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Deadpool compared to Dredd regarding censorship
« on: 14 February, 2016, 03:25:23 pm »
I've just seen Deadpool, great film by the way, very funny with over the top violence, I loved every minute of it, except for a burning rage inside my stomach, that increased with almost every scene.

I have one question, how the hell did Deadpool get a 15 certificate and Dredd receive an 18? Almost every scene in Deadpool had either sexual references, extreme and gory violence and nudity. The gore and violence was comparable to Dredd and in my opinion, even more extreme than Dredd, in fact it blew Dredd out of the water in all aspects that I would assume a censor would be taking into consideration when deciding what certificate to award a film. It just doesn't make sense that Dredd would get an 18 whilst Deadpool gets a 15 certificate. That for me was a huge reason why Dredd didn't make such an impact at the box office. When I looked around the cinema the majority of the audience looked under 18, which should have been Dredd's target audience, if they wanted a box office hit that is.

The only difference between the two films, that I can see, is that Deadpool used humour to lessen the impact of the violent and sexual scenes, other then that I can't see how Deadpool got away with a 15 certificate.

If Dredd was awarded an 18 certificate because of the man being thrown head first off a balcony and showing his brains splattered over the floor then taking that out to get a 15 certificate would not have made it any less of a film.

I Googled Deadpool and censors just now and there is a big debate about how it got away with a 15 rating. Apparently the censors asked them to remove quite a few scenes for it to get a 15 certificate, so maybe that's what they should have done when making Dredd. Overload the film with sex and violence and then when the censors get hold of it they get to take out a lot of violent scenes and when they are left with a film that is still action packed and "violent" they assume they have done enough to give it a lesser rating.

Anyway, I'm still angry. It just doesn't make sense.

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Re: Deadpool compared to Dredd regarding censorship
« Reply #1 on: 14 February, 2016, 03:35:43 pm »
It's a fair question.
I can only assume that with Deadpool the humour was somehow seen to soften the impact of the violence, whereas Dredd featured little of that in the form of levity.

A 15 may have improved Dredd's box office in the UK, but as for the US and R rating is an R rating regardless of whether it's a 15 or 18 over here, so it's debatable whether it would of made much impact to the American market, which seems to be the dominant factor in getting a sequel greenlit. 

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Re: Deadpool compared to Dredd regarding censorship
« Reply #2 on: 14 February, 2016, 03:43:37 pm »

Dredd - like Deadpool - was R-rated in the US so it had as much a chance to be a hit in the country where it mattered most.



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Re: Deadpool compared to Dredd regarding censorship
« Reply #3 on: 14 February, 2016, 03:47:06 pm »
I'm presume the far more agressive matketing campaign and the fact it's a Marvel movie had some influence on Dredd's success in the US.

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Re: Deadpool compared to Dredd regarding censorship
« Reply #4 on: 14 February, 2016, 03:50:11 pm »
I'm sure there's a Dreddpool gag in here somewhere, I just can't place it.

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Re: Deadpool compared to Dredd regarding censorship
« Reply #5 on: 14 February, 2016, 03:58:00 pm »
I'm presume the far more agressive matketing campaign and the fact it's a Marvel movie had some influence on Dredd's success in the US.

That accounts for some of it but more importantly it's also a unique, serendipitous blend of action, rom-com and superhero film that happens to deliver on its bawdy comedy in creative ways, so that gives it an easy crossover appeal.


Deadpool has more in common with TED than DREDD.










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Re: Deadpool compared to Dredd regarding censorship
« Reply #6 on: 14 February, 2016, 04:01:46 pm »
I'm presume the far more agressive matketing campaign and the fact it's a Marvel movie had some influence on Dredd's success in the US.

That accounts for some of it but more importantly it's also a unique, serendipitous blend of action, rom-com and superhero film that happens to deliver on its bawdy comedy in creative ways, so that gives it an easy crossover appeal.


Yep!
That about sums it!
And why I felt that Deadpool was more thing new snd not the gamechanger of the genre that over excited fans seem to credit it as.
Ho-hum!

Deadpool has more in common with TED than DREDD.

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Re: Deadpool compared to Dredd regarding censorship
« Reply #7 on: 14 February, 2016, 04:04:40 pm »
I'm presume the far more agressive matketing campaign and the fact it's a Marvel movie had some influence on Dredd's success in the US.

That accounts for some of it but more importantly it's also a unique, serendipitous blend of action, rom-com and superhero film that happens to deliver on its bawdy comedy in creative ways, so that gives it an easy crossover appeal.


Deadpool has more in common with TED than DREDD.

Oops!
Try that again!

Yep!
That about sums it!
And why I felt that Deadpool was nothing new and not the gamechanger of the genre that over excited fans seem to credit it as.
Ho-hum!

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Re: Deadpool compared to Dredd regarding censorship
« Reply #8 on: 14 February, 2016, 04:56:27 pm »
There could be a Tedpool joke as well, now that would be a movie I'd go and see!

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Re: Deadpool compared to Dredd regarding censorship
« Reply #9 on: 14 February, 2016, 05:35:36 pm »
There could be a Tedpool joke as well, now that would be a movie I'd go and see!

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Or even a film called Dredd-pool!

We might get a sequel that way!   ;)

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Re: Deadpool compared to Dredd regarding censorship
« Reply #10 on: 14 February, 2016, 07:07:51 pm »
And why I felt that Deadpool was nothing new and not the gamechanger of the genre that over excited fans seem to credit it as.


It's new in the sense that no one had done that combination of genres in a superhero film before - at least not with any degree of success.


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Re: Deadpool compared to Dredd regarding censorship
« Reply #11 on: 14 February, 2016, 09:12:30 pm »
And why I felt that Deadpool was nothing new and not the gamechanger of the genre that over excited fans seem to credit it as.


It's new in the sense that no one had done that combination of genres in a superhero film before - at least not with any degree of success.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzI-ZbcK_sw

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Re: Deadpool compared to Dredd regarding censorship
« Reply #12 on: 14 February, 2016, 11:37:55 pm »
And why I felt that Deadpool was nothing new and not the gamechanger of the genre that over excited fans seem to credit it as.


It's new in the sense that no one had done that combination of genres in a superhero film before - at least not with any degree of success.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzI-ZbcK_sw


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PKmHBFgIoX0

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Re: Deadpool compared to Dredd regarding censorship
« Reply #13 on: 15 February, 2016, 05:13:13 pm »
Or even a film called Dredd-pool!
Mashing up movie sources a little maybe even...?
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Re: Deadpool compared to Dredd regarding censorship
« Reply #14 on: 15 February, 2016, 05:29:27 pm »
I can get down with that!  ;)