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Re: Are there any really bad 2000ad strips?
« Reply #15 on: 18 March, 2017, 10:48:41 pm »
I don't think I've read any 2000AD material from Mark Millar or Garth Ennis that I would want to read again.

I loathe Millar's Dredd and RoboHunter as much as the next guy, but... Big Dave is pretty funny, his 'Long Distance Calls' is a favourite Future Shock of mine and I still have a soft spot for the nonsense of Purgatory. Ennis isntbreally comparable, he has plenty of decent Prog work including some solid Dredds... Plenty of weak stuff too, mind.

Fleisher on the other hand never wrote a single script I enjoyed. But even there, some of the art that was wasted on his strips stands on its own... Junker, for example, was gorgeous.

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Re: Are there any really bad 2000ad strips?
« Reply #16 on: 18 March, 2017, 10:54:06 pm »
Junker had at least some John Ridgeway art.

I'd find it hard to defend Mother Earth and Survivor the Mean Team spin off with the talking panther whose vocaliser managed to circumvent the Earthwide electronics dampening field. I did like how they blew up all of the Mean Team in a panel after weeks of them surviving various perilous situations.

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Re: Are there any really bad 2000ad strips?
« Reply #17 on: 19 March, 2017, 01:16:15 am »
Captain Klep.

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Re: Are there any really bad 2000ad strips?
« Reply #18 on: 19 March, 2017, 08:29:45 am »
I don't think anyone liked Bison.

There have been a few absolute stinkers over the years.

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Re: Are there any really bad 2000ad strips?
« Reply #19 on: 19 March, 2017, 08:41:54 am »
The stuff I enjoyed the least (including some Megazine stories) is:

Angel
Death Planet
Colony Earth
Valkyries
Space Girls
Wire heads
Time house
Revere
Time Flies
Soul Gun Warrior
Soul Sisters
Babe Race 2000
Non Wagner or Grant Robo Hunter
Bob Byrne's Twisted Tales
Wireheads
Calhab Justice
Leatherjack
Indigo Prime


Now I'm not saying they are bad, just that I don't really enjoy them.

And for anyone who has been following the review thread, I haven't put The Order in the list - it's not that I don't like it, just I find it hard to follow, but still think there is a good story underneath it which I have yet to uncover.


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Re: Are there any really bad 2000ad strips?
« Reply #20 on: 19 March, 2017, 09:15:29 am »
The stuff I enjoyed the least (including some Megazine stories) is:


See this is another wonderful example. My thoughts on each of those stories:

Angel - Yep a stinker
Death Planet - Another massive miss (the planet just ain't that deadly)
Colony Earth - Looked good but yike was it poor
Valkyries - Ouch that was terrible
Space Girls - This one was shockin' absolutely shockin'

So do we have agreement, it seems so, but...

Wire heads - Mmmmmrrrrhhh but terrible, certainly not great
Time house - An interesting attempt at something different and worth effort even if it ultimately failed
Revere - John Smith genius with glorious art - great stuff
Time Flies - The first one was kinda fun in a sub Hewligans' Haircut kinda way
Soul Gun Warrior - Brilliant, superb Shaky Kane art and fantastic story
Soul Sisters - Yep pretty poor
Babe Race 2000 - Shite Race 2000 more like
Non Wagner or Grant Robo Hunter - Millar stuff yes, Hogan and Rian stuff no, that stuff was GREAT
Bob Byrne's Twisted Tales - Generally fantastic
Calhab Justice - Not the best, not the worst
Leatherjack - One of the best things to have appeared in the Prog, more glorious John Smith with some wonderful Paul 'Under-rated' Marshal art
Indigo Prime - See above but the art wasn't by Paul Marshal but a host of other brilliant talents

See 2000ad's greatest strenght is its diversity and therefore generates a fantastic diversity of opinion.

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Re: Are there any really bad 2000ad strips?
« Reply #21 on: 19 March, 2017, 09:30:02 am »
Oh yeah one more I forgot

The Zaucer of Zilk.

I am sure loads of people really liked that one as well. It's by all time legend Brendan McCarthy, so what could there possibly be to not like?

