a long walk.

I don't believe he ever extrapolated on what he would do and that particular idea came out of a fan-wank thread.

It's possible, I suppose.
Though I'm sure it was touched upon when he was being interviewed regarding a potential trilogy (The Cursed Earth forming the basis for part 2 and Death part 3) for an online article or maybe even Empire Magazine-I'll have to dig them out and take a look.
He may even of discussed it with myself and some of the other board members when we met him at the London Comic Con in 2012, prior to Dredd's release.
He certainly said that the scripts for the other two films were good to go, although his involvement in making the sequels was questionable, due to various factors. 
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Quote from: dweezil2 on 02 January, 2014, 04:46:50 PM
He certainly said that the scripts for the other two films were good to go

He did? This is news to me. As far as I knew all Alex had ever done was voice his hopes for what future films might include.

dweezil2

Quote from: Molch-R on 02 January, 2014, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 02 January, 2014, 04:46:50 PM
He certainly said that the scripts for the other two films were good to go

He did? This is news to me. As far as I knew all Alex had ever done was voice his hopes for what future films might include.

I'm pretty sure I didn't dream it Molch-R, but it has been a funny couple of years!   :)
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Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 02 January, 2014, 04:43:31 PM
Cursed Earth Mutie Judge/ OR Rico/ OR Experimental Judge gone Pete Tong.

Pete Tong MBE, please.

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I'm reasonably sure he said something about it being the film costume that gets progressively more fucked up, but beyond that I don't recall hearing or reading anything more from Alex about Death's Origins.

I think people just extrapolated from that (if he did say that), and it led to people doing this kind of concept.


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Quote from: dweezil2 on 02 January, 2014, 04:46:50 PM
He certainly said that the scripts for the other two films were good to go, although his involvement in making the sequels was questionable, due to various factors.

Since the 3 scripts were written as part of the process of trying to find out which is the best story to tell first as an intro to Judge Dredd, and not part of a planned sequence of films, I suspect -as he said so himself in the Q & A thread- that his intention was to re-write them with the final Peach Trees film in mind:

Quote from: Molch-R on 23 August, 2012, 06:42:15 PM
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It might have been the case that his Judge Death script was partly an adaptation of Judge Death Lives which features the citizens of an entire city-block being imprisoned behind an energy shield (in effect, a lock-down) and terrorised by the Dark Judges while Dredd & Anderson enter the block alone.

For the Peach Trees story he may have swapped-out the villains of his Dark Judges script and replaced them with Ma Ma and the 4 corrupt Judges so he maintained the single location story but didn't have the burden of explaining the Dark Judges. It's speculation but this might be partially the reason why it needs to be re-written.








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QuoteFor the Peach Trees story he may have swapped-out the villains of his Dark Judges script and replaced them with Ma Ma and the 4 corrupt Judges

The four Bad Judges...

Four Dark Judges...

Could be a coincidence, but yeah - it makes a lot of sense that they could have been a holdover from a previous, Dark Judges flavoured script.