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Minor 2000 AD stories

Started by maryanddavid, 04 November, 2015, 11:33:09 PM

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maryanddavid

While looking for information on a particular story without wading through a load of back issue I found this list on Wiki,

Quotehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_2000_AD_stories#Dinosty

There is a few on it that made me go, WTF (as those kids say)
Absalom
Cradlegrave
insurrection
Tyranny Rex
Zombo
Luke Kirby.
Ok, Maybe some of the above are not A list, but they are not far off it(Zombo, the art is pushing you there!)

And loads more that should be on the list, Where is AHAB, Death Planet, Colony Earth, A love Like Blood, etc.

And one made me sad, that there was never any more Sancho Panzer.

Thoughts? It goes to show the massive amounts of quality material that the house of Tharg has published over the years that gets glossed over a little.


Jim_Campbell

Absolom is continuing and racking up more pages most years, so I'd question that story's inclusion on the list...

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Hawkmumbler

Insurrection is a three part epic saga. Sure it's not THAT long but it's no Family either.

Colin YNWA

Its the term 'minor' that courses the problem for me. The idea that any of John Smith's work is 'minor' is just wrong, so very very wrong. That its often in shorter form and self contained doesn't not affect its significance.

Little point getting het up about such things... but I could see I might, even though you can understand what they are trying to do!

Arkwright99

It's just Wikipedia, which doesn't necessarily make it right or accurate and any specific strip's inclusion is more likely than not a subjective judgement on one or more editor's part. There is a rationale provided in the Talk page by the original(?) editor:
QuoteThinking behind this
The general plan is for List of 2000 AD stories to hold a basic list and this article will scoop up those stories which are not yet notable enough to warrant their own article and to act as a place to merge articles to as an alternative to their being deleted (as discussed on WP:WAF).

If you feel you can demonstrate the notability of an story then feel free to start a split discussion and we can take it form there. A good idea might be to expand the section here with material until it becomes solid enough to make a split pretty obvious as it saves time later. (Emperor (talk) 20:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC))
As ever with Wikipedia, if you think something's wrong or incorrect you can change it.
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sheridan

Quote from: demos99 on 05 November, 2015, 09:49:00 AM
As ever with Wikipedia, if you think something's wrong or incorrect you can change it.


Just what I was going to say!

The Adventurer

I think it's a fair assessment that anything that's not; Dredd, Strontium Dog, Slaine, and maybe ABC Warriors, and maybe Rogue Trooper would be 'minor' 2000 AD strips. Purely from a cultural significance and their longevity.

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Magnetica

Quote from: The Adventurer on 05 November, 2015, 04:12:32 PM
I think it's a fair assessment that anything that's not; Dredd, Strontium Dog, Slaine, and maybe ABC Warriors, and maybe Rogue Trooper would be 'minor' 2000 AD strips. Purely from a cultural significance and their longevity.

I think you have missed a few...how about Nemesis, Sinister Dexter and Nikolai Dante? Love 'em or hate 'em they are major stories.

Also:

If your criteria is cultural significance then what about Halo Jones?

If the criteria is longevity, then you have to include Savage. After all it appeared in Prog 1 and it still appears regularly to this day (and ok it used to be called Invasion, but it's the same thing).

sheridan

Quote from: Magnetica on 05 November, 2015, 09:43:05 PM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 05 November, 2015, 04:12:32 PM
I think it's a fair assessment that anything that's not; Dredd, Strontium Dog, Slaine, and maybe ABC Warriors, and maybe Rogue Trooper would be 'minor' 2000 AD strips. Purely from a cultural significance and their longevity.

If the criteria is longevity, then you have to include Savage. After all it appeared in Prog 1 and it still appears regularly to this day (and ok it used to be called Invasion, but it's the same thing).
Flesh would have a better claim to longevity (coz it kept its name!)

I would add Nemesis above ABC Warriors for cultural impact.  We all know Hammerstein and the rest, but outside of 2000AD I think Nem and Torque are more recognisable.

Hawkmumbler

What about series that developed modest page counts but where left dangling? Lobster Random for example.

sheridan

Quote from: Hawkmonger on 06 November, 2015, 08:15:18 AM
What about series that developed modest page counts but where left dangling? Lobster Random for example.

Or Dan Dare ;-)

Richard

Nemesis and Dante have their own articles already.

sheridan

Quote from: Richard on 28 February, 2016, 09:03:18 PM
Nemesis and Dante have their own articles already.
Which would reinforce that they're not minor series!

Richard

Which is why they aren't on the list of minor stories.