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Re: Are there any really bad 2000ad strips?
« Reply #22 on: 19 March, 2017, 09:52:55 am »
The stuff I enjoyed the least (including some Megazine stories) is:

Angel
Death Planet
Colony Earth
Valkyries
Space Girls
Wire heads
Time house
Revere
Time Flies
Soul Gun Warrior
Soul Sisters
Babe Race 2000
Non Wagner or Grant Robo Hunter
Bob Byrne's Twisted Tales
Wireheads
Calhab Justice
Leatherjack
Indigo Prime


Now I'm not saying they are bad, just that I don't really enjoy them.

And for anyone who has been following the review thread, I haven't put The Order in the list - it's not that I don't like it, just I find it hard to follow, but still think there is a good story underneath it which I have yet to uncover.

I would add Trash and Dead Meat to that list.

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Re: Are there any really bad 2000ad strips?
« Reply #23 on: 19 March, 2017, 10:04:34 am »
The stuff I enjoyed the least (including some Megazine stories) is:



Bob Byrne's Twisted Tales - Generally fantastic


Love Bob's work but i've never read his 2000AD strips.

His Clamnuts website, and comics about growing up in Dublin in the 80s are absolutely fantastic.

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Re: Are there any really bad 2000ad strips?
« Reply #24 on: 19 March, 2017, 10:24:40 am »
I liked Dead Meat, nice story and artwork. I also liked Trash - shame it wasn't allowed to develop!

When I first saw Zaucer of Zilk advertised in the Prog I admit to thinking 'what the hell is THIS!' But I gave it a chance and found it to be a very good series.

Another shout out for Big Dave! Hilarious series - see also: Ulysses Sweet.

Finn was another favourite. I much prefer it to Slaine which, despite the outstanding artwork on the modern series, just seems to go on and on with no resolution in sight.

Indigo Prime is stunning. I can't recall a single story that I didn't enjoy.

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Re: Are there any really bad 2000ad strips?
« Reply #25 on: 19 March, 2017, 10:33:08 am »
How have we got to the second page of this without a Colin-baiting mention of SinDex?😜

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Re: Are there any really bad 2000ad strips?
« Reply #26 on: 19 March, 2017, 10:34:30 am »

Finn was another favourite. I much prefer it to Slaine which, despite the outstanding artwork on the modern series, just seems to go on and on with no resolution in sight.

I always liked Finn as well. I know it gets a bit of a kicking by some, but I always enjoyed it.

I used to consider it as a modern day Slaine and would go as far as actually considering Finn and Slaine to be the same character ( in my mind at least even if the script never said that).

As I understand it editorial canned it as it was "too similar to Slaine".

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Re: Are there any really bad 2000ad strips?
« Reply #27 on: 19 March, 2017, 10:45:08 am »
Just to prove how subjective this is;Im not a fan of Big Dave.
But I do like SinDex.

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Re: Are there any really bad 2000ad strips?
« Reply #28 on: 19 March, 2017, 10:58:25 am »
The stuff I enjoyed the least (including some Megazine stories) is:



Bob Byrne's Twisted Tales - Generally fantastic


Love Bob's work but i've never read his 2000AD strips.

His Clamnuts website, and comics about growing up in Dublin in the 80s are absolutely fantastic.

Everything Bob does is fantastic, he's a major talent. The only problem is that he just doesn't do enough comics.  A third outing for his fleg-loving monkey character would be very welcome.

Oh, and I liked Valkyries! Very pleased to see it get the floppy treatment (ooo-er) recently.
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Re: Are there any really bad 2000ad strips?
« Reply #29 on: 19 March, 2017, 11:22:22 am »
The stuff I enjoyed the least (including some Megazine stories) is:



Bob Byrne's Twisted Tales - Generally fantastic


Love Bob's work but i've never read his 2000AD strips.

His Clamnuts website, and comics about growing up in Dublin in the 80s are absolutely fantastic.

Everything Bob does is fantastic, he's a major talent. The only problem is that he just doesn't do enough comics.  A third outing for his fleg-loving monkey character would be very welcome.



Agreed.

Had a wee spy at his website this morning, and looks like we might have some new stuff in 2000AD soon.